Florida Non-Resident Question
El Tejon
January 14, 2003, 12:32 PM
Gentlemen,
1) Regarding Question #6, "training documentation", the instruction pamphlet does not specify documentation for the gun skuls--Gunsite, TR, Inc., YFA, LFI, et al. Are these permissible?
2) Should I anticipate any delay if I send multiple documents--214, NRA skuls, or gun skuls? Or should I just send one?
Any difficulties that I should be advised of for the non-resident license procedure? I thank you in advance for your assistance and time.
Shoot straight,
Kirk
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jimcon
January 14, 2003, 12:49 PM
My application is pending so I can not answer all of your questions. On the subject of training documentation, I know that they will accept Frontsight and assume that they will accept any of the others that you listed
Hkmp5sd
January 14, 2003, 12:59 PM
They only require a 4 hour basic gun safety course. The courses listed more than meet that. They also accept a DD214 if you have one of those.
Dave P
January 14, 2003, 01:12 PM
Just send them your most recent certificate - I think they will be fine with anything reasonable.
80fl
January 14, 2003, 03:15 PM
Is Florida considered a "shall issue" state?
It strikes me as odd that States are listed as "shall issue" but then REQUIRE other attendant training.
El Tejon
January 14, 2003, 03:33 PM
You SHALL train, and they SHALL issue.:D
80fl, I know what you mean. I'm glad I do not reside in such a state with all these regs, but Florida's game so I pay or I do not play.
Gentlemen, thanks for the help. Nothing tricky to it???
Hkmp5sd
January 14, 2003, 05:36 PM
Nothing tricky to it???
Nope, pretty straight forward. Unless you and Charles Manson have the same social security number, you're good to go.
BogBabe
January 14, 2003, 09:55 PM
Just send them your most recent certificate - I think they will be fine with anything reasonable.
It doesn't even have to be particularly recent. I took a firearm safety class when I acquired my first gun -- back in the late 80s, before Fla. even had it's shall-issue law. When I applied for my CCW about 3 years ago, I sent in the certificate from that class, and it was accepted just fine.
G-Raptor
January 14, 2003, 10:15 PM
I did some research on this last fall for an on-site class we ran here.
According to Florida law:
"- Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Department of State;
OR
- Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state certified or National Rifle Association certified firearms instructor; "
If you have a 214, just send that.
Lennyjoe
January 15, 2003, 04:58 AM
Sent them my CCW training certificate from Az and my AF Form 522, USAF Ground Weapons Training Certificate.
Permit is pending. Just sent it out last week. Hopefully I will get it back before I get there in June.
BogBabe
January 15, 2003, 05:57 AM
Hopefully I will get it back before I get there in June.
Being as this is only mid-January, I'll be surprised if you don't have it by March.
Gophfer
January 17, 2003, 05:16 PM
My wife got hers based on an out of state hunter safety class.
dinosaur
January 17, 2003, 08:13 PM
What`s even stranger is Pa. & Fl. now have reciprocity even though Pa. has no training requirement.
Saved me 124 bucks!:neener:
Greybeard
January 17, 2003, 09:27 PM
Glad to see ya getting around to it.
Quote: "Any difficulties that I should be advised of?"
Rejection of fingerprint card is most a common delay, at least in Tejas. Best to get fingerprinting done by someone who does it frequently. To avoid smudging, fill in the blanks at top of card(s)first and get "rolled" last.
CleverNickname
January 17, 2003, 09:28 PM
When I got my FL non-resident a couple months ago, the training document I used was a notarized letter from my IDPA club saying that I had demonstrated I could safely operate a handgun.
El Tejon
January 18, 2003, 08:50 AM
Lady and Gentlemen,
Thanks for all the comments. Sent it out Friday.
Grey, thanks for lighting the fire under me. I did it kicking and screaming at the injustice of it all, but always better to be legal than not. Not to worry the lady doing my fingerprints at the Sheriff's department, sees me frequently for this kind of thing.:)
dino, oh, go ahead and rub it in. Geez. :scrutiny:
willp58
January 18, 2003, 08:13 PM
Dinosaur wrote:
......What`s even stranger is Pa. & Fl. now have reciprocity even though Pa. has no training requirement......
This is true. Let's take it one more step..
I am a NYS resident with the lifetime CCW permit. Also have the CCW permit for PA. Does the non-resident permit for PA give me the reciprocal CCW for FL??
glirette
January 19, 2003, 05:40 AM
I am a NYS resident with the lifetime CCW permit. Also have the CCW permit for PA. Does the non-resident permit for PA give me the reciprocal CCW for FL??
No, each state regulates the carrying of arms, for some states this is valid. For Florida you must either have a Florida CWL or a permit in your home state that Florida has a recipical agreement with.
You can however be a resident of Kansas for example and obtain a Florida CWL and carry in Texas.
As far as the training requirements are concerned for Florida
I have written some of this info up at my web site, links below
The first link is copied directly from Florida law, I provided mutiple proofs for mine, wasn't an issue.
Florida training requirements (http://www.dfwgunsafety.com/CCW_Classes/florida_ccw.htm)
my Florida info page (http://www.dfwgunsafety.com/States/shall_issue/Florida/florida.htm)
dinosaur
January 19, 2003, 06:25 AM
Uh, El, you do realize that about the time you receive your Fl. permit, they`ll reciprocate with Indiana. :banghead: :evil: :neener: :D
El Tejon
January 19, 2003, 11:39 AM
dino, man, now that's just mean. However, I do not think there is any worry about Tejas signing the agreement soon.
Upon the election of NRA "A"-rated Steve Carter to the Indiana Office of the Attorney General, I quickly contacted the head of one of his sections who I had known in undergrad. Carter was on board.
We quickly drafted an agreement modeled on God's Waiting Room's agreement with Tejas. Carter quickly signed it and sent it to the Tejas Department of Public Safety.
There it hit a stone wall. He never saw it. He saw it but it's on his to do list. I called but I got the "Damn Yankee" runaround. "Well, I say, I say, we can't sign an agreement with y'all because, um, er, um . . . .":banghead: It could still be on his desk for all I know.
Sigh, life's not fair so with the gentle prompting (Hey, stupid, get to work!) of a fellow THR member I sent in the non-resident Florida application, kicking and screaming all the way to the mail chute. Live and learn.
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