Polish Tantel 5.45x39


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Walkalong
September 2, 2008, 11:13 AM
Would these Polish Tantel 5.45 X 39 (http://www.classicarms.us/) rifles still be legal if you put a fixed stock on them, and is that possible? It should be a fun plinker with light recoil, and ammo, at least right now, is relatively cheap. What makes these rifles legal. USA parts? Which parts are USA made, if that is the case?

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Fergy35
September 2, 2008, 11:45 AM
I am sure that someone smarter than me will be along to answer this with more certainty. But, I believe if you start making changes, you will probably want to make sure you have the right amount of US made parts. I believe you will need (5). The fixed stock, if you get a US made one would count as one part. You could then change the pistol grip to get two. From there the gas piston, trigger group (each part counts) and the upper and lower hand guards are candidates. I think you can even use US made parts in your mags (springs, followers, floor plates etc.) to reach the count. But if you use mag parts you would have to make sure each mag you use has been changed.

Now with all of that being said, I will confess I don't know all of the ins and outs. The above is just my limited understanding so far.

I am also curious, because I have been thinking about one of those same rifles. Like you, I would want the fixed stock.

LiamAce
September 2, 2008, 12:02 PM
It might be a good idea to avoid Tantals made by Century Arms. The US-made barrels they have will not properly stabilize bullets very well. You might even see sideways bullet holes in your targets!

But putting a fixed stock on a Tantal shouldn't be a problem.

nalioth
September 2, 2008, 12:24 PM
As mentioned, replacing the folder with a fixed stock is easily and legally done.

The folder is foreign made, so you can replace it with any stock you like.

Big Matt
September 2, 2008, 12:25 PM
Other than calling and asking, how can a person tell which rifles have been "made by Century Arms?"

Every post about these Tantals has this same statement with no info as how to tell if they're Century rifles.

jws527
September 2, 2008, 12:45 PM
Any pistol-grip equipped rifle you buy through a reputable dealer/company will already be 922r compliant and you won't have to worry about the parts count - especially if you replace the existing stock with another US made part.

As an aside, the Tantal is a good choice for that, since its receiver will take standard AKM stocks. Some folders won't.

Other than calling and asking, how can a person tell which rifles have been "made by Century Arms?"

Every post about these Tantals has this same statement with no info as how to tell if they're Century rifles.Price, usually. The Century Tantals tend to be around $500.

I was about to grab one when I read about the keyholing problem. Apparently, they used a US-made 5.56 barrel instead of the original chrome lined Polish 5.45 part for compliance purposes. I'm not sure how true that is (sounds like a damned stupid move on their part), but I'd be wary.

jackdanson
September 2, 2008, 01:50 PM
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct449.aspx

Here you go, that is the only site I've seen them on... they also have folders if you wanted to pick your own stock. This is an interarms, not a century.. it has a chromed barrel.. have fun!

If you are in person, the cetury will have markings saying so on the reciever.

streakr
September 2, 2008, 02:27 PM
Wow! The prices for the AKs, Izmats, Saiga, 74s etc. are outrageous! The ARs look to be a bargain.

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jws527
September 2, 2008, 02:30 PM
Wow! The prices for the AKs, Izmats, Saiga, 74s etc. are outrageous! The ARs look to be a bargain.A functional Saiga is only around $300. It won't look much like an AK, but works all the same. What you see there are converted/modified versions with all sorts of extra stuff tacked in.

nalioth
September 2, 2008, 02:56 PM
Wow! The prices for the AKs, Izmats, Saiga, 74s etc. are outrageous! The ARs look to be a bargain. Atlantic Firearms are proud of what they offer.

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