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Chris B
August 31, 2008, 03:10 AM
Found one at the gun show today. Guy said I could give him $140 and my Shooters arms 1911 .45 that I paid 350 for new 6 months ago. I might be able to get him down another $20 if I can find the original grips for the 1911 and mention to him that I have 2 extra 8 round Pro-Mags.

Hell probobly still have it tomorrow.

Taurus' website puts MSRP @ $519 for the exact one I'm looking at. He said his wholesale cost was $354. Should I make the deal?

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weregunner
August 31, 2008, 04:59 AM
Is this model 66 brand new or a used one? If not new the price is high. Granted gun sellers have to make a living, but sheesh.
Is the 66 blued or stainless steel?

Next question. Why trade the .45ACP pistol away if you like it? Granted I am a revolver aficianado and own any number of Taurus revolvers, like them, and can recommend the 66, but only if your going to want to transition to the revolver.

For pistol shooters only or those who shoot pistol a majority of the time can have troubles having to get used to the rolling double action trigger pull. Not that it cannot be done. It can. But there's a whole new training system and mindset that needs to be implemented over the lighter triggered single action pistol you have now.

Are you ready to make the change or do you have experience with revolvers already?

Have to ask as there is a lot to consider.

weregunner
August 31, 2008, 05:00 AM
Is this model 66 brand new or a used one? If not new the price is high. Granted gun sellers have to make a living, but sheesh.
Is the 66 blued or stainless steel?

Next question. Why trade the .45ACP pistol away if you like it? Granted I am a revolver aficianado and own any number of Taurus revolvers, like them, and can recommend the 66, but only if your going to want to transition to the revolver.

For pistol shooters only or those who shoot pistol a majority of the time can have troubles having to get used to the rolling double action trigger pull. Not that it cannot be done. It can. But there's a whole new training system and mindset that needs to be implemented over the lighter triggered single action pistol you have now.

Are you ready to make the change or do you have experience with revolvers already?

Have to ask as there is a lot to consider.

Mods,please delete this double post.

Quoheleth
August 31, 2008, 05:21 AM
I wouldn't do it...

And that's not a Taurus bash; to me, that's a steep trade: your gun plus another $150! Even-up, maybe...

Big difference between 1911's single-action trigger and DA revolver double action pull...if you're not used to it, you'll probably spend a LOT of time working on learning it.

If you shoot the 1911 even reasonably well, I would say stick w/what you have.

Q

smee781
August 31, 2008, 09:49 AM
That is a bad deal, I'd go somewhere else. Sounds like he is trying to take advantage of you.

Schmidlin
August 31, 2008, 10:43 AM
Yeah i paid 360 for my model 66 brand new. if its used 150 would be a decent price for it if checks out. But i wouldn't trade a .45acp and cash for it.

bad deal and like smee said he is looking to screw you.

Chris B
August 31, 2008, 01:42 PM
Is this model 66 brand new or a used one? If not new the price is high. Granted gun sellers have to make a living, but sheesh.
Is the 66 blued or stainless steel?

The 66 is new and it is stainless.

Why trade the .45ACP pistol away if you like it?

This particular pistol is not reliable enough to carry. It's much better since I got the Pro-Mags but my Glock 19 is much more reliable for me and I'm much more accurate with it. The Glock is my carry gun. I've wanted a .357 with a 3-6 inch bbl for quite a while but have not had the funds to buy one.

Big difference between 1911's single-action trigger and DA revolver double action pull...if you're not used to it, you'll probably spend a LOT of time working on learning it.

Like I said, my carry gun is a Glock 19 and I have much more trigger time on that than the .45. I know the 66 has a longer and stiffer trigger pull than the Glock but it is not nearly the same as the difference between the S/A 1911. Also, I have an H&R model 949 in .22lr so I can practice shooting a revolver double action all day until I'm tired of reloading. Transitioning to a new weapons system isn't that big of a problem for me.

Yeah i paid 360 for my model 66 brand new.

Mind if I ask where? I might like to get one from there.

The gun IS new and Taurus lists the MSRP @ $519.00. The guy said his wholesale price is $354 and I saw in the book he was referencing where he got that number so I believe him. Basically he said he wanted $400 for the gun but had to charge sales tax because he's a dealer and this gun is new and in his inventory. He offered $300 for the 1911 that cost me $350 6 months ago and I've put about 500 rounds through.

Is this really a ripoff?

Schmidlin
August 31, 2008, 01:51 PM
Clealands outdoor world swanton ohio.

I guess its completely up to you. If you dont use the 1911 might as well get something you would enjoy.

I walked out the door with my blued 66 2 boxes of ammo and a cleaning kit for 440, if that says anything.

mikebnem
August 31, 2008, 01:59 PM
Check out some dealer pricing.
BTW
I love my Taurus 608 wich is almost the same.

Stainz
August 31, 2008, 02:34 PM
A couple of summers back, a friend, aggravated because I wouldn't sell him my 6" 66 cheaply, bought a new 4" blued Taurus 66. He was happy with the 7-shots, but not the grips or trigger. I resprung it - Taurus sent him other grips - which he likes - the revolver broke-in to be a completely different animal. I don't like Tauruses (...or is it Tauri?), but his is - and thousands of mostly .38 Specials later remains - a decent revolver. He is a convert - and keeps it loaded with my favorite personal & home protection round - the Remington R38S12 .38 Sec +P 158gr LHPSWC.

