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poppeye
September 2, 2008, 07:26 PM
Ok PLEASE READ THIS WHOLE THING. i am a 13 year old kid looking for a INEXPENSIVE shotgun i make 25$ at least a week from grass cutting.
my price rang is $300 or less:) the cheaper the better.
this might be calling for an argument but i have to ask someone.
it would be best if you have tryind them.

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mgregg85
September 2, 2008, 07:30 PM
The 870 or the 500 will be perfect for you. Don't forget to look for used guns too, you can find some great deals.

I got a nice, new looking mossberg 590 for only $212 from gander mountain.

poppeye
September 2, 2008, 07:31 PM
k 590 or 500, mgregg85?

stiletto raggio
September 2, 2008, 08:12 PM
If you want an all-purpose shotgun, I would bet you can find a used 870 or 500 combo for at or under $300. You don't need a rifled barrel, just one with rifle sights and preferably interchangeable chokes on both barrels. If you want a pure hunting gun, I would bet you can find a used Mossy autoloader.

The 590 is heavier and more expensive than a 500, so if you go Mossberg, I would get teh 500 for your purposes. Contrary to popular belief, most of the shotguns being used by our soldiers downrange are Mossberg 500s. I saw no Remingtons and only one Benelli while I was deployed. An SF guy had a Vietnam-era Winchester Model 12, but that is a whole different story.

john917v
September 2, 2008, 08:18 PM
Honestly, you can't go wrong with any of them. The Stoeger is least known/been around for less time, but it's an autoloader. The 88, while the cheapest, has been GREAT for me. It uses the same chokes and barrels as the 500, so they're easily bought. Mine's never failed me, always ejected, and it feels pretty good when I hold it. If you get the Maverick, you will have more $ for shells, and accessories, if you want them. I cut grass, too. It's pretty good money.

DaleCooper51
September 2, 2008, 08:35 PM
I know it's not on your list, but I would consider one of the NEF single barrel shotguns. They are light, inexpensive and great shooters. Used examples can be found for under $100 and new ones between $100 and $200. They are a lot of gun for the money.

I learned on a 20ga with a mod choke when I was 10. Put a recoil pad on it if it doesnt come with one and use the extra money on shells. I believe they are great first shotguns and great to learn with.

3pairs12
September 2, 2008, 10:05 PM
If your range is up to $300 You could get a good condition 500 a lot of shells and extra barrel. You could probably do the same with the 870 just have to shop around a bit more. I have shot both and learned on an 870. I think in your case the 500 will be a better value. Let us know what you get.

coyotehitman
September 2, 2008, 10:15 PM
If i were you I would wait a little longer. Most stores will begin running some sales just before the gun season for deer. Dicks Sporting Goods usually has a deal on a Mossberg 500 combo in 12 or 20 gauge (2 barrels, two combs, and a scope) for 250.00. Similar 870 and 500 deals can be had at Bass Pro around this time as well.

Either one will serve you well, but I think the 870 has its advantages.

dasanii19
September 2, 2008, 10:17 PM
Buy the 870 and keep it for the rest of your life. If you have a Big 5 sporting goods or a Sportsmans warehouse you can find it brand new for $299

mgregg85
September 2, 2008, 10:58 PM
k 590 or 500, mgregg85?

Both of them are great guns, if you could find a 590A1, they are built a bit better than the standard 500.

If I were you, I would go to the store with your mother or father and ask to handle both an 870 and a 500/590 and see which one fits you bets and which pump stroke you like better.

Personally, I prefer the 870 but its really just because I am more accustomed to using them.

scythefwd
September 3, 2008, 03:12 AM
I bought my mossberg 500a combo ( 1 x 24'' rifled barrel, scope, 1 x 28'' smooth bore barrel with accuchokes, 1 x modified cyl, 1 x full, and 1 x improved cyl) for less than 300 brand new. Wait around and look at the dicks (big 5, gander mountain, etc.) ads. You will find some good deals coming up as deer season is about to start. The mossy 500 will let you use sabots, shot, slugs, and black powder (there is an inline bp barrel that uses 209 primers for about 100-150) if you wish to expand on it later. The 870 will do everything but the bp that the mossy will. Both the 870 and the 500 are popular guns, and they are popular for a reason. The will last you if you take care of them.

