.327 Magnum


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EMT40SW
September 1, 2008, 01:14 PM
Any on own one? How do you like it?

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sturgeon
September 1, 2008, 10:06 PM
I just bought one last week. Only had the chance to shoot it once at the range so far, and only 50 rounds, just haven't had the time.
But so far I love it, I think I will be a fan of this gun and round combo.

461
September 2, 2008, 12:21 AM
I love it!!! I'm like Sturgeon, I only have one box through it but I'm very impressed. This round kicks butt over the .32H&R and I really like the H&R. I want this one to succeed, so go buy one. :D

The_Antibubba
September 2, 2008, 05:21 AM
Will it also shoot 32 H&R Mag, or is it a different bullet entirely?

71Commander
September 2, 2008, 06:58 AM
What's the ballistics on this round?

I have a S&W 431 in 32 H&R. I reload and can get my 100 grainers up to 1400 fps. That ain't nothing to sneeze at.:uhoh:

Drgong
September 2, 2008, 08:42 AM
The balistics on this round are nice - it can shoot the 32 H&R and S&W longs. I am taking a strong look at a SP101 in .327 as a carry gun.

RichardInFlorida
September 2, 2008, 09:33 AM
Speer lists the 115 gr Gold Dot moving at 1380 fps from a 4" barrel. Not bad at all. Especially when you consider they list their hottest 9mm at 1300 fps from a 4" barrel.

--Richard

461
September 2, 2008, 03:03 PM
I've seen data with 100gr bullets running over 1700fps. :what: You can get the little 60grainers up over 2000, and this is from handgun barrels, just imagine the bump a rifle barrel will give.

Yes, the .327 will also shoot the .32 shorts, longs, and .32 H&R's, also you can shoot .32acp through them as it's a semi rimmed round. Talk about versatility. I really like it a lot.

ice monkey
September 2, 2008, 09:35 PM
Hey 461 is that true? You can shoot a .32acp through a .327 revolver? Have you or anyone for that matter tried that? That would be pretty cool.

peyton
September 2, 2008, 11:58 PM
I shoot 32 acp out of my 631, the target gets a hole, I get a smile!! I think it depends on the cylinder, my 431 cylinder lets the cartridge slide in to far. The firing pin does not strike the primer for it to fire.

FLA2760
September 3, 2008, 12:07 AM
I will consider one when a J frame Smith .327 is available.

Dgreno
September 3, 2008, 12:36 AM
Can someone post pics of the .327 next to a .357 please?

RichardInFlorida
September 3, 2008, 01:12 AM
I will consider one when a J frame Smith .327 is available.

I agree. I don't much care for the SP101 for my needs, but a 6-shot 642 chambered in .327 Mag would put more of my money in the hands of S&W.

Josh Aston
September 3, 2008, 03:07 AM
I want a 5 shot .327. That would be too cool.

Kleanbore
September 3, 2008, 10:36 AM
There seems to be a lot of sentiment in favor of a six-shot J-frame .327.

There are two questions I haven't seen addressed. One is whether the cylinder wall thickness would be adequate for the pressure. I don't know, but I'm skeptical. The other is how the cartridge would perform in a 1 7/8 inch barrel, both from the standpoint of ballistics and in terms of muzzle blast. We know it's impressive with a 3 1/2 inch barrel, but has anyone cut one down?

In my view, the Ruger 101 is a little too bulky for concealed carry, but it's still one fine gun.

don95sml
September 3, 2008, 04:58 PM
Kleanbore said:
There seems to be a lot of sentiment in favor of a six-shot J-frame .327.
I think a lot of that "sentiment" is a feeling that this will never be a successful cartridge until S&W makes a revolver (ANY frame or barrel length) for it.

JCMAG
September 3, 2008, 07:23 PM
A model 15 in .327 mag? You bet your socks would be rocked.

I, too, second the notion for a picture of the .327 next to the .357 (or .38 spl).

telomerase
September 3, 2008, 07:42 PM
Is the Single-Six available in .327?

gripper
September 3, 2008, 07:54 PM
I'd like either a GP100 with a 5 inch barrel in the caliber ;or an L frame.Either one could get the 8 shot cylinder( or more ??) with a bit of factory tinkering( sort of like the V8 Performance Center 627's).
Hell; I even like th eSP101 and I am NOT someone who ordinarily leans towards snubbies.Go figure....

Stainz
September 3, 2008, 08:08 PM
Let's say you have a bunch of 3.1" .32 H&RM 6-shooters, complete and in parts, collecting dust after you dropped the .32 H&RMs from your lineup. Hmmm, why not ream out the chambers another .125" or so - the cylinder was lengthened years ago to the 'X' models so they could take >125gr .357Ms. Work a deal with an ammo maker to produce a stout/higher pressure round - and, voila, you have the .327 Magnum.

I recently sold my 4" SP101 and 4.6" BHG SSM, both in .32 H&RM - but not so I could buy a 3" .327M. I did it because, even at the lower pressures of the .32 H&RM, especially my wimpy plinkers, the brass was getting worked. My massive sampling of two Ruger .32 H&RM chambered revolvers revealed that they were both reamed at the limit of the Chamber ID - .337+". Commercial ammo - and my homebrews produced with Dillon dies - were .334" OD. The ammo dropped in easily, the swelled cases were hard to extract. The fun wasn't there - I had actually had enough of manufacturing slop. I sold almost all of my Rugers this summer. When S&W offers a .327 Magnum - I'll look it over again. They dropped the .32 H&RM, most recently their 431 & 432PDs, like Ruger - due to poor sales. I guess my interest in the .32 waned... .38s are no more expensive - and a lot easier to find, both in ammo and reloading components. Good luck to the .327 Magnum, however - I do wish it well.

