Appendix carry question
SomeDude
August 30, 2008, 08:27 PM
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scythefwd
August 30, 2008, 08:33 PM
I carry my appendix next to my stomach on the right side. :) Just kidding. What are you attempting to carry? Why wont the iwb work? I'm a little chubby, ok.. Im fat, so front carrying anything is very uncomfortable. Are there other locations you would consider such as ankle, hip, small of back, under the arm, etc.?
357wheelgunner
August 30, 2008, 08:40 PM
I don't know if you'd consider it "appendix" carry, but I pack my Sig P6 at 2:30 position with a Blade-Tech IWB. I'm not skinny and I'm not fat and it's comfortable for me.
It really depends on the gun, the holster, the belt you use, and you personally.
SomeDude
August 30, 2008, 08:56 PM
I carry a SR9. IWB doesn't work because although I'm 6'4" and 205# I have a 33 inch waist and with my pistol on my side it looks like I have a very large malignant tumor. For now my chest is larger than my stomach so when the pistol is up front my t-shirt covers it well. There is a small part of me that worries I may lose a testicle.
The Lone Haranguer
August 30, 2008, 09:45 PM
I will cop to not having tried OWB "appendix" carry. IMO the SR9 is a somewhat large gun for this. But I see no reason why a straight drop, vertical/neutral (no) cant holster that rides sufficiently high would not work. If it does not ride high enough the muzzle may poke you when you sit. Since you have seven inches on me in height, it might be less of a problem for you. ;) Try looking at something on the order of the Milt Sparks 55BN, and be sure your cover garment closes in the front and is long enough.
Kor
August 30, 2008, 10:29 PM
I have one, and only one, holster that works for OWB-appendix carry - a one-off custom job from Alessi, made for a S&W J-frame. I'm a 5'5"/185lb male, and this holster is raked with an approximate 30-degree muzzle-forward cant, allowing the muzzle to lie somewhat along the femoral crease between groin and upper thigh. My S&W 642 Centennial is small enough that it "hides in the shadow" of my spare tire quite nicely in this holster.
I might suggest you try looking for a similarly-canted holster made for "cross-draw" carry - at one time, Bianchi and Galco made "dual-position" holsters with slots cut to allow for both strong-side and cross-draw carry. Given how new the Ruger SR9 is to the market, you may well be forced to to special-order one from a custom maker.
Your "wedding tackle" has nothing to fear, PROVIDED YOU KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF OF THE TRIGGER WHILE DRAWING OR HOLSTERING. IF YOU CANNOT FOLLOW THAT RULE EVERY TIME WITHOUT FAIL, APPENDIX CARRY IS NOT FOR YOU.
GRB
August 30, 2008, 10:32 PM
What in Hades is appendix carry? You are kidding, aren't you?
SomeDude
August 30, 2008, 11:01 PM
What in Hades is appendix carry? You are kidding, aren't you?
Since I had my appendix taken out about 15 years ago I've always been a little lopsided. Carrying my pistol over where my appendix used to be will straighten me up. That's the theory anyway.
GRB
August 30, 2008, 11:04 PM
I would hate to carry my pistol over my appendix scar, if it ever went off, well let's jsut say I would sure miss something else.
Gator
August 31, 2008, 01:42 AM
What in Hades is appendix carry? You are kidding, aren't you?
No, he's not kidding. I prefer the appendix carry (http://images.google.com/images?q=appendix%20carry&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi), but with an IWB holster.
Iggy
August 31, 2008, 09:37 AM
Take a look at the cross draw holsters by Bell Charter Oak. There are several options besides the ones pictured below.
http://bellcharteroakholsters.com/copilotmb.JPG
They work for appendix draw too.
The Lone Haranguer
August 31, 2008, 11:17 AM
What in Hades is appendix carry?