RaisedByWolves
September 3, 2008, 03:12 AM
The 500 is generally cheaper and IMO nicer to use than the 870.


Yes its looser feeling, but you really dont notice it unless you handle both side/side and are picky. The 500 is the basic platform for the Military 590A1 (Yes, I own one:D) and will outlive you with some shooting more than 10,00 rounds and still working.


Nothing against the 870 (The action release is kind of thin), but I like me some Mossy 500's!:neener:

MAX100
September 3, 2008, 04:17 AM
I would get an 870. Look for a used one.


GC

Lon371
September 3, 2008, 06:34 AM
I have 3 500s. I have 12-20-410. I have a 28 inch smooth bore, I have used it for everything from clay pigeons to Deer for the last 9 years(no problems what so ever) The 20 is my boys. Bought it used $150 with slug barrel and smooth. He uses it for everything as well (no problems). The 410 is my daughters. Smooth bore. She uses it for squirrel and DEER. Her picture is on the site somewhere of her first deer(10 point) again NO PROBLEMS. I do like the 870 but I am in no hurry to replace my Mossys.

Let us know what you get.

Lonny

poppeye
September 3, 2008, 10:35 AM
ill try to tell you all. i might get a mossy or 870 with rifled and smooth barreled

ronto
September 3, 2008, 05:27 PM
The location of the safety, slide release, and shell elevator on the 870 are a PIA.
I purchased mine NIB at Wal-Mart for $219.95 and it's the best 220 bucks I've spent in a long time.

19-3Ben
September 3, 2008, 05:41 PM
I voted for the Maverick just because of nudgetary reasons and the fact that it will function as well as the others.

I also want to say, without derailing the thread, just how happy your post made me Poppeye. I hope i don't sound paternalistic or anything, but you are everything that is right with this country.
A young kid who already has his priorities straight. Working hard to make some money, and wants to spend it on a great american tradition.
You're not weasling your parents for it, and you have no sense of entitlement, and you're not afraid to address a group of strangers to ask advice on your purchase. I just want to thank you for making my day. I know if you were my kid, I'd be proud as all get out.

I really hope that people like Poppeye are indicative of our future.

ZeSpectre
September 3, 2008, 05:42 PM
Mossberg 500
No getting the shell stuck under the elevator!

SamG.
September 3, 2008, 05:46 PM
I'd choose the 500 because of the safety position. I have a Maverick 88 with an 18" barrel, and it's an awesome gun. Both are great. I can post Pics if you like.

poppeye
September 3, 2008, 06:11 PM
please do!

dasanii19
September 3, 2008, 06:17 PM
Mossberg 500
No getting the shell stuck under the elevator!

Im guessing your referring to the 870? If so, only the older 870's had the problem with a shell getting stuck under the follower.

wnycollector
September 3, 2008, 06:28 PM
I picked up my maverick 88 last fall. Zero problems thus far...not bad for a sub $200 shotgun.

SamG.
September 3, 2008, 06:40 PM
Okay here it is: It's got an 18" barrel and an Advanced Technology folding stock. Note the safety position. (and small pics) Enjoy.

Gun: $ 150
Barrel: $85
Stock: $65


Thanks
Sam

coyotehitman
September 3, 2008, 06:45 PM
I also want to say, without derailing the thread, just how happy your post made me Poppeye. I hope i don't sound paternalistic or anything, but you are everything that is right with this country.
A young kid who already has his priorities straight. Working hard to make some money, and wants to spend it on a great american tradition.

+1

Make sure you pick up adequate eye protection, hearing protection, some gun care products, and a decent case to protect your investment.

john917v
September 3, 2008, 07:52 PM
I'm proud of Poppeye as well. Don't hear that too much from kids these days, compared to "I asked my parents to get me one..." I agree with coyotehitman, accys like those he listed are must-haves.

poppeye
September 3, 2008, 08:10 PM
i got some ear muffs i use for grass cutting. and bought safety glasses for grass too. i guess i can say thanks for being proud don't know what els to say.:o:o:o:o:o:o

Katana8869
September 3, 2008, 08:58 PM
I'm going to second what everyone else is saying Poppeye. I think it is great that you have your priorities in order and you are working toward being able to buy your gun on your own. There is no better feeling than getting to enjoy something that you have worked for and knowing that you have accomplished a goal that you have set for yourself.

