Fox Model B


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deercop
August 29, 2008, 10:26 PM
I have been offered what I think is a good deal from an in-law on a Fox Model B double barrel 12 gauge, with double triggers, case colored frame. It is supposedly an early 70's (1971 or 1972) production. I would rate it in about 98% condition, there were a couple scuffs on the buttpad, and a couple of, for lack of a better word, stain spots on the rib between the barrels. I did not note any bluing wear. I did not measure the barrels, but would guesstimate 26 or 28 inches.

My primary experience with shotguns has been with gov't spec 870's. However, something about this shotgun just "feels right".

Any idea on the current real world value of such a shotgun?

Any interesting or useful tidbits of information on the Fox Model B?

ETA: It is 12 gauge, 2 3/4" chambers. Also, I could not locate a serial number on it, which would indicate to me that it might be pre-GCA 1968.

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RetiredLawman
August 30, 2008, 03:07 PM
It has the same action parts as the 311. In fact, it is a gussied up 311. I'd say around $375-425.

It is a good, stout, though rather crudely made shotgun. It and the 311 are the last of the economy doubles made in the US. Parts should not be a problem as the 311 uses the same parts internally.

Dave McCracken
August 30, 2008, 03:14 PM
A working class double. Savage had bought the rights to the Fox name, and brought out the Model B to trade on the name. Mechanically it has nothing to do with the AH Fox patent guns.

However, it's a good working gun. Parts are out there if needed.

corncob
August 30, 2008, 08:28 PM
Not really pertinent, but...

My paternal grandfather's Fox Model B was sold (accidentally) by my mother's brother, to a stranger, about 4 months ago. I tried to track it down, to no avail. Even though it always shot to the right of the bead, and was heavy as lead, I would give a lot to have it back.

My father tells a story about my grandfather standing still in the corn crib at suppertime until the squirrels came out, shooting twice, reloading, and shooting twice again to get meat for supper.

"Working class double" is about right. They don't make a "working class double in this country any more.

deercop
August 30, 2008, 09:13 PM
corncob,

I hate to hear that. Often times a "family gun" is worth far more than "book value".

The Fox I'm probably going to get, is my father-in-law's. He's had it since the early/mid-70's, he thinks. He's talked about selling it before, but seems really fired up about it now. I would hate for it to leave "the family" after so long, plus he's offered me a really good price for it. I don't really "need" it, but ...................

Tom Held
August 31, 2008, 09:27 AM
I had a 20 gauge Model B once and sold it. It was hell on wood duck and teal during the early duck seasons. Dumb decision to get ride of it.

deercop
September 22, 2008, 11:50 PM
My wife had surgery today, so my in-laws came down. My father-in-law brought the Fox, which I bought. It has no serial number, has hand-cut checkering, and 28" barrels.

I hope to be able to get pics tomorrow.

Geno
September 22, 2008, 11:54 PM
Congratulations! You'll enjoy it. I have a 311 that I purchased here. Great SXS!

Doc2005

JohnBT
September 23, 2008, 08:13 AM
Congratulations, I think you'll like it. I talked my father into buying me a 12 ga. back in the mid-'60s and the thing was about as big as I was. I should have kept it and grown into it. Oh well, I hope it's making somebody happy.

John

Virginian
September 23, 2008, 09:14 AM
I had a 20 gauge back in the early 60s, but kept borrowing a friend's 12 gauge Model 311 for duck hunting. I think the Savage/Stevens doubles were an excellent line of very reliable and good working, if not fancy, shotguns.

deercop
September 23, 2008, 10:00 AM
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/Fox-left.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/Fox-side.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/Fox-engraving.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/Fox-markings.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/gunslinger902/Fox-stampings.jpg

Tom Held
September 23, 2008, 10:18 AM
Jaquas had a 16 ga with 28" barrels for sale last week on their website for $450. Pics looked good and price seemed right for the gun.

32 Magnum
September 23, 2008, 03:04 PM
Really nice looking shotgun!!! Congrats...doesn't look at all crudely made - looks like decent quality.

JohnBT
September 23, 2008, 04:23 PM
I don't think mine looked that good when it was new. :confused:

Okay, I'm old and it's been 40+ years, but that's still a good looking gun.

John

deercop
September 23, 2008, 04:31 PM
From doing a LOT of research online today, I think I've figured out how to "date" the Fox B. The circle with the number and letter, in front of the engraved ducks (bottom of receiver), is the "code". Supposedly starting in 1949, there was an "A" in that circle, 1950 is was "B", etc etc etc.

Specifically the letter, in this case "L", indicates 1960. Dang, 48 years old and had less than 2 boxes through it.

DaleCooper51
September 23, 2008, 05:33 PM
Thats a nice looking gun.

I hope you have a bunch of fun with it.

If you are going to shoot it a good deal, I would look into a nice recoil pad.

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