Spare parts for ARs and AKs?


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Roadwild17
September 4, 2008, 05:31 PM
What spare parts would you keep on hand to keep an AR and AK up and running in the event of a ban, SHTF, price increases. etc... short of having a other gun?

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strat81
September 4, 2008, 05:49 PM
AR?
Bolt, cam pin, firing pin retaining pin, firing pin, and lower parts kit.

AK?
Fire control group, bolt, bolt carrier, piston.

SamG.
September 4, 2008, 05:55 PM
AR?
Bolt, cam pin, firing pin retaining pin, firing pin, and lower parts kit.

AK?
Fire control group, bolt, bolt carrier, piston.

+1
Sam

strat81
September 4, 2008, 06:21 PM
I forgot to mention:
MAGAZINES.

briansmithwins
September 4, 2008, 06:33 PM
AR?
Bolt, cam pin, firing pin retaining pin, firing pin, and lower parts kit.

AK?
Fire control group, bolt, bolt carrier, piston.

I kinda agree with your AR assessment, but how the hell do you damage the bolt carrier and piston on an AK? Use it as a tent stake?

I like to have spare firing pins and extractors for everything. If my friend's ARs are any example, have lots of firing pin retaining pins on hand. He's broken 3 in 3 different rifles. BSW

lee n. field
September 4, 2008, 06:39 PM
Any specific tools?

nalioth
September 4, 2008, 06:43 PM
You're more likely to have to replace a part on your Kalashnikov because you fumble-fingered a part down the crawdaddy hole while you had it apart for cleaning . . .


Spares aren't a bad idea ( we call this "Buying another WASR" )

RockyMtnTactical
September 4, 2008, 07:55 PM
Buy a complete spare.:)

Ian
September 5, 2008, 02:02 AM
For an AK, I would get an FCG, complete set of springs, top cover (can get dented), front sight post (potentially lost if you ever remove it), and firing pin.

Coronach
September 5, 2008, 03:04 AM
What they said.

What I'm doing for my ARs is getting a MIAD grip with the "bolt core" and just keeping a complete spare bolt and FP in each.

Mike

nicholst55
September 5, 2008, 07:14 AM
Gas rings, firing pin retaining pin, extractor spring and pin for the AR.

Ben Shepherd
September 5, 2008, 07:55 AM
What to have is covered. One thing for you to think over though.

IF I ever have to grab 'n go, right now? Which AR will I take? The one with the standard butt stock. With the standard parts kit and lube bottle in the storage compartment, with another small parts kit in the grip.

Aka Zero
September 5, 2008, 08:51 AM
Can they ban things that don't require an ffl?

I know certain flash hiders, folding stocks and such... but I don't think they can stop us from buying firing pins and bolts.

briansmithwins
September 5, 2008, 09:49 AM
For an AK, I would get an FCG, complete set of springs, top cover (can get dented), front sight post (potentially lost if you ever remove it), and firing pin.

Why would you ever remove the front sight? I'm just completely not following the logic with that one. BSW

Ian
September 5, 2008, 11:35 AM
I removed mine when I refinished the rifle (didn't lose it, though). I don't know why someone might remove it during normal use, but it's a part that costs maybe a dollar, and the rifle is near useless without it. That alone makes it seem to me like a good part to have spares of.

lee n. field
September 5, 2008, 12:22 PM
Can they ban things that don't require an ffl?


Of course they can. Whatever they can get away with.

EricTheBarbarian
September 5, 2008, 03:05 PM
barrel shrouds and bayonet lugs don't require an FFL:)

strat81
September 5, 2008, 04:59 PM
Can they ban things that don't require an ffl?
Good luck buying new 30-rd magazines from 1994-2004. Yes, they outlawed ownership of some sheetmetal and a spring.


briansmithwins, I mentioned the bolt carrier and piston because they can potentially get lost and I've seen reports of FUBARed ones because the importer/factory didn't attach them correctly.

W.E.G.
September 5, 2008, 06:19 PM
Two is one, and one is none.

That's all.

JesseL
September 5, 2008, 06:34 PM
Losing an AK carrier and piston would be almost as hard as losing the whole rifle.

For most things on the AK, if it doesn't break in the first 200 rounds it probably never will. If it does get broken somehow, you can probably fix it with a hammer and a rock.

I might stock an extra mainspring, disconnector spring, and a couple pivot pins; but beyond that you might as well just keep a spare AK around.

FMJMIKE
September 5, 2008, 09:56 PM
I own AKs because you don't need spare parts for them..........:D

ForneyRider
September 6, 2008, 10:57 PM
Spring and pin kits are available.

I snapped my bolt catch in half the first day I had the rifle. So I bought 2 more of the tactical ones. They stick out more, but are easier to find blind.

You can get a cleaning kit that fits in the A1(?) buttstock. I got a MIAD grip that you can stuff spare batteries or 3 rounds in.

and of course, extra mags.

I've heard a spare bolt assembly and gas rod are good to have. But by then, you are close to a spare gun. hmm...

Ian
September 7, 2008, 12:54 AM
I mentioned the bolt carrier and piston because they can potentially get lost and I've seen reports of FUBARed ones because the importer/factory didn't attach them correctly.

It's an AK - you can reattach the gas piston with a piece of heavy wire and hammer. Seriously. A paper clip would probably work.

beyond that you might as well just keep a spare AK around.

Find a barrel-less AMD kit for $150 (http://www.akparts.com/1307.htm) and you've got almost every part (the gas tube and lower handguard aren't standard, IIRC).

rob_s
September 8, 2008, 06:34 AM
For an AR I'd keep a complete lower parts kit and a spare complete BCG from a quality maker like LMT or BCM. Or, if my rifle came with a sub-standard BCG I'd put the quality one in the gun and keep the original as the spare.

Depending on the type of sights you use, having spares for that isn't a bad idea. If you use a battery-powered optic, spare batteries are a good idea.

For training classes I typically just take a complete spare rifle. It's easier to just go grab another gun if I need to, or have one to loan out to another shooter if necessary.

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