how many have an 1861 navy?


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black_powder_Rob
September 1, 2008, 05:25 PM
Just trying to see how many people have an 1861 navy. If so, how do you like it, I have read they were the best shooters of the cap n ball revs.

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Tomahawk674
September 1, 2008, 05:49 PM
I bought my uberti '61 early this summer, and love everything about it. It's really accurate, but not so much in my hands...

pohill
September 1, 2008, 05:51 PM
1861 .36 Navy Signature Series. Shoots as good as it looks.
http://i36.tinypic.com/25p3705.jpg

historynut
September 1, 2008, 06:47 PM
I too have a Signature Series '61. Love it. For me, it's got perfect balance and it and shoots great. Looks good as well.

mykeal
September 1, 2008, 06:59 PM
A fine gun, but by no means 'the best shooter', in my opinion.

Tommygunn
September 1, 2008, 07:27 PM
I have had a Uberti 1861 for years. It is a very good shooter.
I don't know why the 1861 would necessarily be a better shooter than other Colts; it seems to me that they have as much potential for varying gun to gun as any other collection of guns might.
But I do like mine and find it to be a quite attractive revolver.
I believe a lot of historians and Colt afficionados also feel the 1861 was a particularly nice gun.

6Gun4Fun
September 1, 2008, 08:02 PM
I just got my Uberti '61. Haven't taken it out for a trial run yet, but it's a beauty! Nice and crisp,very light trigger pull.

mec
September 1, 2008, 08:25 PM
they're all different of course but mine is the only percussion revolver I have that hits exactly to the sights at 25 yards. All I did was widen the hammer notch a little for visibility. This example's "issues"(all replicas seem to have issues ) are that the barrel catch would walk out of the under-barrel dovetail and the little pin that holds the catch in the loading lever would also walk out. a modest application of J&B weld took care of these things
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=84023&stc=1&d=1220310986

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=47080&stc=1&d=1162126873

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=37793&d=1143741439
75 yards

6Gun4Fun
September 1, 2008, 09:05 PM
I don't think anything will out perform either of my Old Army's. I set the bar high by making the Ruger my first BP revolver some 12 years ago. Looking back, I'd have to say I wish I had bought more of them!

scrat
September 1, 2008, 09:20 PM
Nope i have an 1860 Army though

pohill
September 1, 2008, 09:31 PM
I have a Ruger Old Army. In my opinion, it's the best black powder gun made, as far as quality, dependability, accuracy (and good looking, too), but there's something about a Colt. As far as the 1861 .36 - it's a work of art that you can shoot. Balance, feel, heft, pointability...it has it all.

6Gun4Fun
September 1, 2008, 09:43 PM
Here's a photo of my ROA and my 1861 Navy.

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/Rusty43609/ROA1861.jpg

PRM
September 1, 2008, 09:45 PM
I've looked at them for years - but, I have two 1851s, 2nd Generation Colts. Just not enough difference to justify the cost. My Navies are great, reliable, accurate, and just plain fun. Still, I carry and shoot my pocket models (2nd Gen. Colts, 62 Pocket Police and Pocket Navy) more than the larger guns. That is just a personal preference. The 61 Navy is a fine gun. Their are a lot of folks shooting them, and most are more than just satisfied with their choice.

6Gun4Fun
September 1, 2008, 09:58 PM
I was thinking of carrying my '49 from time to time, it's a great in the waist belt size. Other wise I carry my M&P9.

Tomahawk674
September 1, 2008, 09:58 PM
It's all about the looks, and the '61 has them ;)

The thing is, owning BP guns is like those kid toy commercials: "COLLECT THEM ALL!!"

It's just a matter of which on you get first, then the next one, etc...

scrat
September 1, 2008, 09:59 PM
I agree with PRM. My 1851 can outshoot my 1860 any day of the week.

Riot Earp
September 1, 2008, 10:03 PM
I have a Uberti 1861 Civilian, the version with the brass grip frame that is a little harder to find. Not sure why this is, as there were only about 100 Colt 1861s made with shoulder stock cutouts; the vast majority were Civilian models with brass backstraps, brass trigger guards, and no cutouts. The Italians had me fooled until I did some research. The '61 is a beautiful weapon, though it seems a tad more barrel heavy than an 1851.

6Gun4Fun
September 1, 2008, 10:08 PM
My pocket pistols. With one I can take 18 friends with me!

http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp65/Rusty43609/pocketpistols.jpg

saaman
September 1, 2008, 10:14 PM
Just ordered one today from Midway, so I own one but haven't received it yet. Have always liked the look of the '61, and MEC always amazes me with the small targets he hits with his.

scrat
September 1, 2008, 10:19 PM
ya its amazing what you can do with a hole puncher.


hahaha

jk

Smokin_Gun
September 2, 2008, 03:32 AM
It is a beautiful Rev the 1861 Colt ... but I'm more of a .44 man and in an 1858 Remington. I really like the ROA(Tina) I have but I do have to call it a 20th Century Revolver not from the 1800's.

SG

madcratebuilder
September 2, 2008, 10:55 AM
Another 1861 .36 Navy Signature Series here. I love it, only draw back is the rear sight, I had to open it up a bit to get a good sight picture. I also have the Colt Walker so I'm getting used to the hammer sights.

