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retgarr
September 2, 2008, 02:00 AM
Some time back I posted a thread asking for pictures of people opinions on the most beautiful pistol. It received a good response.

Today I thought that since I consider the shotgun to be the best canvas for firearms artistry there should be a most beautiful shotgun thread. So here it is.

Now I don't mean for everyone to go out and find a picture of some Holland & Holland and post that. I want you to post a gun that you feel something about. "this here is my grandpappys sears double. I repaired the stock with brown duct tape. Too me it's the most beautiful gun in the world" or "I have always like the browning superposed in 26", 28" is too long. I love the receiver the lines the way they do ...". That's what I'm looking for, specifics why you like the particular gun you post.

Anyways, here is me being a hypocrite by not psting anything. I don't know where to start.
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Geronimo45
September 2, 2008, 02:21 AM
This is 444's picture, of his shotguns. I'm very partial to that Browning Auto-5 - aesthetically pleasing, somehow, with that 13" barrel. Nicely carved stock, whilst the short barrel gives it an interesting utilitarian feel.
Yep, I like the Humpback. The reg'lar length ones seem to shoulder and balance nicely, too...

ArmedBear
September 2, 2008, 02:27 AM
I've shot an Auto 5 that was quite attractive, in 99% condition, fully engraved, gorgeous old thing. Teenage girl was shooting it at the trap range; seems it belonged to her grandfather or something. But it was still an Auto 5, and felt as odd as any shotgun ever made, when you shot it.

I don't think there's a repeater that really qualifies as "most beautiful". Maybe if there were no SxS guns in the world, and no O/U's. But there are.

Nah, THIS is a beautiful shotgun...
http://www.turnbullrestoration.com/client_images/catalog19872/pages/files/ParkerA1_largeL.jpg

PJR
September 2, 2008, 10:10 AM
Place and time decides.

When it's the middle of the night and the dogs are barking there is nothing more beautiful than my 870.

When I'm going to the last station tied for the lead my MX8 is the most beautiful gun in the world.

When the dogs are on point there is no gun more beautiful than my little custom sxs.

Dave McCracken
September 2, 2008, 10:47 AM
AB, that's a Parker A-1 Special, probably a Turnbull restoration or upgrade.

Lessee if I can find that old pic of Frankenstein....

ArmedBear
September 2, 2008, 11:42 AM
AB, that's a Parker A-1 Special, probably a Turnbull restoration or upgrade.


Good eye.:)

MCgunner
September 2, 2008, 11:54 AM
I don't think there's a repeater that really qualifies as "most beautiful". Maybe if there were no SxS guns in the world, and no O/U's. But there are.


Agreed, and especially shotguns with flashlights and crap hanging off of 'em....:barf: Nothing beats a beautiful side by side IMHO, especially an ornate side lock. I'm partial to the looks of a side lock. Engraving beats checkering. :D

http://www.hollandandholland.com/brochure/guns/graphics/frontgun.jpg


Hey, you asked for beauty, not affordability. Nope, I ain't got the budget for it. Pretty to look at, though. I really prefer hunting scenes to scroll work like this one.

MCgunner
September 2, 2008, 12:03 PM
Ooh, how about these?

http://www.mcdonaldsgunshop.com/jpegs/hh_2guns.jpg

http://www.mcdonaldsgunshop.com/jpegs/hh_safety.jpg

Steven Proshop
September 2, 2008, 12:19 PM
i always liked the Auto-5.

JohnBT
September 2, 2008, 12:46 PM
"I don't think there's a repeater that really qualifies as "most beautiful"."

