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Rubber_Duck
September 1, 2008, 03:46 AM
What's that on his rifle? Is it used for aiming around corners?

BTW, these guys are Belgian military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DSCF0710.JPG

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P.S.- No idea why a smiley showed up in the link.

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Kind of Blued
September 1, 2008, 03:54 AM
I have no idea but it looks absolutely necessary. :neener:

exar
September 1, 2008, 03:58 AM
Hmmm....looks like he activates it with a pressure pad. I see a laser, maybe IR optics. It does look tied to his head gear. I'm guessing some kind of sight that lets him see what his rifle is pointed at via the eye piece?

dogmush
September 1, 2008, 04:06 AM
Its a laser/IR iluminator. Probably the Belgan version of a PEQ-2A.

The eye-piece is a AN/PVS-14 Night Vision optic. It's not tied to the weapon, what looks like a cord is the dummy string that keeps you from losing the daylight cap. It's also the most annoying thing on the whole system. I useally wrap mine around the mount and tape it there. Hanging like that it always gets caught on something.

Rubber_Duck
September 2, 2008, 01:41 AM
Hmm interesting. I Any reason why he would have a NV device mounted in broad daylight?

Ian
September 2, 2008, 01:59 AM
Since it is an aiming device, it would probably be a good idea to zero it and leave it alone. Plenty of photos of US servicemen in Iraq with IR lasers mounted in the daylight.

As for why the guy is wearing the NV monocular as well, who knows. He might be testing the laser; you can use the monocular with the lens cover in bright light and still see an IR laser beam.

matt87
September 2, 2008, 08:16 AM
The rifle is a Fabrique National Carbine (FNC); select-fire, gas-operated, 5.56x45mm NATO, 30-round mag.

COMPNOR
September 2, 2008, 09:37 AM
I've seen plenty of people with their PAQ-4's attached, daylight or not. And as Ian said, as long as you have the lens cover on you can use NVGs no problem. I personally find it pretty neat looking through them during the day.

dogmush
September 2, 2008, 10:26 AM
Yeah, He's probably zeroing the laser. It's a lot easier to do it during the day, when you can flip the NODs up and see.

The lens cover has a little hole in it to act as a daylight filter.

hardwarehacker
September 2, 2008, 10:44 AM
I've seen a picture of something the US was experimenting with, and this could be someone else's version.

A video camera mounted on the rifle with a viewer on the soldier's eye.
Eliminates the need to shoulder the rifle at all since he is effectively looking at the view from the top of the gun all the time.

And yes, it would let him shoot around corners by simply poking his rifle past the end of a wall.

COMPNOR
September 2, 2008, 10:47 AM
Yes, that would be the Land Warrior/Future Warrior stuff.

dogmush
September 2, 2008, 11:16 AM
The Land Warrior is still a lot more bulky then that.

I promise, it's a AN/PVS-14 and a IR laser. I'm signed for one of those NOD's right now.

NeoSpud
September 2, 2008, 11:51 AM
dogmush is right, thats not the Land Warrior.

On the rifle, it looks like a PEQ of some sort. I don't know much about them, but from googling around it seems to be a PEQ-IV, the only pictures of which I could find were airsoft. Still, it matches this picture (http://www.airsoft-world.biz/acatalog/G&PlaserPEQ_IV.jpg) perfectly.

I'm still looking to find what monocular that guy is using; I'm not fully convinced yet that it's the AN/PVS-14, due to the round knob at the bottom. I'll keep looking, and edit this entry accordingly.

Rob62
September 2, 2008, 12:07 PM
In laymans terms it is a Laser Target Designator. The Soldier in the front is testing it with his night vision monocular to make sure it works. The laser beam can only been seen through the (a) night vision device (NVD). In this case with it being daylight the cap has to be in place, with a small hole or aperature in it, or the entire picture will wash out.

Some generic info about these devices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PEQ-2

or try

http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/Insight%20Technology%20Incorporated%20AN-PEQ-2A%20Infrared%20Target%20Pointer-Illuminator-Aiming%20Laser.pdf

FWIW - what apears to be wires coming off of his NVD is actually a Dummy Cord. Keeping the lens cover from being lost.

Rob

Dravur
September 2, 2008, 12:34 PM
awwww Come on. Don'tcha know a BORG when you see one? He was assimilated.

Chuck Spears
September 2, 2008, 12:41 PM
P.S.- No idea why a smiley showed up in the link.

Bc there is a ":" and then a "D" in the url. Put them together and vBulletin code shows it as a ":D".

nalioth
September 2, 2008, 01:01 PM
P.S.- No idea why a smiley showed up in the link.
Bc there is a ":" and then a "D" in the url. Put them together and vBulletin code shows it as a "".
To get rid of that, just edit your post and check the box at the bottom labeled "Disable smileys in text".

jobu07
September 2, 2008, 03:13 PM
I'm still looking to find what monocular that guy is using; I'm not fully convinced yet that it's the AN/PVS-14, due to the round knob at the bottom. I'll keep looking, and edit this entry accordingly.

The knob on the bottom is the thumbscrew for the J-arm or swing-arm. That is the piece that you use to either move the 14's from your left eye to right eye. It also serves as the mounting device to go from the monocular to the rino mount - or - in this case to the "skull crusher" headmount (don't remember the real name for this mount, we just refer to them as skull crushers).

bthest86
September 2, 2008, 03:35 PM
The rifle is an FN FNC if anyone cares.

Edit: Well, Matt87 got it.

dogmush
September 3, 2008, 02:18 AM
The knob on the bottom is the thumbscrew for the J-arm or swing-arm. That is the piece that you use to either move the 14's from your left eye to right eye.

Yep. It probably looks a little wierd because he's wearing it over the wrong eye. It's supposed to go over you non-firing eye, so you can still use the sights if needed. That's actually how I wear mine except I use a Rhino mount. (I'm a lefty) Over the left eye that knob dissapears into the outline of the scope.

littlmak
September 3, 2008, 02:25 AM
Am I seeing this right? looks like the lense cap is still on

dogmush
September 3, 2008, 03:26 AM
Yes, it is. There's a little hole in the center of the cap to act as a daylight filter.

v3r71g0
September 3, 2008, 03:39 AM
A Jelly Doughnut.

jobu07
September 3, 2008, 07:48 AM
Yep. It probably looks a little wierd because he's wearing it over the wrong eye. It's supposed to go over you non-firing eye, so you can still use the sights if needed. That's actually how I wear mine except I use a Rhino mount. (I'm a lefty) Over the left eye that knob dissapears into the outline of the scope.

I've heard it's user dependent. But I was trained to wear mine over the left (non-firing) eye also. Makes more sense - if some sort of bright light were to flash at night you can still employ the optic on the weapon with your dominant eye.

M203Sniper
September 4, 2008, 01:36 AM
To quote a wise serviceman;
"The munitions we use today are 100% reliable, they are guaranteed to always hit the ground."

To which I add a laser which makes anything more tacticool, less reliable and more prone to operator error.

:)

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