PRM
September 2, 2008, 11:17 AM
I have said this before, I bought my first C&B Colt the day I turned 21 - that was almost 33 years ago. Back then money was tight and I liked to shoot. Over the years my appreciation for these guns has grown. You would get flamed for saying this on a lot of forums, but there are times when I carry my pocket models, just because I like them. Got nothing against the modern guns, and I do own several. But my first love of guns has always been the Colts black powders. A couple of years back I started customizing them. When Colt Black Powder Arms was up and running, I had them refinished. I got my Pocket Police shortened to 4.5 inches and a smaller version of the 1860 Army sight fabricated and put on the gun for a better sight picture. Added elephant ivory grips and my wife had my name engraved on the back-strap of my Pocket Police. After three decades of using them - I am very comfortable with the technology. They truly are old friends that I have kept close over the years.

StrawHat
September 2, 2008, 03:27 PM
Here's mine. Purchased new in the late 70's. Still shoot as good as they look.

Not pocket guns, at least for me, but trimmer than my 1860's.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/1861007Small.jpg

Dienekes
September 2, 2008, 10:50 PM
Picked up a Uberti '61 with steel straps some years back. Lovely little gun, trouble-free and shoots right on. Found a case for it and the set looks very nice.

Sort of like a '57 Chevy except that it shoots.

4v50 Gary
September 3, 2008, 09:40 AM
Had one and gave it away unfired to a friend.

Sagetown
September 3, 2008, 10:26 AM
:) Nope; don't have a '61'. I like 'em and thought about it, but opted out for the larger caliber .44 '60'.

Kentucky-roughrider
September 3, 2008, 11:40 AM
I have never heard of the 1861 Navy. I've heard of a 1851 Navy and 1860 Army. But, if I bought a ball and cap revolver it would be a Lemat or a '60.

Ontos
September 3, 2008, 12:01 PM
I bought a used one for my first BP revolver years ago. It came with a horribly done homemade frontsight dovetailed on the barrel, but I still have it and it's always shot well enough. It's set up for the shoulder stock, and I might get one at some point, since I really like the look of stocked pistols.

Phantom Captain
September 3, 2008, 08:20 PM
Love all Colts but really have a soft spot for the .36s. Here's my '51 and '61.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r130/mboyd13/Gun%20pictures/IMG_4288.jpg

pascalp
September 3, 2008, 09:51 PM
me too, just one ... for the moment.

http://pascalp2.free.fr/images/navy36/navy36-police_right_IMG_2042_cut_800.jpg

pohill
September 3, 2008, 10:18 PM
Phantom Captain, is that 1861 a 2nd Generation or Signature Series? Those colors are incredible.

Phantom Captain
September 4, 2008, 01:18 AM
pohill said:
Phantom Captain, is that 1861 a 2nd Generation or Signature Series? Those colors are incredible.

Actually, none of the above. It's a Replica Arms which imported Ubertis some many years ago. This one was made in 1970, the year I was born. My Dad bought it way back when, I vaguely remember him telling me he got it at a shop in Ohio or it could have been at Friendship, but I've since inherited it. I'm not sure if Replica Arms imported finished pistols or if they finished roughs once they got here. I do know I've not seen other Ubertis with this brilliant of color case hardening though. Sure is a beauty and shoots great too! :cool:

mec
September 4, 2008, 09:02 AM
Replica firearsm is the direct ancestor of Cimarron. I think Allen Firearms came next. They were all Ubertis. During the Replica Arms , Allen Firearms , Colt black powder period, They did have true bone case hardening.

StrawHat
September 4, 2008, 10:01 AM
mec Replica firearsm is the direct ancestor of Cimarron. I think Allen Firearms came next. They were all Ubertis. During the Replica Arms , Allen Firearms , Colt black powder period, They did have true bone case hardening

mec,

This is not the Texas company. This is the Replica Arms that was in Marietta, Ohio and purchased by Val Forgett of Navy Arms. They imported and sold complete guns.

The two 61s I posted are also from the same company.

Phantom Captain
September 5, 2008, 10:58 AM
Wow Strawhat,

Your pistols are very interesting, I don't think I've seen '61s in those configurations, for one both of yours have full fluted cylinders. Secondly, the top one has a steel squareback trigger guard?! Interesting.

I like seeing other Replica Arms pistols too, except for here I had never seen another before. The colors on mine seem a bit more brilliant than yours though. Maybe they slacked off in later years as you say yours are later 70s where mine was made and proofmarked in 1970.

mec
September 5, 2008, 11:19 AM
This is not the Texas company

Im not sure of the history but I think Replica is a direct ancestor of the other companies. Maybe not.

Riot Earp
September 5, 2008, 05:57 PM
Cimarron used to offer a version with a full fluted cylinder. Model CA051. Not sure if it's still available. A few of the earliest originals, according to an online source, were made this way.