Sure, but I'd still like to have this REMINGTON 1100 F grade.

http://www.williamlarkinmoore.com/images/P1011572.JPG

And it's a 28 GAUGE

Only $7500, too. :)

www.williamlarkinmoore.com/admin/Allinventory.htm#Used%20American

MCgunner
September 2, 2008, 02:52 PM
Love the wood on that 1100. Pretty gun, but below the glitter there's an 1100. :barf: LOL Not that bad, there's just other autos I'd prefer. Purty, though. :D

It ain't a shotgun, and I might get something less than a grade VI, but I want one of these someday and might actually be able to afford it. :D I just have a thing for these little guns and never owned one. My uncle's favorite knock around gun was a Browning, though, so that's probably why I like 'em. The higher grades are nice. Hell, the field grade ain't your average 10/22. LOL

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/images/021002l.jpg

Nolo
September 2, 2008, 04:00 PM
Am I the only person here who thinks that the fancy, engraved, polished guns look absolutely hideous?
What do I think is the most beautiful?
I really like this one:
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa149/Nolo_photo/DSC00123.jpg
(WANT)

scrat
September 2, 2008, 04:22 PM
my vote is for the holland and holland. they have always been my favorite

PJR
September 2, 2008, 04:32 PM
That 1100 and to a lesser extent the Parker pictured above raise the question of when the price is less about the gun than the adornment. Inside that Remington is just another 28 gauge 1100 with all of its inherent faults.

Meanwhile the Parker has very fine line Fleur de Lis chequering. While not to my tastes, one can't help but admire the craftsmanship required to execute that pattern even though the chequering is probably too fine to be useful. Similarly the higher grade Foxes produced by Galazan are the work of magnificent craftsmen but often the end result is gaudy and unpleasing to the eye.

IMO, what makes an expensive gun beautiful is understated elegance. Sometimes less is more.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/2xmx8/zeus_dett1.jpg

ArmedBear
September 2, 2008, 04:40 PM
That IS beautiful; you're right. For exactly the reasons you say.

I just pulled that Parker off Turnbull's site as a response to the ugly guns in the picture above it; I didn't look around for what I REALLY think is most beautiful.

As I've said before about the 1100, it's like laws and sausages. You don't want to see how it's made.

That round-receiver boxlock is a truly fine gun, elegant, and without overkill. Winner so far.

It's a delicate balance, really, as is the appreciation of a fine gun. As you said, one may appreciate what it takes to make something, but acknowledge that it is form over function. The flipside, of course, is failing to appreciate the functional beauty of a fine SxS.

mgregg85
September 2, 2008, 04:47 PM
I think that revolver shotgun(not a street sweeper) was real nice looking.

Just can't find a picture of it.

Grunt
September 2, 2008, 05:27 PM
I'm with Nolo here too. Never cared for the shiney engraved guns. Here's a few pics of what I think are my more beautiful shotguns.:)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/USMCGruntUSAFCATM/Firearms/Shotguns/DCP_1856.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/USMCGruntUSAFCATM/Firearms/Shotguns/Remington870FoldingStock.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q236/USMCGruntUSAFCATM/Firearms/Shotguns/Norinco1897Trenchgun.jpg

Hawk
September 2, 2008, 05:33 PM
If beauty is defined as function, I'd place the Blaser F3 hat in the ring - the one with the fencepost-plain stock and unadorned receiver. The ones I've seen (don't own one) seem to define "as good as it gets" in an O/U with no adornment. It took over from a plain DT-10 in my personal hit parade of grind 'em up plain looking tools that do an exemplary job in other's hands.

If adornment enters the equation I'd confess to liking elegant as much as the next guy but I'm still fascinated by the Beretta Dianna set. It's got as much fru-fru as can be rammed into an artifact of its size but it's well executed.

The 28Ga entry:
http://www.berettausa.com/diana/28_Large_woodcock.jpg


In the "dirty little secret" department, I harbor a possibly unhealthy urge to take a Cynergy with composite stock and send the stock to an artist for application of highly unconventional paint job.

When I hit the lotto, I'm sending my 1949 L.C. Smith to Turnbull for an upgrade along the lines of:
http://www.turnbullrestoration.com/client_images/catalog19872/pages/images/Catalog_LC_Deluxe.jpg

ArmedBear
September 2, 2008, 05:40 PM
DT-10, Blaser F3, and I'd add any of the plain Perazzis.