While your trade doesn't sound too good to most, I have a different take. If you are aggravated with - or have lost faith in - a handgun, it is time to let it become someone else's challenge. Generally, that has been my advice in ridding one's collection of a Taurus, not acquiring a new one. I will admit that Taurus has made some neat revolvers over the years, that little 5-shot .45 ACP Tracker being one I wish I had tried - especially when it was on closeout...sigh!

I can't end my diatribe there. I am a Smith & Wesson guy... Infernal Lock and MIM parts - or not - I love 'em. See what kind of a deal you can get on a 620, the L-frame 7-shooter with a partial underlug. I know it'll be a lot more dear in cost, but my motto is simple. It's better to have a few really good and dependable revolvers than a bucket full of mediocre ones - you'll be happier and safer!

Stainz

Schmidlin
August 31, 2008, 02:51 PM
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108613098

that might help you

Rmart30
August 31, 2008, 04:28 PM
Id say thats a steep trade. Id put up thegun you dont like for sale and start looking for another revolver and get familier with the prices untill yours sells....

lee n. field
August 31, 2008, 07:06 PM
Found one at the gun show today. Guy said I could give him $140 and my Shooters arms 1911 .45 that I paid 350 for new 6 months ago. I might be able to get him down another $20 if I can find the original grips for the 1911 and mention to him that I have 2 extra 8 round Pro-Mags.


Never heard of Shooter's Arms. Hmmm. Philipino (http://www.shootersarms.com.ph/contacts.htm). I'm guessing Armscor equivalent.

Personally, unless that 1911 was a junker, I wouldn't make that trade.

MCgunner
August 31, 2008, 08:38 PM
I don't have a high opinion of cheap 1911s and I love my two Taurus 66s (older six shot ones), but that's very steep. I'd pass on the deal. Buy the gun outright if you want. However, what attracts me to used Taurus revolvers, especially the 66, is the quality and accuracy of the guns and the low resale value. I got my favorite 4" nickeled 66 for 197.50. It's the best deal I have ever made on a revolver, tight, very smooth action and trigger, and accurate in the extreme. It is considerably more accurate than my Security Six OR my M19 were and it has a beefier frame around the forcing cone than the K frame. It looked almost new. I couldn't believe it when I saw it and checked it out with a fine toothed comb looking for the catch, LOL.

My other gun is a 3" blued one, older hammer block design action. It was loose and I talked the guy down to 180 for it by showing him how loose at the crane it was. I recited some of the Taurus bash crap I read on this site, he came down from 200. LOL Turned out, someone but the crane screw (forward frame screw) in the wrong hole and took me a few minutes at home to fix it. I thought I was going to try out Taurus' lifetime warranty, but I didn't have to. It's tight, times perfect, is awesome accurate, and the 3" barrel carries a LOT easier than a 4". Makes a nice IWB carry.

Look around at older ones. You shouldn't have to spend much over 200-250 for one in like new condition. This is what really attracts me to used Taurus 66s, fantastic guns for cheap. I thank all you Smith and Wesson koolaid drinkers for that. :D

Stainz does have a point about your 1911, though. If you don't like it, might be time to get rid of it. I don't think it's a dollars up good deal, but then, if your cheap 1911 is like both of mine were, beats tossing it in the trash can. LOL I grew to hate 1911s with mine. I sold one at a gun show for cheap (an Auto Ordinance) and my AMT got ripped off and I collected insurance on it, more than it was worth to ME. I wound up getting a Ruger P90 with the money which is a fantastic firearm. I simply don't do 1911s anymore, learned my lessons with 'em. :barf:

brassdog
September 2, 2008, 11:11 AM
Walk away from the deal!
The dealer is in business to make a buck or more not to be your friend.
Cash plus a trade in just doesn't add up. I'm not bashing taurus, I own a 85 snub that is absolutely a smooth dream. Hoever there are better deals out there! Do your homework and try them out and look around. I prefer the older half lug 66's compared to the new ones. But that's just my opinion. :)
That 45 can be made reliable in time and can be converted to other calibers. Besides, even with the Glock 19 that 45 would still make a better SHTF gun.

Chris B
September 3, 2008, 03:31 AM
I didn't make the trade. Thanks everyone for talking some sense in to me; it surely wasn't a good deal for me. I still want a .357 revolver though.

Besides, even with the Glock 19 that 45 would still make a better SHTF gun.

When the SHTF I hope I have my 870 or an Ar-10 or an AK handy. Aside from that though, mind if I ask why you'd say that? The .45 won't swallow anything but FMJ and with the Glock I have the option of carrying 34 hollow points instead of 9 rounds of hardball.

BigBlock
September 3, 2008, 04:01 AM
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_50_494/products_id/31325

brassdog
September 3, 2008, 03:21 PM
I said that based on the fact that 45 ammo and parts can be found more readily than parts for the Glock 19.
I know this because I also own a Glock 19 and while it is dead nuts reliable I always going to make sure that I have a back-up gun.
For me, I have 2 back-up guns. A Taurus 85 2" snub in 38 special and a FN Hi Power in 9mm that I have enough spare parts with it to build 2 more High Powers. That took alot scrounging around to find.;)

You said you can only use FMJ in your 45. That's not too unsual since the 1911 was designed to do so. What brand is it again?

Chris B
September 4, 2008, 11:08 PM
You said you can only use FMJ in your 45. That's not too unsual since the 1911 was designed to do so. What brand is it again?

The box reads Shooters Arm's. The pistol simply has SAM as the prefix to the serial #.

New User
September 6, 2008, 11:22 PM
I paid $350 for a SS 4" Model 65 Taurus at the beginning of turkey season this year. That was the OTD price including a box of Independence ammo. I would keep your 1911 and walk away.

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