Here's serial number 1: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/freeads/auction.cgi?action=ViewItem&ID=1215448273&Lang=English

grimjaw
September 5, 2008, 08:50 PM
I haven't sampled all of them to be sure but between the ones I have, the 1851 Navy balanced slightly better for me than the 1861. I went the 1851 route.

jm

dwave
September 5, 2008, 08:56 PM
pohill, I think you like to show off your '61 WAY too much! :)

Smokin_Gun
September 6, 2008, 06:15 AM
I guess I was wrong I got a shipment today and found a Pietta 1861 Navy with Ivory faux grips.
I own one, I like them, but still I don't want one anymore:cool:I got one.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/Smokin_Gun/09-05-08_1321.jpg

SG

Chubbo
September 6, 2008, 01:37 PM
Hi All::)
I don't know if a baby Navy counts or not, but here is my Colt Pocket Navy, along with a Colt Pocket Police in a home brewd case.
Chubbo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/Chubbo/guns/DSC00763.jpg

mec
September 6, 2008, 03:03 PM
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=84270&stc=1&d=1220723874 SAAMANs 61 came in. It is 2008 vintage and nicely put together. He worked on the trigger a little before shooting. It showed it's individualiyt by hitting about 4 inches or a bit more left but right on or close to it for elevation. When he opened the hammer notch sight for visibility, he biased it to the right and got very close to point of aim.

This load was factory swaged lead ball over Eastern Maine treated wads and 22 grains of Goex fffg. From the bench at 25 yards.
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=84271&stc=1&d=1220723914

pohill
September 6, 2008, 09:19 PM
pohill, I think you like to show off your '61 WAY too much!
You are right. I'm obsessed to the point that I just got another one today.
It's the Signature Series 1861 .36 (I think it's the Custer Commemorative but it doesn't say Custer anywhere on it).
http://i35.tinypic.com/16k5nwn.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/64gvpj.jpg

black_powder_Rob
September 6, 2008, 11:18 PM
Wow Pohill it looks awsome.!!!!!:scrutiny: I want it.

pohill
September 6, 2008, 11:25 PM
Thanks.
I was telling the guys on Voy forum that the store in Maine (Kittery Trading Post) where I buy my toys has a two-gun cased set, an 1860 .44 Army cap and ball and a cartridge gun in .45 (Cattlemans maybe? I didn't check it out too closely) for around $760. It looked like a great deal.

dwave
September 7, 2008, 09:56 PM
All I have to say is, WOW Pohill!! Beautiful!! So..... how's about you send the old spare my way! :evil:

pohill
September 7, 2008, 11:39 PM
I had to get a new gun - I was tired of that pic, too. Might have been cheaper just to take a new pic.
This one is unfired - the question is, should it stay that way? I own only shooters but I don't know about shooting this one.

dwave
September 9, 2008, 01:38 PM
Hard call on that one Pohill. Such a great gun, but it is hard to say if you should shoot it or not. Either way it is a very nice pistol. Congratz!

pohill
September 10, 2008, 11:39 PM
what the heck - one more pic
http://i33.tinypic.com/2aesg0k.jpg

madcratebuilder
September 11, 2008, 09:16 AM
All these pic's makes want to go buy a gun today!

Chubbo
September 12, 2008, 12:08 AM
Here is my 1861 Navy, a steel back frame. I think they called it a London mod. It was made by Uberti.
I have a R&D conversion cylinder for it and can shoot .38 S&W longs in it. It is shown in a homebrewed case with accessories.
Chubbo
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/DSC007671.JPG

Riot Earp
September 12, 2008, 06:18 PM
Nice gun, Chubbo. There was a Colt 1851 Navy London Model, but I believe the London factory closed in 1857. There were around a hundred 1861 Navy revolvers cut for a shoulder stock, but I've never seen a surviving specimen and so I don't know if both the backstrap and triggerguard were steel, or if just the backstrap was, like on an 1860 Army. If someone has actually seen an original 1861 that was cut for a shoulder stock, perhaps they could clarify. Of course, Uberti might have indeed once called it a London model, as they do the '51.

Smokin_Gun
September 12, 2008, 06:44 PM
I liked it...

http://www.civilwarguns.com/0111.html

SG

pohill
September 12, 2008, 08:31 PM
Interesting article, SG, even if I don't agree with the writer.
I thought the 1862 Pocket Police & Navy were the last Sam Colt design.
And..."However, due to the flaws mentioned above, it is not a pistol for beginners to master. Extreme care must be taken to keep the mechanism free of spent caps, and it may be a task that simply is not worth the effort."
That white handled beauty I have spits spent caps out like a semi-auto, and has never ever jammed.

Why I oughta...:fire:

Riot Earp
September 26, 2008, 11:52 PM
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/RiotEarp/1861a.jpg

The insect liked it so much, it wanted a closer look.

Smokin_Gun
September 27, 2008, 04:12 AM
That white handled beauty I have spits spent caps out like a semi-auto, and has never ever jammed.

Well yours is a Colt 1861 Navy Pohill. My 1851 Navy Uberti hasn't given me trouble with caps gettin' stuck...the one in the pic is a Pie-eater so we'll see what happens. Knowing the proceedure of cocking a Colt once fired with a spent cap is an art that all should try when shootin' C & B Revs period.

SG

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