Hoppe's Elite is not M-Pro7


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GVMan
September 1, 2008, 03:11 PM
I have read many times that because Hoppe's Elite and M-Pro7 are made by Pantheon Chemical that they are therefore probably the same. I thought I'd ask Pantheon myself. Here is their response:

Dear (Me),

Although Hoppe's Elite and M-Pro 7 are both manufactured by Pantheon Chemical, they are different products. The M-Pro 7 line is geared towards military and LE style shooters who require additional lubricating and corrosion protection properties to maintain their weapons. Typically, they clean their weapons less often and their weapons are usually exposed to more dirt, dust, etc. The products are both non-toxic and non-hazardous but are formulated differently. Both are great products and you won't be disappointed with either one. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Thank you!

Amy Rosales
Manager, Business Development
M-Pro 7 Weapon Care Products

I must admit though that it does sound a bit like "6 of one, half dozen of the other".

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Ash
September 1, 2008, 06:22 PM
I would doubt they would say they are the same thing even if they were.

Ash

langenc
September 1, 2008, 09:59 PM
Do they have samples?

Diggers
September 2, 2008, 04:22 AM
I must admit though that it does sound a bit like "6 of one, half dozen of the other".

YEP! Sure does.

Didn't know hoppe's elite was non-toxic / non-hazardous (Hey isn't that another "6 of one, half dozen of the other" ??)

That is why I got M-pro7. Though I dont know that they are talking about when they say additional lube.....M-pro7 takes everything off.

The best advice I got about that product was to where gloves when you use it or it will suck all the oils out of your skin. Its true too.

I oil my gun up good after I clean it.

Might have to try the hoppes E just to see what it does.

GVMan
September 2, 2008, 07:00 AM
I started looking into this after seeing a web site that offered Hoppe"s Field Cleaner. They claimed it was a CLP type product. They were out of it. I couldn't find it anywhere including on the Hoppes.com site. So I checked Mpro7 after hearing it was the same.

Mpro7 does have a CLP product. I think I'll try it.

Frank Ettin
September 2, 2008, 11:51 AM
I've been using MPro7 products for years, including their CLP. I've been pleased.

Ramius
September 3, 2008, 07:24 PM
I liked M-Pro enough to order a gallon of the stuff from Midway USA, despite the expense. ($70!)

One property that really makes it worth the extra expense to me is the lack of nasty vapors- having asthma, using strong ammonia products or even petrol based cleaners can really be a problem for me.

Although I usually use gloves, when I forget to do so I have not had any problems with M-Pro on my skin. Also a good thing.

Finally, the lack of smell I think could be a real advantage for hunting rifles.

Back to the original question, I've used both M-Pro and Hoppes Elite, and cannot tell any difference in usage, however, it's very possible the M-Pro has a bit of extra cleaner, oil, or something else. Also possible it doesn't. In use, I couldn't tell the difference.

And yes, you need to lube it good after cleaning to avoid problems. But I do that anyway.

Good stuff.

jim2100
June 2, 2010, 02:06 PM
I recently called the Ruger service department about cleaning solvents. The man I spoke with said that they use M Pro 7 on everything, and that it is so safe you could brush your teeth with it. I too have COPD and cannot be around chemicals. I have read a lot about Hoppes Elite, and hear that it is the same as M pro 7.
So will continue using them.

Jim

jim2100
June 28, 2010, 09:25 PM
that it is so safe you could brush your teeth with it
Obviously he was joking. But it is safe and no toxic fumes.

Jim

UKShooter
June 29, 2010, 05:14 AM
I have a little 'boxed set' of M7-pro products. Its good stuff. It has the main cleaning fluid in a spray bottle, a solution for removing copper buildups and some M7 brand lubricating oil.

It also came with patches, copper brushes, a 'toothbrush' and some other stuff. They seems to make very good products.

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