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RyanM
September 3, 2008, 05:56 PM
If I moved to Maryland, what kind of indignities would I need to endure, as a gun owner? Registration of already-owned handguns? Neutered magazines? AWB? I already know that a CCW permit would never happen.

I've told myself I'd never move to one of "those" states, but need for a job and to still be somewhat close to family may win out in the end. The economy in western PA is terrible.

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Norton
September 3, 2008, 07:17 PM
Hi Ryan,

The only thing that is "verboten" are so-called assault pistols as defined by this list:

An assault pistol is defined as any of the following specified firearms or their copies regardless of which company produced and manufactured the firearm:

AA Arms AP-9 semi-automatics
Bushmaster semi-automatic pistol;
Claridge HI-TEC, semi-automatic pistol;
D Max Industries semi-automatic pistol;
Encom MK-IV, MP-9, MP-45 semi-automatic pistols;
Heckler and Koch semi-automatic pistol SP-89;
Holmes MP-83 semi-automatic pistol;
Ingram MAC 10/11 semi-automatic pistol and any variation including the Partisan Avenger and the SWD Cobray;
Intratec TEC-9/DC-9 in any centerfire variation;
P.A.W.S. type semi-automatic pistol;
Skorpion semi-automatic pistol;
Spectre double action semi-automatic pistol (Sile, F.I.E., Mitchell);
UZI semi-automatic pistol;
Weaver Arms semi-automatic Nighthawk pistol; and
Wilkinson semi-automatic "Linda" pistol.

Any handguns that you already own are not subject to any registration, though the MD State Police will allow you to voluntarily register them if you feel the need to :rolleyes:

We have the regulated long gun list which treats purchases like handguns.

Handguns and regulated long guns are one a month and have a 7 day waiting period.

Magazine restrictions affect only purchase/transfer within the state. The law permits possession of 30 rounds, etc if transferred outside the state lines.

RyanM
September 3, 2008, 07:34 PM
That's not quite as bad as I thought. Though I kind of do want to buy an MPA10. How many long guns are on the regulated list, too many for one post?

And just so I understand the magazine capacity thing, an MD resident can only purchase magazines of 30 rounds or lower capacity (whether from a source in MD or outside of it), but someone moving to MD from another state can bring with them whatever size magazines they want?

In other news, I found a job in NH that I'm qualified for, and I'm going to give them a call tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Norton
September 3, 2008, 07:42 PM
Hi Ryan,

It's not as bad as some places, not as good as a lot of others but we try the best we can to improve things.

The regulated long gun list is as follows:

5-101(p) Assault weapon.- "Assault weapon" means any of the following specific
firearms or their copies regardless of which company produced and manufactured that
firearm:

( 1 ) American Arms Spectre da Semiautomatic carbine
( 2 ) AK-47 in all forms
( 3 ) Algimec AGM-1 type semi-auto
( 4 ) AR 100 type semi-auto
( 5 ) AR 180 type semi-auto
( 6 ) Argentine L.S.R. semi-auto
( 7 ) Australian Automatic Arms SAR type semi-auto
( 8 ) Auto-Ordnance Thompson M1 and 1927 semi-automatics
( 9 ) Barrett light .50 cal. semi-auto
(10) Beretta AR70 type semi-auto
(11) Bushmaster semi-auto rifle
(12) Calico models M-100 and M-900
(13) CIS SR 88 type semi-auto
(14) Claridge HI TEC C-9 carbines
(15) Colt AR-15, CAR-15, and all imitations except Colt AR-15 Sporter H-BAR rifle
(16) Daewoo MAX 1 and MAX 2, aka AR 100, 110C, K-1, and K-2
(17) Dragunov Chinese made semi-auto
(18) Famas semi-auto (.223 caliber)
(19) Feather AT-9 semi-auto
(20) FN LAR and FN FAL assault rifle
(21) FNC semi-auto type carbine
(22) F.I.E./Franchi LAW 12 and SPAS 12 assault shotgun
(23) Steyr-AUG-SA semi-auto
(24) Galil models AR and ARM semi-auto
(25) Heckler and KOCH HK-91 A3, HK-93 A2, HK-94 A2 and A3
(26) Holmes model 88 shotgun
(27) Avtomat Kalashnikov semiautomatic rifle in any format
(28) Manchester Arms "Commando" MK-45, MK-9
(29) Mandell TAC-1 semi-auto carbine
(30) Mossberg model 500 Bullpup assault shotgun
(31) Sterling Mark 6 (32) P.A.W.S. carbine
(33) Ruger mini-14 folding stock model (.223 caliber)
(34) SIG 550/551 assault rifle (.223 caliber)
(35) SKS with detachable magazine
(36) AP-74 Commando type semi-auto

I apologize for lack of clarity on the magazines.....you may only transfer/purchase 20 rounds or less within state lines. The law says nothing of possession so you may purchase out of state and bring them in.