Plain-looking blue gun, but when you click it shut, it closes effortlessly but feels like a vault door, and you raise it to your shoulder, you recognize that true beauty runs deep.

HB
September 2, 2008, 06:06 PM
Browning BPS's are usually nice looking although heavy.

Deer Hunter
September 2, 2008, 06:16 PM
Engravings on guns makes them look wussy-fied.


http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x91/Captain_Kennedy/P1060351.jpg

Guns that put hair on your chest are the only ones worth having.

Nolo
September 2, 2008, 07:19 PM
DH, I was seriously considering putting the 1740 up there as my choice.
But I went with the cut down 870, instead.

Okiecruffler
September 2, 2008, 07:31 PM
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h234/okiecruffler/100_2505_edited.jpg


If I have to explain, you won't understand.

PJR
September 2, 2008, 07:39 PM
DT-10, Blaser F3, and I'd add any of the plain Perazzis.

Plain-looking blue gun, but when you click it shut, it closes effortlessly but feels like a vault door, and you raise it to your shoulder, you recognize that true beauty runs deep.
Indeed. But a wood upgrade does help.;)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/2xmx8/P1010179-1.jpg

JohnBT
September 2, 2008, 07:46 PM
I still think about this Fabbri from time to time. I could afford it if I sold my house and lived in my car.

http://www.fabbri.it/8SUW%20L.jpg

My father bought this 28 gauge Guerini Woodlander two days after we ran across it in a local shop. He was 81 at the time and I was handing him 28 gauge guns to try just to see what he thought. He didn't like the fit or the feel of the Berettas, Brownings or Rugers. I nearly fell out of my chair when he called the office that Monday and told me that he'd bought it.

Six or seven months later, having thoroughly broken it in, he gave it to me for my birthday.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/JohnBT3/DSCN0153aa.jpg?t=1220395003

ArmedBear
September 2, 2008, 07:51 PM
The Woodlander is really nice, but it's not so over-the-top as to keep you from using it. That's beauty.

That's another important criterion, IMHO.

I mean, if you DID have the first gun, would you take it outside?:)

MCgunner
September 2, 2008, 08:11 PM
My old Sarasqueta still closes with that vault door sensation after 37 years. Of course, the last 18 or so, it hasn't been fired much. Kinda beat up, but I often think about getting new wood built for it to bring back the visual beauty. It's a Spanish built gun. Some pretty under-rated guns came out of Spain in the past.


Am I the only person here who thinks that the fancy, engraved, polished guns look absolutely hideous?

Probably not, but you definitely don't agree with ME. :D I love fancy adorned doubles, just candy for the eye. Would I HUNT with one? Probably not. I prefer plain guns for hunting that I'm not afraid to drag through the muck. Spartans and Condors work just fine. LOL I'm not rich enough to own a really fine double, but I can look at 'em on the net and drool. :D Paintings don't enthuse me, this is the artwork that I appreciate.

Pumps, autos, dime a dozen. I have a few, but they're no more beautiful than my claw hammer. They do the job, just ain't something I sit around droolin' over. Don't mean I don't like how they work for me. I do appreciate them, just not in an artistic sort of way.

Hey Deer Hunter, don't live the Aggie stereotype. You have to have some sophistication here. Don't be such a blasted redneck. ROFLMAO!:neener::D

JohnBT, very nice!

Deer Hunter
September 2, 2008, 08:22 PM
Instead of attacking my supreme and unchallengable manliness, you go after a cultural stereotype propagated by my choice in higher education. Bold, yet ultimately effeminate, move MC.

I just say you're jealous. :neener:

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
September 2, 2008, 08:29 PM
Am I the only person here who thinks that the fancy, engraved, polished guns look absolutely hideous?

I believe that would be "affirmative" ('cept for that one other guy above in the thread).

dasanii19
September 2, 2008, 08:37 PM
Am I the only person here who thinks that the fancy, engraved, polished guns look absolutely hideous?

