Rossi 462 and Taurus 65


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novaDAK
August 31, 2008, 03:58 AM
I was thinking of checking out a Rossi 462 (stainless, 2") and Taurus 65 (stainless, 4").

Since I'm getting two carry permits in the next two months, I'm looking at getting a .357 snub. I really was liking the Ruger SP101 (my mother has one and its a great gun) but after shooting it a few times and not being able to shoot it with much accuracy, I discovered that since the grip was too small and my little finger isn't able to fit on the grip at all, when I was pulling the trigger the muzzle would rise, and when I release the trigger it would go back down...I don't think there's a way to avoid this happening other than changing to larger grips...something I don't want to go though again (I went though three grips before settling on Pachmayr Presentation grips for my 4" Smith.)

Anyhow I was looking at other snubs, and the Rossi 462 caught my eye. Price isn't a major factor. I liked the looks of it, and the grips have finger grooves for all four fingers (but not defined enough to not fit my large fingers like Hogues did). I've heard good and bad about these, but I like the idea of a 6-shot .357 in the size of a Colt Detetive Special, and uses the same speedloaders as my K-frame smith.

I already have a 4" Smith mod 64-5, .38spl. I absolutely love this gun. Its the one I trust enough (both the gun and my own ability to shoot it well under stress) to keep ready to go loaded in my bedroom at all times. While .38spl is well-suited for home defense, its not that great as a woods gun other than for 2-legged critter protection. Smith and Wesson discontinued the model 65 in 1999 apparently, and it looks like they are difficult to come by at a reasonable price anymore. So, I found Taurus's version, coincidently also called the 65, with a full underlug barrel. I've heard good reviews of this one, apparently they got the design right with one of their revolvers

Just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with either of these guns.

Thanks!

Forgot to add...I was also tossing around the idea of getting an SP101, maybe a 3" barrel, and putting Hogues on it (since they are longer grips that add a groove for the little finger) and then I would only need to get one gun instead of two...it would be small enough to CC but would still pack enough punch to serve as a woods gun...this is another option. :)

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Elvishead
August 31, 2008, 04:36 AM
Forgot to add...I was also tossing around the idea of getting an SP101, maybe a 3" barrel, and putting Hogues on it (since they are longer grips that add a groove for the little finger) and then I would only need to get one gun instead of two...it would be small enough to CC but would still pack enough punch to serve as a woods gun...this is another option.

That's what you should do. just knowing you have a Ruger should be very comforting.

You'll get used to it, and you can change grips. I have the Rossi, it seem nice but I wouldn't carry it. Maybe as a back, maybe!

novaDAK
August 31, 2008, 04:39 AM
Thanks for the input! It would probably be cheaper in the long run, only buying one Ruger instead of a snub and a 4" gun...now, to decide what variant of SP101 to get...

2-3/4", 3-1/16", DAO, DA/SA...

Just wondering about the Rossi and Taurus because it would mean I could use my existing speedloaders and a few holsters.

weregunner
August 31, 2008, 05:12 AM
Have just what the doctor ordered.

Here's the scoop on the Taurus revolver,snubbie and Rossi lines:
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7534.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7538.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7184.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7052.0

There's a lot of reading in there, but research is like that anyway.

I do own 5 Taurus and 1 Rossi revolver. Have had nothing but excellent service form them. 3 revolvers are over 20 years, have had thousands trouble free rounds through them, and are as accurate and durable as ever.

Do have some experience with the Ruger revolvers, but sold my one and only Ruger revolver for another Ruger product. They are excellent guns.

The choice is yours

Amazingly there are quite a few Taurus/Rossi owners who own Ruger products as well.

Whatever fills your niche and needs is the one to go with.

Thank you for your consideration

novaDAK
August 31, 2008, 05:19 AM
Thank you weregunner for the links! I have a maximum of 60 days before my first CCW permit should arrive in the mail anyhow, so I have plenty of time to think and consider all options before buying :)

papajohn
August 31, 2008, 01:58 PM
CDNN has the Smith Model 65's and 66's, used and in varying grades, for under $350. Mechanically they're all solid, just varying degrees of finish wear. You can choose between three and four-inch barrels, and fixed or adjustable sights. Next time I get a chunk of change to play with, it's going to Texas!

BTW, the guns are not listed on their website, but you can request a catalog... www.cdnninvestments.com

PJ

novaDAK
August 31, 2008, 03:58 PM
paajohn...that may be the best way to go actually...with a 3" model 65! :)

I'll have to keep that in mind if I don't see anything at the gun show in two weeks! :)

ArchAngelCD
September 1, 2008, 01:43 AM
novaDAK,
If you are thinking along the lines of buying only 1 revolver right now a used 3" S&W K frame isn't a bad idea like mentioned above.

Also, if you like the feel of the Ruger don't discount buying a 3" GP100 (http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=1715&return=Y). The GP100 is similar to the SP101 but it's larger which might help your grip problem. It also carries 6 rounds rather than the 5 rounds in a SP101.

I personally prefer a S&W revolver but since you said you liked your Mom's SP101 I wanted to make sure you were aware of the 3" GP100.

rollback88
September 1, 2008, 02:13 AM
I have an older Rossi 88 snub - it is my only non-S&W revolver. It will likely turn in to another 461 (sold the first one to fund another "had to have" gun before I got my CHL) to have the 6th shot and .357mag option.

Regardless of what it says on the side, any potential carry gun has to prove itself reliable (though I haven't had a revolver yet that wasn't). That's where I decided to not sink $500 into a gun that potentially could end up in a closet at the PD in the event it had to be used for self defense. Much easier to turn over a Rossi or Taurus than a S&W or Ruger.

That's just me.

--jcd

AnaxImperator
September 1, 2008, 02:48 AM
One of my most favorite aspects of the Rossi is the grip. It's by far the most comfortable finger-groove rubber grip I've felt.
Another is that the internal lock on them doesn't seem to be as problem-prone as the S&W locking system. At least I haven't found any verified incidents of a Rossi ILS causing one to jam, while I've found a bunch on the S&W's.
Integral Lock Induced Failures (ILIF) (http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/500103904/m/228102718/p/1)
The Rossi DA isn't the lightest or the smoothest I've encountered; it's not unservicable or unpleasant, and the SA is very nice.

I decided to not sink $500 into a gun that potentially could end up in a closet at the PD in the event it had to be used for self defense.

That in of itself is something I hadn't much considered in choosing a CC handgun, and considering that lends greater viability to choosing an inexpensive piece (like a Rossi or Taurus) for carry purposes. I'd still be upset about any of my firearms being locked up in the bowels of a PD's evidence room, likely never to be seen again.... whatever the legal outcome.

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