slinging 527 carbine


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Austinite
September 4, 2008, 06:27 PM
I've got a CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39 that I use for deer hunting. It utilizes a 5 round magazine that extends past the bottom of the rifle. When I sling this carbine with the muzzle up, the magazine bites into my back and is quite uncomfortable. It is not a problem when I sling it muzzle down, but I'm not a fan of carrying in that manner.

What specific slings or sling systems do other CZ 527 Carbine owners utilize?

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FMJMIKE
September 4, 2008, 09:34 PM
Off Topic - How do you like your rifle ? Is it scoped ??? How is the accuracy ??? TIA............

goon
September 4, 2008, 09:58 PM
Not a CZ but I ran into a similar problem with my little NEF 20 gauge. Since I don't have an adequate handgun for carry while in the woods yet I often take it loaded with slugs for defense against anything that might want to eat me.
Anyhow, I've found that the old USGI OD green canvas sling seems to work well. A leather sling is stiff enough to keep hold it rigidly but the canvas will flex and allow the gun to lay on it's side, just about flat across my back. It's not at all uncomfortable with this sling.

Austinite
September 5, 2008, 01:46 AM
Thanks, goon. The more flexible sling allowing the rifle to sit flat makes sense. I will definitely try it.

FMJMike,

I am a HUGE fan of this rifle. It's very well made, incredibly light (5 3/4 pounds without scope), and accurate enough. I've got a Leupold compact 3x9 on it with the CZ rings. Ive taken three wt does with it - all with 125 Federal SP at ranges between 50 and 100 yards. Penetration was complete on all shots but the deer around here are small (60-65 lbs dressed).

Accuracy? For 10, 3-shot groups with Federals 125 SP, my average is 1.28 inches. 3, 3-shot groups with Winchester SP average 2.13 inches. Cheap FMJ and HP loads average between 2.5 and 3 inches. The 150 gr Corbon load averages close to 3 inches which is disappointing as I wanted this to be my primary deer load.

The biggest problem I've had with it is misfires. I've had the firing spring replaced but it still doesn't like some types of ammo (Wolf 154 Sp, Barnaul 123 sp, Precision Ammo 123 V-max). I sent it back to the factory today to get this problem fixed.

stubbicatt
September 5, 2008, 02:05 AM
I have some sort of nylon sling on my 527, which I use exclusively for carrying the rifle. It isn't used for supported fire.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/stubbicatt/IMG_0208.jpg

It has a broad padded section to carry the weight of a rifle, and one side of the wide section has some sort of material that is tacky or resistant to slippage.

chris in va
September 5, 2008, 02:57 AM
The biggest problem I've had with it is misfires. I've had the firing spring replaced but it still doesn't like some types of ammo (Wolf 154 Sp, Barnaul 123 sp, Precision Ammo 123 V-max). I sent it back to the factory today to get this problem fixed

Same here. Doesn't strike the primer hard enough, even with a 'new' spring. Let me know if they got it fixed for you and what was done.

And +1 on the web sling, I used it for Appleseed last year.

FMJMIKE
September 5, 2008, 10:20 AM
Darn.........I am sorry to hear about the misfires. I was seriously considering buying one. I was going to do some cheap shooting with the Russian steel cased ammo. Thanks for your reply.
:cool:

rangerruck
September 5, 2008, 11:45 AM
I've got two , one in 223, and one in 762... they are both by far the most accurate rifles i own. I have never had a prob with either, but mine are 100%czech made, all czech markings and numbers, even cyrillic markings, with the funny bbl length, something like 16.1 or 16.7 inches. anyway, no probs ever, and the x39 even makes the most crap ammo shoot moa out to 100 yds at least... 'chef recommends'.-Kastanza or , " If you have the means, I highly suggest you pick one up!" - Ferris Bueller.

FMJMIKE
September 5, 2008, 11:06 PM
Do you have a scope on yours ??? photos please.......:D

ar10
September 5, 2008, 11:24 PM
Sling. I have a 20.00 cheapo I got from Gander Mtn a yr ago. Works fine and it's not leather. And I always carry mine muzzle down. It's just easier to get at that way. Besides it's a carbine and isn't that long or heavy.
I've dumped a lot of rounds, brass, steel, and reloads. Never had ha problem. Because it's a little light weight it does kick a little more than the .223 version.
For a carbine it's about the most accurate I've ever shot, and I shoot 100, 200, and 300yds. I also have a scope, one of those cheap Bushnell's that came with a really cheap spotting scope.

What I would like to see is a 10 or 15 rnd mag for it.

rangerruck
September 6, 2008, 04:02 AM
here is my schwing 223 version, stand back everyone...
oh yeah, this is what id does at 100 yds.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/e82c12fd.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/53557d05.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics016.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics015.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics002.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics008.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics007.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/pmullineaux/czpics006.jpg

also, some of those marks are scratched through pen markings.
the rings/mounts are high, you will need them, they are also factory cz.
they are the best to use.
the scope is a Tasco varmint 6x24x42.
as you can see, since these have a slow 1/12 twist, it starts getting a
little hairy with the 62 grainers, but the group is still under 1 inch at 100 yds.
and finally yes, some of those 1 hole groups are 2 , 3 , and 4 shots.
they are mostly 5 shot groups.
The 762 shoots nearly as good as this, with crap ammo. the best ammo above
is the winny white box 45 grainers, the black hills regular 55 grain blue box.
even the plain jane remmy yellow/green box did quite well.
for some reason, the wolf 62 grain, shot better than the wolf 55 grain...

woof
September 6, 2008, 09:36 AM
I have 2, .223 and x39. I love them and shoot Baraul Brown Bear ammo in both and never a misfire. I would not scope mine. They just don't lend themselves well to a scope IMO. They are the most ergonomic rifle I have ever handled and every rifle doesn't need a scope.

ar10
September 7, 2008, 12:12 AM
the rings/mounts are high, you will need them, they are also factory cz.
they are the best to use.

And you know why???. Try NOT using the factory mounts. If not you'd be amazed how fast that scope will smack you in the eye. (never happened to me though, I heard it from a friend who knew a guy that knew a guy) :o:o

rangerruck
September 7, 2008, 02:06 AM
the biggest prob is the bolt handle; look how upwardly curved it is. With low rings, you will sling that handle into the rear eyepiece, every time.

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