Your not alone!!! I to think they are hideous.

Rembrandt
September 2, 2008, 09:46 PM
Those who have never owned a fine engraved shotgun have missed one of the great pleasures of life. I have many "utility" shotguns in the collection....but the ones that are truly beautiful are the engraved ones. (....and yes, the do get regular use at the range and in the field)

Have long been a Superposed fan, bought this Pigeon Broadway Trap years ago for the trap range. Often marveled at the engraving details and to realize how many hours it took to carve each line.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/super6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/super2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/super5.jpg

High grade 4 barrel set Browning Leige with the finer detailed Bolino engraving.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Rembrandt51/Liegeset5.jpg

shevrock
September 2, 2008, 09:57 PM
I don't really like "uber" engraved stuff either. I need to get a picture of my Mossberg. But to me it's the most beautiful shotgun i've ever seen.

Nolo
September 2, 2008, 10:19 PM
Hey Deer Hunter, don't live the Aggie stereotype. You have to have some sophistication here. Don't be such a blasted redneck. ROFLMAO!
He's not the only Aggie on here...

gp911
September 2, 2008, 10:26 PM
I gained a greater appreciation of the engraving, etc. after reading an article (in an NRA mag maybe?) about what makes a "best" grade shotgun, including how the engraving is there to hold & retain oil to stop rust, the gold letters reading "safe" are actual gold for better visibility, how many man-hours go into all the hand-fitting, and so on.

Made me really want one...


gp911

Loomis
September 2, 2008, 10:28 PM
Belgium browning auto 5 for me. I think it's the most beautiful shotgun ever made...well, except for those old sidelock percussion side bys. But those don't count cuz they aren't practical.

Loomis
September 2, 2008, 10:36 PM
gp911:

You're talking about stippling. Stippling is really cool.

see the front strap:

http://www.kscustom.com/images/close%20OM.jpg

Clipper
September 2, 2008, 11:04 PM
I'm a meat-and-potatoes kinda guy, and believe the Winchester M-12 to be the most beautious shotgun ever made...

stiletto raggio
September 2, 2008, 11:12 PM
I don't have a particular gun in mind, but the lines and proportions of a 28 gauge over/under are magnificent. Graceful but not dainty or weak. Much prettier than any 12 or 20 in terms of pure lines. The fact that such a gun will weigh less than six pounds and still pack a good enough punch for anything short of geese is just an added bonus. And no, I don't have one... yet.

MCgunner
September 2, 2008, 11:31 PM
Instead of attacking my supreme and unchallengable manliness, you go after a cultural stereotype propagated by my choice in higher education. Bold, yet ultimately effeminate, move MC.

I just say you're jealous.

My friend, it takes one too know one.....ATM class of 1975...;)

retgarr
September 2, 2008, 11:49 PM
Okkiecruffler,

That picture is perfectly understood.

gp911
September 3, 2008, 12:11 AM
Loomis:

Stippling may serve the same purpose, but they were specifically referring to the ornate engraving common to your typical $50k shotgun.

Nice 1911 though.

gp911

RaisedByWolves
September 3, 2008, 03:34 AM
I don't really like "uber" engraved stuff either. I need to get a picture of my Mossberg. But to me it's the most beautiful shotgun i've ever seen.




Here it is........



http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3641/dsc02688px2.jpg






Well.......OK, thats mine, but you probably dig it too, just like my cat. (Btw, thats a 20" BBL and a 32" cat)



Mossberg 590A1, to me the nicest looking piece of equipment ever designed. I like those fancy engraved guns, their very nice, but to me their like a Rolls Vs a nice Chevy Pickup. Shure the Rolls is nice, but throwing the guns and dogs in the back and heading off to the camp just isint the same with one of those.



BTW, if your wondering why Im showing a TAC Shotty and talking about hunting, its because I dont actually hunt, thats just what I tell the wife. I go to the cabin to access the range for shooting and also I go for the nightlife!:evil:


Screw em Deer.