I think that any of your 3 choices would serve you well. I have owned several models of all 3 guns and I think that the 870 has a slight edge in quality and a smoother action than the others. My 870 is fitted with a 20" slug barrel and it is the gun that I use for hog hunting here in central Florida.

This is not to take away from the other 2 though. I have an 18" Maverick 12 gauge that lives under my bed for home protection. It does the most important job that I could ever give to a firearm, which is to protect my home and my family.

Whichever you chose I hope you get a ton of satisfaction and enjoyment from it! :cool:

SamG.
September 3, 2008, 11:09 PM
Well it's a lot of hard work to get gun at this age. I'm fourteen myself (I'll be 15 in October) Believe me I know. I've worked my butt of to get my growing collection of a Rock River Arms AR15, Mosin Nagant, and my Maverick 88shotgun. It'll be a heck of a lot easier when I get a job next summer, as it is hard to get enough money from yardwork and holidays. I think you'll have great luck with the Maverick. Anyway I love to see good kids these days working hard.
Sam

Blue Brick
September 3, 2008, 11:59 PM
+1 Mossberg

poppeye
September 4, 2008, 10:27 AM
all 870

please dont buy this gun! but how is this one?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=109126559
or this one
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=109087168
this one is prefered.

this one?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108646985

poppeye
September 4, 2008, 10:33 AM
sorry for double posting put this isnt an 870 its a franchi what do you think?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108933990

and a remington
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108967116

semi auto

Vicious-Peanut
September 4, 2008, 08:11 PM
Either the 500 or the 870. Which one makes no difference. I went to Gander Mountain and shouldered both of them and bought the Mossberg, because it fit me better.

poppeye
September 4, 2008, 10:10 PM
if i may ask vicious-peanut but how old/much do you weigh/height.

8040Cougar
September 4, 2008, 10:12 PM
My 500 is lighter than my dads 870, both 12 gauge 28inchers, just a thought. Another thing is that you can pick up a 18.5 inch barrel for the 500 for ~67 bucks whereas you'll be looking at close to 100 for a similar 870 barrel. I love my 500 but honestly can't say which i prefer between the mossy and the rem. Just pick the one that you like the best or that you can get cheaper. I was in your position 3 years ago, and I know its tough to scrounge money at that age, but wait till you get addicted AND get a job :D

Vicious-Peanut
September 4, 2008, 11:06 PM
poppeye, I'm 20, about 6' and right around 200 lbs. Problem is the weight can be distributed many different ways, so it might not help much.

poppeye
September 5, 2008, 12:01 AM
k thanks im 5' 10 13 and 125

im leaning to the 500 rifled+smooth bore used $260

RaisedByWolves
September 5, 2008, 03:50 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=109126559



Nice wood!!!!!




im leaning to the 500 rifled+smooth bore used $260




Then again, a more verstale combo.......

Im thinking the latter is a better deal monetarily, but that 870 is a looker.

poppeye
September 5, 2008, 06:17 PM
heck ya i had it in favorites

deputy tom
September 5, 2008, 10:15 PM
I voted Maverick.You are limited on what you can spend.I believe the Maverick is the best bang for the buck.Good luck on your search.tom.:cool:

Virginian
September 5, 2008, 10:15 PM
I just got a used 870 Wingmaster in great shape for $220. Can't get a better pump gun than that at any price.

fxstchewy
September 6, 2008, 12:19 AM
My 500 Mossberg works great. Chewy

poppeye
September 6, 2008, 10:46 PM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108767841

this is it.

can you see it?
i found it brand new for $315. a bit over but its worth $25 over wood i think.

the rifleer
September 7, 2008, 01:33 AM
cant see anything here. what is it?

poppeye
September 7, 2008, 07:05 PM
it a camo mossberg combo 24" rifled, and a 28" smooth bore combo.
brand new for $302 + $15 ship.

Katana8869
September 7, 2008, 09:03 PM
Very cool. Good choice! :)

Dave McCracken
September 7, 2008, 10:55 PM
Good shotgun, now....

poppeye
September 8, 2008, 10:13 PM
k thanks yoal i think i will get the camo mossberg 500 24" rifled, and a 28" smooth bore combo.