In terms of holster "clock position," appendix carry is on the front of your body, approximately "1:00," and you draw with your right hand. It is quite concealable and comfortable when standing and walking, not so much when sitting or especially driving, where the lap belt goes across and over the gun. Also - particularly when seated - exercise strict trigger discipline so as not to shoot yourself in the genitals or femoral artery. :eek:
Since I had my appendix taken out about 15 years ago I've always been a little lopsided. Carrying my pistol over where my appendix used to be will straighten me up. That's the theory anyway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/sxlova07/misc/smiley-rofl.gif
Rexster
August 31, 2008, 12:17 PM
I don't understand where the amazement comes from; carrying weapons in the abdomen/thigh crease area has been happening for a very long time. If the weapon is drawn safely, the muzzle will be clear of the important bits well before the finger enters the trigger guard. This is also perhaps the most easily defensible position if a snatch attempt occurs.
The original post indicated that IWB was not going to work, so I must ask, why not? That would help us provide better answers. Forward of the hip, I find IWB to be best, but have carried quite small weapons outside the belt there, such as J-snubs in a now-discontinued forward-raked OWB rig by either Desantis, or Galco, that I gave to one of my rookies long ago, and an SP101 in a forward-raked OWB Haugen rig. Anything larger than a J or SP101 really needs to be inside the belt if forward of the hip, with my body type; my belly has been flat most of my life, and is still fairly flat.
I still carry mostly on the hip, because my duty pistol rides there, and I like to keep things consistent. By on the hip, I mean 0300 or 0900. I mostly carry forward of the hip when I tote a secondary weapon, or need to tuck a larger weapon temporarily somewhere while making a stop, and don't want to leave it unattended in a vehicle. I have carried 4" sixguns quite handily this way, short-term without a holster, and longer-term with a now-discontinued Eagle Industries rig that allows forward rake.
I find it more difficult to conceal autos forward of the hip, as either the rear of the slide, or the grip frame, will tend to print against the shirt. This is most true of certain popular modern autos, with the striker mechanism contained within the protruding rear portion of the slide.
spwenger
August 31, 2008, 01:03 PM
I might suggest you try looking for a similarly-canted holster made for "cross-draw" carry - at one time, Bianchi and Galco made "dual-position" holsters with slots cut to allow for both strong-side and cross-draw carry. Given how new the Ruger SR9 is to the market, you may well be forced to to special-order one from a custom maker.
If you point your index finger, making a fist with the rest of your hand, and slowly sweep your hand along your waist, you will notice that your finger is nearly vertical when it is around the hip joint, points forward if it is forward of the hip joint and points to the rear when it goes behind the hip joint. The farther you go from your hip joint, the greater the angle off the vertical. This should give you the impression that the angle or "rake" of the holster needs to be selected for the part of the waist where you will wear it.
Since front-crossdraw and appendix carry are popular with women, you may find some of the best offerings from someone like Chris Cunningham (http://www.womensholsters.com/holsters.html), who concentrates on holsters for women. Pocket Concealment Systems (http://pcsholsters.com/catalog_item_CRD.html) also offers a moderately raked crossdraw holster that might fits your needs, without breaking the bank.
The Lone Haranguer
August 31, 2008, 02:34 PM
How about something on the order of the Bulman TJS (http://www.bulmangunleather.com/tjs.html)?
His work is of fabulous quality, but his wait is very long, unfortunately.
The Bushmaster
August 31, 2008, 03:23 PM
I've been carrying at 1:00 (appendex)[Mod 19 2 1/2"] for a long time and just had another holster made 'cause my old one bit the dust. Other then having a visectomy I've never shot THEM yet.
mr.72
August 31, 2008, 04:25 PM
Other than the fact that I hated the clip, a DeSantis Insider works great for appendix carry and they are quite cheap. Don't plan on reholstering easily though. But for me, the design of the clip was a disaster.
If you wear it high, a Smartcarry works fine too, and I prefer it over the Insider. I would guess for a smaller pistol a belly band would also work.
Oohrah
September 1, 2008, 01:44 AM
Use an Uncle Mikes paddle Adjustable angle, Kydex. Cheap, com-
fortable, fast, and hides my Glock 27 well:scrutiny:
dairycreek
September 1, 2008, 01:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/dairycreek/HOLSTERPIC2.jpg
Ruger SP-101 and a Comp-tac 2'0 Clock Carry holster which translates into an "appendix carry" rig. It works exceedingly well for me and I recommend it highly.
SomeDude
September 1, 2008, 11:27 PM
Thanks for the input everyone. Thread complete.
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