Stainz

PS You .327 Magnum SP101 owners - how difficult are the spent cases to extract? They should be easier than a .38 Special... check the belled OD!

ice monkey
September 3, 2008, 08:36 PM
If you’re still looking for a photo of the .327 vs. the .357, I found this photo here:
http://www.ammo-one.com/327Federal.html (still can't do the photo thing lol - link is better anyhow)
http://www.ammo-one.com/327Federal.html

I have to tell you though – the other day when I was at the local gun store, I handled both the .327 and the .357 together. The photo doesn’t seem to do the size difference justice. In my hand the .327 seemed much smaller than the .357, and yet in the photo … well as you can see there doesn’t seem like there is that much difference at all.

Plus “ammo-one” is a bit on the pricy side – my guy was considerably cheaper. :)

sturgeon
September 3, 2008, 09:40 PM
Stainz
Like I posted before, I have only put 50 rounds through it so far, but the cases came out very easy. Did not measure them before and after, I'll do that next time I make it to the range.

Loyalist Dave
September 3, 2008, 10:19 PM
I saw one today at the gunshop, and looked at the ammo. Looks like a very neat little package in the SP101, and I am seriously thinking of getting one.

IF..., the .32-20 is being kept alive in cowboy shooting, why not a SAA style revolver in .327 Federal, AND...., a nice lever action rifle to go with it??? It'd be nice in an H&R Handi-Rifle too (imho).

I wonder if this might also become popular for cops in those countries where they only look at caliber for handguns, such as Portugal and India, and the idea of the "magnum" isn't well known. (After all one wouldn't want to "hurt" a drug dealer shooting at you as you try make an arrest in the mean streets of Lisbon or New Delhi.) I met a cop from Lisbon who said he carried a S&W Modell 16 as it looked intimidating, and when he used it in some of those tiny streets over there, the sound alone often made the badguy stop shooting and give up.

A 3" SP101 might not be as large and heavy as a S&W 16, but I bet a .327 Federal makes an even bigger bang, lights up a dark alley, and does the job much better than the .32 auto often found in those countries.

Just some thoughts...,

LD

461
September 5, 2008, 09:59 PM
.32acp will shoot fine out of any .32Long, H&R and .327 I've had, the ACP has a slight rim on it so it'll headspace from the rim. The only issue I've had is that the rim is pretty slight so that it'll get hung up in the extractor star so it's a plinking only proposition unless you have a single action.

I've had no issues whatsoever with sticky extraction in my .327 SP-101 but mine is a custom and not a factory Ruger. I've also never had any problem with any Rugers in .32H&R, overloading anything will cause sticky extraction and is a good way to tell when you're pushing things too far.

I'm not sure a J frame would work as a 6 shot in .327, there isn't much meat between those chambers in a .32 J frame. I think I'd rather see it in a 5 shot to give you some added strength with more power than a .38 and it'd be more controllable than a .357.

I agree though, S&W needs to step up to this round to make it a success.


Added; I'm wanting a Single-Six and a Marlin levergun more than anything else right now.

Stainz
September 6, 2008, 08:44 AM
My local shop just got two new .327 SP101s in a row with improperly reamed chambers. They are awaiting return pickup on the second one now.

As to brass swelling... it occurred only in the first third of the length, as you'd expect in any fired case. Brass is quite soft - it must be resized before reloading. The oversized chambers allowed excessive bulging, making extraction difficult. No primer indications of pressure were noted - and I use Fed & Win primers.

I will stay with a tried and proven 5-shot .38 Special +P, my 642, as a CCW. The Remi R38S12 158gr LHPSWC +P is a known stopper. Of course, I did just recently divest myself of my .32 H&RM collection - including revolvers, dies, & reloading components. They were 'cute' and 'fun', but a .38 is more so - and easier to find whether in a launch platform, commercial ammo, or homebrew components - and generally, at no more expense. I would be shocked to see S&W offer it any time soon... if ever.

Stainz

robsc
September 6, 2008, 08:38 PM
The 32-20 Western or .32 C.F.W. is a longer cartridge. It is a completely different caliber. Don`t confuse it with the .327magnum .32 H&R magnum .32long / .32 special .32short .32acp cartridges.

Stainz
September 7, 2008, 01:17 AM
I've bought and loaded and fired thousands of .32-20 bullets - 115gr LRNFP - .312" - in .32 H&RM cases. Fun plinker at 800 fps.

Additionally, I have done horrible things to several hundred brand new .32-20 cases - take .010" off the rim thickness, .024" off the rim OD, and size them in a carbide M1 Carbine sizer, before loading 100gr DEWC (.312") over a small amount of powder for my 1895 Nagants. Fun... anal, but fun. The cases fall out of the Nagant chambers. Nothing at all to do with a .327 Magnum... I just can't sleep!

Stainz

461
September 7, 2008, 01:47 AM
The great thing the .327 Mag achieves is 32/20 performance in a straight walled case. Those .32/20 cases are fragile.

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