Coreyf983
September 9, 2008, 12:50 AM
I'd vote maverick, its the least expensive, and will suit your needs just fine.

By the way, is that a 500 you're talking about?

poppeye
September 11, 2008, 11:16 AM
yes sorry
forgot that

V1K1NG0
September 11, 2008, 12:05 PM
I would say it depends on what your going to use it for. I prefer the 870 for hunting but use the 500/590 for home protection. The first shotgun I ever bought was a Mav 88 and they work. They are cheap but they get the job done. That shotgun has been dropped, kicked, left in the rain and many other things. It still shoots.

I love 870's but would never do that to them and dont think they would fall apart if I did.

In my mind though I just see the 500/590/88 as tools and the 870 as something a little more (Just my opinion).

If you want something that you can abuse and dont care about it and see it as just a tool then get a 500/590/88. If you want something more get an 870.

lloydkristmas
September 11, 2008, 05:22 PM
I just picked up a Top-folding stock Maverick 88 for $75 bucks. No lie. Works great and makes a good home defense gun. Dont know if you can find a deal that good, but they are out there. I'd vote the Maverick. Brand new ones are like 150-160, and they work just as good as the Mossberg, and probably as good as the 870 also. Plus, the less you spend on the gun the more you can spend on ammo and things to shoot at :)

poppeye
September 12, 2008, 11:19 AM
walmart has a wood maverick for 189
and a wood mossberg for 208 i didnt lnow they sold wood

JImbothefiveth
October 17, 2008, 08:33 PM
I found this thread, and I thought I'd say: stay away from 12 gauge. I am over 6 feet tall, and am a martial arts enthusiast, and I find the 12 gauge recoil very unpleasant, it would be even worse for a 13 year-old.

heavyshooter
October 18, 2008, 09:51 PM
"I found this thread, and I thought I'd say: stay away from 12 gauge. I am over 6 feet tall, and am a martial arts enthusiast, and I find the 12 gauge recoil very unpleasant, it would be even worse for a 13 year-old." -- JImbothefiveth

He can handle the Low Recoil ammo made by Remington and Federal.

coyotehitman
October 28, 2008, 05:26 PM
I have been shooting 12 gauge, with a plastic butt plate instead of a recoil pad, since I was a scrawny 12 year old weighing a whopping 105 lbs.

Buy 12 if you want 12, buy 20 if you want 20, I have never found recoil an issue.

P.S. Dicks has the sale running on Mossberg 500 combos right now and @ 250.00 it cannot be beat. This sale runs once a year so if you are serious about buying, now is the time.

ndh87
October 29, 2008, 12:27 AM
I have a Mossberg Maverick 88 that i bought when i was 18. It has been my designated truck/beater gun for the last 3 years. Never had a failure of any kind. And cant beat the price.

I just bought a Mossberg 590 with bayonet mount. Had an 870, kept jamming. Personally i like the mossbergs better.

sherman123
October 29, 2008, 01:22 AM
i love the 870 but the mavrick 88 is alot more economical and youll have more money for shells and whatnot. I alos bought my maverick at 18 and havent had a problem with it in four years. I just took it rabbit hunting a few weeks ago and it doubles for HD til i get the stock replaced on my 870. Another plus is being able to use mossberg 500 barrels in the gun.

Defense Minister
October 29, 2008, 01:22 AM
I shoot a 500 and love it. Just don't overaccessorize your inexpensive shotgun. If you haven't made a purchase yet, and you are near a Big 5 store, they have some smokin' deals the day after Thanksgiving if you don't mind fighting the crowds. Good Luck!

P.S. If you run for President some day, be sure to use "poppeye" for your middle name so we'll know it's you and cast our votes accordingly.:)

bigcim
October 31, 2008, 05:43 AM
8040Cougar
My 500 is lighter than my dads 870, both 12 gauge 28inchers, just a thought. Another thing is that you can pick up a 18.5 inch barrel for the 500 for ~67 bucks whereas you'll be looking at close to 100 for a similar 870 barrel. I love my 500 but honestly can't say which i prefer between the mossy and the rem. Just pick the one that you like the best or that you can get cheaper. I was in your position 3 years ago, and I know its tough to scrounge money at that age, but wait till you get addicted AND get a job
Does anyone know were to get barrels for this price

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