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brigadier
September 4, 2008, 05:36 PM
I want to build an M-14 in one of the really big rifle calibers like .300 win mag or .338 Remington Ultra Magnum.
I already figured out how to do both, but will need an M-1 Garand to start with. Thing is, I am not rich and would need to start with something not too pricey. Luckily, because of the nature of the project, it would not need to be a very fancy start either. Most of the parts would have to be modded, but I would still need pretty much all of the basics.
I was thinking about getting a receiver and a parts kit, but don't really know where to look.

Do any of you have any ideas how to get started on this without spending allot of $?

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Rugerlvr
September 4, 2008, 05:40 PM
CMP rack grade is around $500.

highorder
September 4, 2008, 05:41 PM
You could ask the people that have done it. :)

http://www.gokart.net/shop-utopia/mccann/rifles/garand/garand.html

VegasOPM
September 4, 2008, 05:41 PM
Google "CMP Rifles". They sell "rack grade" rifles with lousy bores for pretty reasonable and I'm pretty sure that they sell the stripped receivers as well. There are some hoops to go through just to get one, but none of the hoops are too expensive and most you should have anyway. (NRA membership, club affiliation, competition experience).

Rugerlvr
September 4, 2008, 05:44 PM
VegasOPM,

It's even easier than that to order from the CMP (http://www.odcmp.com). You join the Garand Collector's Assn for $25, then you can use your hunter's safety, CCW, DD214, or other proof of "Marksmanship activity" INCLUDING a form that you can print right off their website listing basic skills, take to your local range and have the range safety officer sign off on your proficiency.

Then be a U.S. Citizen, and that's it. Oh, and your form has to be notarized.

brigadier
September 4, 2008, 09:18 PM
You could ask the people that have done it.

I am afraid mine is a little different. Mine is an M-14 design. If I had the $, I would buy one of their rifles and use it to do the adaptation on as they accomplish half the work.
However, my rifle idea involves a detachable magazine and standard M-14 sites and muzzle break (probably something like a smith compensator.
Also, I am somewhat bent on the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, which involves extensive adaptation to the bolt and trigger group, something I could never hope to get their help on.
I am also going to try and reduce some of the guns weight by trimming safe areas. That's very fun and easy for me to do but would cost a fortune to get anyone else to do it.

It's even easier than that to order from the CMP. You join the Garand Collector's Assn for $25, then you can use your hunter's safety, CCW, DD214, or other proof of "Marksmanship activity" INCLUDING a form that you can print right off their website listing basic skills, take to your local range and have the range safety officer sign off on your proficiency.

I think I'll do just that.

paintballdude902
September 4, 2008, 09:24 PM
i would buy a full garand
they are available for around 250

if you have a dalorian and a flux capaciter

other wise cmp the cheapest they have is 450

dmazur
September 4, 2008, 09:49 PM
Here's a link to a company that's done it already. You might try sending them email to see if they will share any secrets with you.

From what I understand, "hot-rodding" a Garand isn't as easy as it looks, and these guys have it figured out.

http://www.mccannindustries.com/rifles/garand/garand.html

AmishFury
September 4, 2008, 11:05 PM
if you're planning to turn a garand into something else i suggest getting a stripped receiver as a starting point

brigadier
September 5, 2008, 04:14 AM
if you're planning to turn a garand into something else i suggest getting a stripped receiver as a starting point

I agree with you. If I end up getting a working gun, I will break it down to ground zero before rebuilding it. A working gun is a plus since you have all the working parts you need (it can be a real pain to have to go out and buy standard tiny parts individually) plus you have a working action for reference if you need to figure out how something works and how to come up with a working system based on it.
However, once rebuilding starts, I agree, especially since total replacement of the barrel is needed, that starting from ground zero is important.

ocabj
September 5, 2008, 04:18 AM
if you have a dalorian and a flux capaciter

My Delorean and Flux Capacitor are working fine, but my Mr. Fusion is on the fritz and I can't get any plutonium. Can't get the 1.21 Gigawatts generated.

Mp7
September 5, 2008, 04:24 AM
OMG

they make a Garand in 458???

http://www.gokart.net/shop-utopia/mccann/rifles/458garand/458consm.jpg

..shock & awe.

Swampy
September 5, 2008, 08:39 AM
i would buy a full garand
they are available for around 250

!!! ??? !!!

WHERE !!!.... have you seen an M1, any M1, for 250 in the last 10 years???

Very curious to know.....

Best,
Swampy

Garands forever

Mr White
September 5, 2008, 09:36 AM
Swampy, I think you missed the sarcasm tag in his post. Not hard to do since it was disguised as if you have a dalorian and a flux capaciter Maybe the bad spelling threw you off.