.

Hornet 6
September 3, 2008, 07:32 AM
My 28g Miroku, looks good and functions better.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/neilclay/Miroku2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/neilclay/Miroku1.jpg

Neil. :)

Mp7
September 3, 2008, 08:03 AM
does this one count :-)?

http://johno.myiglou.com/images/lemat2.jpg

an old fashioned doublebarrel is fine for me.
Engraving? Naaa.......... itīs like a pink poloshirt,
donīt want that..;)

nice pics @all

JohnBT
September 3, 2008, 09:16 AM
I like a little engraving. One of David McKay Brown's...

http://www.mckaybrown.com/Images/003.jpg

www.mckaybrown.com

"Ģ29,000" Engraving not included.

"Present Company

All four members of staff have been with the company since leaving school and have served a five year apprenticeship."

Note that the four have many years of experience: 31, 28, 23, 21.

"The annual production is just over 30 shotguns comprising 30% side by sides and 70% over and unders with one or two double rifles."

JohnBT
September 3, 2008, 12:24 PM
I forgot to say thanks for the comments on the Guerini. I'll pass them along to my father.

This year he gave me $30 for my birthday and told me to buy a new billfold. :D Mine has been falling apart for a year or so.

John

Nolo
September 3, 2008, 05:16 PM
PJR, I must admit, the rifle you posted is a purdy gun.
O'course, I see no use in myself owning such a flower, because I'm a little bit more of the West Virginia "geroff mah prahpertay" mountain man type* than the fine, cultured Southern gent.
One of the reasons I don't like shotguns with fine engraving, checkering, and polish is because they're SHOTGUNS.
They are the most brutal, devastating firearm known to man (at least at close range, and as long as you don't throw the M82 and/or Tyrannosaur into the mix).
All that fine stuff belongs on double rifles in some gentleman's caliber (the 28 Gauges get a free pass here, as it is the ONLY elegant shotgun chambering).
And a whole mess of people overdo it on the fancy.
Anyway, fancy an' me just don't mix well...
IMHO,
-Nate Fitch
*I do not, nor have I ever, resided in West Virginia. But you wouldn't know that by lookin' at me...

SevenĐ
September 3, 2008, 08:02 PM
I'm biased.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3278/img0474mq8.jpg

RonE
September 4, 2008, 02:27 AM
Once upon a time I had a Winchester black diamond Mod 12 with factory fanchy wood and factory rib. Deep blue. I considered it a pretty shotgun.

JohnBT
September 4, 2008, 09:17 AM
Okay, time for a pic of my 28" 12 ga. 870 Express do-it-all gun. It was my duck gun for 10 years.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/JohnBT3/DSCN0165a3.jpg?t=1220530255

The Guerini has 28" barrels too and weighs 1.5 pounds less IIRC. The Decelerator pad I put on the 870 added a little weight.

JT

HIcarry
September 4, 2008, 06:15 PM
I just picked up this a couple of weeks ago...Looks pretty good to me. Shoots pretty well too

http://http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=84180&stc=1&d=1220562846

Capstick1
September 5, 2008, 12:14 AM
I've always been a sucker for Auto Fives. As far as looks go I've always believed guns should be shot, not sit in a gun cabinet looking pretty all the time. I would hate to take one of these megadollar H & H shotguns out to the salt marsh and suddenly get rained on or accidently drop it in the water. A good synthetic stocked semi or pump seems like an ideal platform for the serious wingshooter. By the way Mp7, that's a nice Le Matte pistol.

ArmedBear
September 5, 2008, 01:18 AM
for the serious wingshooter

Not all serious wingshooting is done in a salt marsh.:)

A plastic pump may well be the most appropriate gun for a particular environment. I just don't see the necessary evil of a synthetic stock as "beautiful".

Hunter0924
September 5, 2008, 01:49 AM
I believe the most beautiful shotgun is the Winchester 1897 take down with the 32" barrel option.

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