If you end up in NH, be sure to PM me. I can point you to at least one shooter up there if you live in the part of the state where he is.

Pat-inCO
September 3, 2008, 07:48 PM
http://www.guncite.com/

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Those are but three of the first page of results from a Google Search.

ColinthePilot
September 3, 2008, 07:59 PM
I'm glad I moved out of Maryland. If I hadn't gone to college in FL, I wouldn't be the gun nut I am today. Texas is an awesome country. :)

wdlsguy
September 3, 2008, 08:18 PM
CLEO signatures for NFA paperwork are supposedly shall-issue through the Maryland State Police. ;)

Threeband
September 3, 2008, 08:37 PM
You can't buy a magazine over 20 rounds here, but you can own them, use them, and import them for personal use. Just make a short drive to a neighboring state (Pretty much every place in Maryland is within 30 miles of another state), buy all the 30 rounders you want, and bring 'em back. Perfectly legal. Just don't pick up any for your friends.

No "assualt weapon ban". Flash hiders, bayo lugs, pistol-grip stocks are fine.
There is that list of banned "assault pistols".

Machine guns are OK also. Just meet federal requirements, and pay an extra $10 each-and-every-year to the leeches in Annapolis.

Of course no silly "hollow point ammunition ban" such as New Jersey has.

Handguns have to be on a list of approved models. This is the so called "Saturday Night Special" ban from 20 years ago. Most seem to be "approved" however, so it's not quite as bad as it sounds. High Points and Kel-Tec P380s are ok, for instance. Anyway, here's a link to the list:
http://www.mdsp.org/services/handgun.asp

Handguns and certain listed self-loading rifles (that is, so called "assault rifles") are treated as "restricted firearms". These require a Maryland State Police ("MSP") background check and a 7 day waiting period. After seven days, the store can legally release the weapon even if they have not heard back from the MSP. In practice, some stores will release it, some won't, but I think The MSP usually doesn't drag their feet too badly. One of the bigger dealers recently told me he usually gets the "NOT DISAPPROVED" (insulting, huh?) response in two days or so.

AR 15 HBARs are NOT restricted. You can buy a Bushmaster Heavy Barrel Carbine, or any other HBAR "cash and carry", just like any other rifle.

There's a limit of 12 restricted firearms per year, pretty much one-per-month, but supposedly you can get more in a single month if there's a special sale price or something, as long as you don't exceed 12 per year.

These restrictions DO NOT APPLY to Registered Collectors. You can buy as many "restricted" firearms as you want, with no waiting period, if you file a simple form with the MSP registering yourself as a collector. Some of us don't feel like registering ourselves, but it's less onerous than the self-registration every CCW permit holder does outside of Alaska and New Hampshire.

Handguns are NOT registered (but I suspect "they" have a list), and you don't need a permit to buy one as is required in some states (viz North Carolina). ("Not fair!" someone cries out. That requirement doesn't apply to Tarheels with a CCW!" And Maryland's restrictions are waived for anyone who sends in this one-time form: http://www.mdsp.org/services/handgun.asp

So Maryland Gun Laws Suck, but not as badly as most seem to think. Not as bad as New Jersey or Massachussets, and I am NOT bashing any other state here, or even Britain or Germany, for that matter. I do feel a bit like Uncle Tom saying all this, though. "Ol' Massa don" whip me so bad. Massa over at the nex' Plantation, he whip his slaves twice as bad!"

Perhaps the worst thing here: it is nearly impossible to get a Concealed Carry Permit. Maryland is the textbook example of what's wrong with "May issue", as opposed to "Shall Issue." You have to have a proven need to carry, such as being a jeweler who regularly carries bags of diamonds around. Even then, you have to fight, fight, fight the MSP through multiple rejections and appeals, before being grudgingly granted a limited permit. (I understand this doesn't apply if you make large campaign contributions to the right politicians.)

But hey, pepper spray is legal, unlike some places.

But really, the WORST thing about Maryland is NOT the gun laws, but the general political climate. Maryland is a Corrupt, One Party (guess which party!) State. Our taxes are outrageous, and they keep going up. This is a very prosperous state, and there is a lot of work here, but it is a Cesspool of Liberalism. More and more people are fleeing, and many live just across the State Line and put up with long commutes to Maryland jobs.

One of the best things about Maryland is the State Line is never more than 30 miles away. (Except for I think one small spot in the middle of the Chesapeake Bay.)


Check out this site for more information:

http://www.mdshooters.com/

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