Back to the Future?...Time travel?

Swampy
September 5, 2008, 09:54 AM
Maybe the bad spelling threw you off.

Back to the Future?...Time travel?

Sorry..... Don't get the reference. If this is something that comes from Hollywood I try hard not to waste brain cells storing info on it..... i.e. useless baggage.

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever

Shade00
September 5, 2008, 10:56 AM
I was looking at CMP the other day. Are the rack grade rifles really that bad?

Mr White
September 5, 2008, 11:10 AM
Swampy, Back to the Future was a popular movie from the 80's where a kid went back in time and influenced events that changed his life The time machine was invented by an eccentric professor and was a DeLorean car with a device called a Flux Capacitor. I thought everyone knew that. :)

AmishFury
September 5, 2008, 12:44 PM
My Delorean and Flux Capacitor are working fine, but my Mr. Fusion is on the fritz and I can't get any plutonium. Can't get the 1.21 Gigawatts generated

get yourself a buttload of cable, a lightning rod, and a large hook

wait for a good lightning storm

Rugerlvr
September 5, 2008, 01:07 PM
I was looking at CMP the other day. Are the rack grade rifles really that bad?

I think they're way conservative when grading. Lots of stories on the CMP forums tell about getting rifles that are way better than the supposed grade. I bought a correct grade, and to my eye, it almost looks unissued.

Shade00
September 6, 2008, 12:12 AM
Interesting. I've been thinking about an M1 Carbine or Garand, but could only have considered a Carbine unless I went with the CMP Garand. Fortunately my private range is a qualifying ODCMP club - so as soon as I get my funds sorted, I think I might be getting a Garand.

NotSoFast
September 6, 2008, 02:09 AM
I bought a Service grade M1 Garand from CMP for $595. The extra above the rack grade is worth it. In rack grade you'll either get a good looking, worn out rifle or a junky looking good shooter. For the extra $100 you get a good shooter that looks decent to boot.

dmftoy1
September 6, 2008, 08:16 AM
Yeah, I know that the service grades are nice, but I've been at shoots where the rack grades shooting next to me were shooting alot better than I was . . .I don't know that they're all capable of it, but the guys next to me were holding the black at 200 yards w/o any problems.

FWIW.

Regards,
Dave

HorseSoldier
September 6, 2008, 01:35 PM
I think they're way conservative when grading. Lots of stories on the CMP forums tell about getting rifles that are way better than the supposed grade. I bought a correct grade, and to my eye, it almost looks unissued.


Both the Field Grades I've bought from them were in better condition than their description on the website would lead you to believe.

CMP also sells Rack Grades without wooden furniture and stripped receivers for less money than a full rack grade.

Sunray
September 6, 2008, 01:46 PM
"...will need an M-1 Garand to start with..." It'd take major reworking to convert an M1 receiver to mag feeding. And a sizeable chunk of money.
"into a rifle very capable of taking every game animal on the North American continent." Any .30-06 will do that.

HB
September 6, 2008, 02:06 PM
You would destroy an American Icon to make some silly sniper rifle :barf:

















If this was a mosin thread everyone would be screaming destroyer of history. :evil:

I would just get a m1a reciever because, as stated above, garands are not m-14s

HB

brigadier
September 9, 2008, 10:27 PM
"...will need an M-1 Garand to start with..." It'd take major reworking to convert an M1 receiver to mag feeding. And a sizeable chunk of money.
"into a rifle very capable of taking every game animal on the North American continent." Any .30-06 will do that.

I have already worked out how to do it.
I am aiming for range. If I just want something that will drop any land animal, I'd just get a regular old M-14.

You would destroy an American Icon to make some silly sniper rifle.

If this was a mosin thread everyone would be screaming destroyer of history.

I would just get a m1a reciever because, as stated above, garands are not m-14s

I guess I am not winning your favor by saying this, but icons mean nothing to me. You are talking to someone who traded a Mauser Broombhandle for a CZ-52 and is still happy with the deal.

SaMx
September 10, 2008, 01:09 AM
I hope you got some money out of that trade too.

brigadier
September 10, 2008, 07:11 AM
Nope. Just a gun and a bunch of ammo.

brigadier
June 2, 2009, 07:16 AM
I know this is an old thread. I only found it because I was cleaning my bookmarks, so I will revive it rather then start a new one.

By incredible luck, I finally got an M-1 Garand. It's a Springfield made in 1945. Funny thing is, I got it for $200. She came without any furniture, but it happened to be close to my birthday at the time and you can probably guess what happened from there.

Don't worry though guys. I don't intend to use this one for the project. I am digging the price and availability of .30-06 too much right now. I would rather just build that particular project gun over time in pieces.

Anyway, here she is:


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