Dirty Harry 'Magnum Force' and the BG Guns?


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Flame Red
September 3, 2008, 05:05 PM
I am sure that a lot of us are enjoying the five Dirty Harry movies all this week on AMC. I was watching Magnum Force intently last night. We all know Harry used a S&W M29, but what did the bad guys (or were they the good guys?) use (David Soul)? I could not tell if they were Colt Pythons or S&W.

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Cosmoline
September 3, 2008, 05:08 PM
Colt Pythons if memory serves.

printcraft
September 3, 2008, 05:11 PM
One part were the motor cop, Davis I think, uses a silencer on his revolver
to shoot another cop. I thought that revolvers were hard or impossible to silence due to cylinder gap with the exception of the old Nagant with a
sealed gap or something?

Rugerlvr
September 3, 2008, 05:14 PM
4" Pythons.

Tommygunn
September 3, 2008, 06:43 PM
One part were the motor cop, Davis I think, uses a silencer on his revolver
to shoot another cop. I thought that revolvers were hard or impossible to silence due to cylinder gap with the exception of the old Nagant with a
sealed gap or something?



Correct; Revolvers usually cannot be silenced because there's a gap between the cylinder & barrel. The 1895 Nagant cammed the cylinder forward, and with the type of ammo it used, with the bullet seated into the case and a collar above the bullet, it theoretically sealed the gap.
Also, IIRC Wesson arms made a revolver for covert use that allowed the barrel to be screwed down to achieve the same effect.
But generally speaking, trying to silence revolvers is a solution for a non-existant problem, if you go to semiautos.

tuna
September 3, 2008, 06:55 PM
I've always wondered about putting a suppressor (jest ta show I ain't ignant 'bout these things) on a revolver. I know they won't be as efficient as a semi - and I also know that rven semi's aren't completley quieted, but would a suppressed revolver be quiet enough in say .38 or .44 special to use outside without ear protection? Always wondered that...

feedthehogs
September 3, 2008, 08:16 PM
Revolvers usually cannot be silenced because there's a gap between the cylinder & barrel

Try a nice fat down pillow.

Black Knight
September 3, 2008, 08:26 PM
Like others said the four motor officers carried 4" Colt Pythons. Hal Holbrook who play Lt. Briggs carried a 2 1/2" S&W model 19. I have the Dirty Harry DVD set and watched it last night as well.

loneviking
September 3, 2008, 11:55 PM
One of my favorite series! Where ALL the cops were carrying revolvers for at least the first three movies. It's like time tripping for me as I lived in the Bay Area during the time that the first movie was filmed. My bus was one of those that had armed guards on it because of threats from the Zodiac killer. It's a bit sad to see how things used to be and to know how far downhill they've gone in 'Frisco over the last 40 years.

Hardtarget
September 4, 2008, 01:15 AM
I noticed "Feedthehogs" suggested a down pillow. Oddly enough, I can attest to the effectivness of that technique. Late on evening I though I heard a poodle bark...you know, that little squeaky bark of a toy poodle. Next day we found his girlfriends car had been shot several times. So, it wasn't silent...but it didn't sound like a gun, either.

I don't think I'll think "small dog bark" next time.

Mark.

Drgong
September 4, 2008, 08:20 AM
IIRC Wesson arms made a revolver for covert use that allowed the barrel to be screwed down to achieve the same effect.
But generally speaking, trying to silence revolvers is a solution for a non-existant problem, if you go to semiautos.

Unless you do not want any brass laying on the ground at site of the shooting. Why the Soviet intel services used it once or twice...

Flame Red
September 4, 2008, 09:56 AM
It's a bit sad to see how things used to be and to know how far downhill they've gone in 'Frisco over the last 40 years.

Ahmen to that brother - they seemed to have successfully ruined one of America's great cities. I refuse to go there ever.

I say bring back Harry to clean out the weirdos, freaks and preverts there and return it to its former glory.

Tommygunn
September 4, 2008, 12:21 PM
Unless you do not want any brass laying on the ground at site of the shooting. Why the Soviet intel services used it once or twice...

Semiautos really devoted to covert use with silencers have a slidelock so the gun won't eject the empty. This is done because even the slide reciprocation causes noise, and allows some to escape with the case.
This reduces the handgun to basically a manual repeater but it does eliminate the flying case.
Of course, one could always pick up the empty(s).

Phil DeGraves
September 4, 2008, 12:53 PM
Semiautos really devoted to covert use with silencers have a slidelock so the gun won't eject the empty.

Also, on a locked breech firearm like the 1911, the cartridge just may not have the recoil impetus to reliably cycle the slide with the extra weight of the suppressor attached.

That's why most suppressed handguns are low powered blowbacks like the .22, .32 or .380.

rcmodel
September 4, 2008, 12:59 PM
Speaking of cops carrying revolvers.

I was watching COPS on TV last night and it appears the Ft. Worth, I think? police are still using S&W revolvers.

Also thought I saw one guy with a holstered 1911 with what might have been ivory grips. Just got a glimpse of it.

Anyone know for sure what their gun policy is?

rcmodel

Mrs. Armoredman
September 4, 2008, 01:06 PM
I love the Dirty Harry series. Clint Eastwood is my hero. He kicks butt with the best of them. I like his 44 mag. he uses or am I wrong?

Lewis130
September 4, 2008, 01:06 PM
The bad guy had a P38 in the original.

Ah, the times before tacticool...

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