Seattle Area Gun Dealers


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sumpnz
September 1, 2008, 06:36 PM
Need some pointers to good Seattle area gun dealers that are reasonable for transfers on internet purchases. I live a few miles north of UW, and work at Boeing's Everett site. I don't mind a little bit of a drive, but it makes little sense to spend $20 on gas to save $10 on the transfer.

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MillCreek
September 1, 2008, 07:07 PM
A good research to find local FFLs by proximity to your zip code is here: http://gunbroker.com/User/DealerNetwork.asp

Having said this, I am finding that the standard handgun FFL transfer fee is now running $ 40-50 in this area. Unless you can find something significantly cheaper, the Discount Gun Sales branch on Lake City Way and 113th is your closest FFL transfer. They charge $ 50 per transfer.

sumpnz
September 1, 2008, 07:12 PM
I was in there checking them out a month or so ago, and I thought they said they charged $35. That still sounded rather high. In AZ I typically paid $15-20.

MillCreek
September 1, 2008, 10:31 PM
If you do find local FFls who do a handgun transfer for less than $ 40-50, would you please post them to this thread. I have not had much success in finding the $ 20-25 transfers for a couple of years now. Some of the local pawn shops tend to be on the lower end of the scale. I have also found that when using the Gunbroker search tool, many of the 'kitchen table' FFLs listed there are no longer in business.

sumpnz
September 2, 2008, 01:15 PM
I don't know if that the price was for handguns or longguns. I probably got that price quote for longguns as I'm much more into rifles (and now shotguns) than pistols.

Joe Gunns
September 2, 2008, 05:05 PM
The prices are goin' up all over Puget Sound. My guy just went from his long-time price of $25 to $50, although he let me slide on the last one since I am regular customer, (or maybe he thought I got screwed on my last gunbroker purchase and decided not to add to the pain). Says it is due to the certain amount of risk involved from sellers that don't provide him with their ffl info when requested and sometimes send guns with no paperwork at all, just a gun in a box.

forrestd
September 2, 2008, 05:26 PM
This place will do them for $20 and they are located a little bit outside downtown.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/capitol-loans-seattle-2

sumpnz
September 2, 2008, 05:33 PM
forrestd - I found them on Gunbrokers list. They're faxing their FFL to the seller today for a shotgun I'm buying. I'll try to remember to report how they do. They quoted $20 for longguns and $25 for handguns.

911Boss
September 2, 2008, 07:38 PM
SNS Industries in Snohomish. Not a retail shop, does $25 transfers, and builds quality AR's.

http://snsindustriesinc.com/service_3.htm


Highly recommended.

sumpnz
September 2, 2008, 08:46 PM
911Boss - Thanks. I have 3 AR lowers that'll eventually need uppers, so that place will be a good one to check out for kits and/or assembly work.

MillCreek
September 2, 2008, 08:54 PM
Wow, I have never heard of SNS. And yet they are right on Airport Way in Snohomish, so I have ridden my bicycle past them hundreds of times.

Bart Noir
September 2, 2008, 09:06 PM
MillCreek, they (SNS) sometimes have a table at the Monroe WAC gunshow. Not sure about Puyallup.

And nobody mentioned Sam's Gun Shop on Airport Road in south Everett ??? It will be very close to his place of work.

But I cannot tell you the transfer fee. It might be discounted if you join the range.

Bart Noir
Sam's: 11714 Airport Road, phone number (425) 348-3006
Yes, they chose that number carefully.

FourTeeFive
September 3, 2008, 12:02 AM
If you're north here's one in Bellingham that will transfer for $20:

Frank's Place
1311 Railroad Ave
Bellingham, WA 98225
(360) 733-1077

sumpnz
September 15, 2008, 08:04 PM
I don't have the shotgun yet, but so far Capitol Loan has done well. They tried to fax the FFL the same day I called them about it. However the seller for some reason didn't get it. They tried faxing it again, but only half the page came through. Don't know who's fax was malf'ing, but they mailed their FFL right after the two fax attempts failed. So, so far I'd say that Capitol Loan's customer service has been good and properly responsive.

More to come in a week or so when the shotgun arrives. It should ship out tomorrow.

XD_fan
September 15, 2008, 09:58 PM
TEN RING ENTERPRISES HAYES JASON LARRY
11618 29TH AVENUE SE
EVERETT WA US 98208

I used Jason when I still lived up there. I think he's charging $20/per now.

acdodd
September 15, 2008, 11:04 PM
Why are FFLs charging sales tax?
And what are they taxing?

makarovnik
September 16, 2008, 01:18 AM
I can't remember how much Sam's charges but they are very slow.

Race Bannon
September 16, 2008, 02:15 AM
I'm also a few miles north of the U. in Wedgewood. Butch's Gun's on Aurora charges $35.00. Not really cheap but, it is closer to home.

mort
September 16, 2008, 03:17 AM
Go talk to Randy over at Lynwood guns on 99 around 220. Bit of a small shop, but he is good people.

krs
September 16, 2008, 01:04 PM
Says it is due to the certain amount of risk involved from sellers that don't provide him with their ffl info when requested and sometimes send guns with no paperwork at all, just a gun in a box.

There's no requirement that FFL info accompany a firearm that comes into a shop, but he's got to show the source of each gun he enters in his log. so instead of raising a price why not make it incumbent on the buyer of the firearm that some sort of identification of the seller be included in the box?

I'd submit that you guys up in the greater Seattle area are being taken for an additional amount of profit because the opportunity is there.

When I lived in Calif bay area, all of the local dealers, members of a large assn. of gun sellers, agreed to jack the price - one went so far as to finally raise his to $100. The reason given was that his counter time was expensive and that doing transfers took his people away from making sales. There may have been a measured validity in that but I felt that the real reason was that each sale made by some internet low-coster to one of the local customer base affected their bottom line, and did so more heavily with each passing month. I'd bet that the Seattle dealers are seeing the same sort of situation.

These poor gun dealers. They try so hard to maintain ther brick and mortar business while the times they are a changing. Most don't have the knowhow or the energy, much less the inclination, to join in the internet profit machine. Some do and for them the doing of transfers is no big deal because they're making money on the other end by selling online if they can access junk to sell. It takes a high volume to get the price breaks that a place like Bud's in Kentucky enjoys and can pass on to us in new gun pricing - Kentucky allowed for them to get big enough to do it their way. But psuedo California Washington state makes it near impossible to be a high volume seller like Bud's. The state tax structure pinches harder the bigger you get, and there's an underlying legislativve ill will toward guns in this state. It might help some to vote out the current bitch, I don't know.

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But now wait a minute - who's fault is this really? We want the dealer to stay in business so he'll be there to transfer our guns in from here and there, but heck no we won't pay his price to buy one from him! He's a ripoff, there's ten places on the net that'll sell me a Colt cheaper than he does! It's shouted high and low on boards like this. I'd be a fool to buy from the local schmoe and pay that price, and pay the tax, and pay, and pay. I'm smarter than that and I know where the good deals are and get them - I'm so smart that I put my local dealer right out of business and wonder what the matter with him is.

Jeez, I miss that place. It was neat to be able to go in there and talk guns for a while..... Why, old Mike would always keep a pot of coffee ready, and remember how he was always the first to donate a prize to be given at our local club matches? Man, he was one of the good ones - Too bad THEY drove him out of business, isn't it?

deadin
September 16, 2008, 01:38 PM
Surely one of you Seattlites have some kind of a storefront, or, at least, know someone that does. Talk them into doing like my local FFL. He has a combination stove, tile, carpet, appliance and gun store. His gun store has no inventory. It consists of a wholesale catalog from which he will order anything you want with a very small mark-up. He will handle transfers at a reasonable cost. He can do this because he really has no overhead on the gunstore part. Just his license fees, etc. He's happy to pick up the occasional $20-25 on a transfer.

pistobro206
September 16, 2008, 01:52 PM
Any update with your experience at Capitol Loans.

I'll give a +1 to Jason Hayes of Ten Ring Enterprises. I've done a lot of transfers with him. I confident his current transfer price is $25.

-Albert

MillCreek
September 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
I wonder if Jason Hayes of Ten Ring is still in business. I found him via the Gunbroker list and looked into using him a year or two ago, and there was no response to my emails. His address is in the Silver Lake area of Everett which would be close to me.

sumpnz
September 17, 2008, 04:34 PM
Seller acknowledged receipt of my payment today (turtle express did the usual). Capitol Loan should receive the shotgun sometime between Friday and Monday depending on if it goes out today or tomorrow, and whether it takes 2 or 3 days to arrive (USPS Priority mail). I'll update this thread once I have the shotgun in hand and the transaction with Capitol Loan is complete.

pistobro206
September 17, 2008, 04:55 PM
I'm confident he still is in business as I've done a few transfers with him this year.

Is it possible you have an old email address?

This is the one I use and he responds to... jason.hayes27@verizon.net

I also found out he does transfers for quite a number of fellow competition shooters (IDPA/USPSA).

-Albert

MillCreek
September 17, 2008, 06:48 PM
Wow, thanks, Albert! I will have to check on my home desktop, but the email address I was using for Mr. Hayes is different. It was not in the verizon domain.

forrestd
September 18, 2008, 10:17 PM
I did an FFL transfer through Capitol Loans earlier this week and was really pleased with the experience. I'll definitely be using them for future transfers.

sumpnz
September 25, 2008, 04:08 PM
Got the shotgun yesterday. Everything at Capitol Loans went very smoothly. Just cost the $20 (plus the sales tax on the $20 for a total of $21.78) for the transfer. They were quick, professional, and chatted just enough to be pleasant but without wasteing too much of my time.

The neighborhood is a little sketchy though. Definitely need to maintain situational awareness while leaving.

I'd go there again for transfers. They don't normally retail new guns (pawn shop) so they don't seem to mind too much doing the transfers.

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