[caz223]

My local gun guy knows that I will buy any new .41 magnum gun I can acquire.
I have a .41 mag marlin carbine on order, and I got a message on my machine that a friends' acusport .44 mag came in, and my .41 mag was in, just like it.
I assumed he meant that my carbine was in, and of course, me and my friend went in ASAP to examine his gun, and see what was going on.
When we arrived, he ran (He has a health condition) into the back and brought out TWO boxes from ruger.
Sure enough, he opened the .44 mag acusport bisley, and it met all expectations.
He had a special surprise in store for me.
He told me to open the other box.
I (Not knowing what to expect) slowly opened the other box, and lo and behold, inside was a .41 mag acusport bisley, hot off the presses.
The date on the spent shell baggie was 8/27
That's right, last week.
I'm all smiles, and even though money is reeeaaaaly tight right now, I will find a way to have this in my furry little paws by the end of september, or sooner.
:D :D :D
You have no idea how happy that makes me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.41 lovers chime in, and order yours today, while they're hot.

[Coronach]

Heh. If his career in gun sales falls through, he can likely make a killing peddling crack.

"Here...take a look at this..."

:D

Mike

[caz223]

I can't believe that there has been very little reaction to this.
The best single action .41 mag under $500 is now being made,
the acusport bisley would be an excellent base gun for a low dollar custom .41, or as it is, bone stock, in an excellent configuration that hasn't been made yet.
It's not even on ruger's website yet, but is available.

[Old Fuff]

Well you did attract my attention ......

But when I went to the Acusport web page I couldn't find any information. Maybe it's in the "dealer's only" section, but that doesn't do me any good.

I have considered converting a Blackhawk to a Bisley configuration, and might yet do it. I think you may find more interest when Acusport is more forthcoming.

[caz223]

The way it's going, I will have pics by the end of this week.
:p
I hope so.

[Majic]

I will check with my dealer this week to see if he has received any yet. I will get on his list for when they do come in. I have the .45Colt chambered model, never much cared for a .44mag, but have been waiting for Ruger to put a .41mag version on the market.

[M58]

:D :evil:

[caz223]

So what is it you're trying to say, M58?
;)
You mean you don't own one yet?

[schapman43]

caz223, where are the pics! :)

[JOE MACK]

Yeah, it's about time. We tried this last year and Ruger backed out of the deal. I'm on the line for two. Had to sell a couple rifles, but I've been waiting for these for awhile. Now if Winchester would get the .41Magnum Platinum-tip ammo in the pipeline, I'll be happy for awhile. RKBA!:D

[Sunray]

"...I can't believe that there has been very little reaction to this..." Ammo is not readily available in most places. Nor are components easy to come by. The .41 is almost as bad as the 41AE. Same bullet. No brass can be had. No ammo. Bullets few and far between, because the .41 mag is scarce.

[ACP230]

Sunray:
I really think you are too pessimistic about the .41 Magnum.
Starline has new brass at a reasonable price and I have managed to accumulate about 1,100 cases. I bought 500 new Starline but sort of stumbled across the rest, in deals and in out-of-the way gunshops.

Bullets haven't been hard to find either. Midway USA puts them on sale now and then.

On the other hand, Ive never seen a round of .41 AE.

I wish someone would post pics of the gun mentioned at the start of this thread. I can't place it from the description.

[Majic]

I have a store near me that always have brass and a good supply of various bullets for .41s. Plus with the internet, shopping is much easier. Since yu are posting here you have access to all the components needed for reloading the .41.

ACP230,
Here is a pic of an Accusport SS Ruger 5.5" Bisley that the thread is about. The bottom revolver is one in .45Colt. the only difference would be caliber:

[madhatta]

I have to agree with majic- especially with the advent of the web (thank you al gore !!) ;)
I have only been a fan of the .41 for about 2 years now, and everywhere I go I just keep an eye out for guns and ammo of this caliber. It almost never fails that in gun shops across the country I find a good selection of .41mag- my most recent was a shop in NC, and the boxes had dust on them and the original (read: CHEAP) prices on them, which the kind gun store owner honored cause he had never gone back and updated them.

When we have interests, hobbies, passions, or maybe even obsessions, it seems we always find a way to locate and track down what we want (or maybe even need)-
I sure feel I need one of those new bisleys!

'hatta

[caz223]

Sunray:, you can buy .41 bullets from almost every major online supplier.
Also, locally I buy them from gander mountain, as well as several local gun shops.
I get Hornady 210 XTP-hp, 100 pack for about $12.50 + shipping from midway.
Locally, they're about $16.00 per hundred.
I must admit, I do wish rainier made .41 bullets available, but I can certainly see why they don't.
I am a big fan of 10mm/.41mag , and can't just pass it up when a company makes a new model.

I've never acually seen a gun that was chambered in .41 AE.
I have seen jericho 941s, but the ones I've seen were chambered in 9mm and .40 s&w.
I've bought and fondled many .41, and don't believe the caliber will die out altogether, it will just be a enthusiast cartridge, like the 10mm.
I also got brass from starline, and have prolly 1000 empties from REM and PMC that I now use for light loads.
I got starline brass now but didn't get it until last year.
I find it interesting to note, I have fired many, many rounds of .41, and after about '96 or so, all have been reloaded.
I have been shootiing the same 1000 pieces of brass, and god knows how many times each was fired, but I have never had a case failure, ever.
.41 brass is strong.

[caz223]

Hopefully pics, tomorrow or saturday.

[Koveras]

Mine came in today. I think I'm feeling sick. * Cough * cough * can't go to work tomorrow. :evil:

The grips are lighter than usual with some nice features on the right side. They are a good fit for the frame. Workmanship is a little "rushed" as far as polishing but the frame/grip frame fit is tight.

[caz223]

*Man*, I need that gun.
Rushed was the impression I got too, but still .41s from any manufacturer (Except taurus) seem to have that clouds parting, angels singing feeling to them.

[Old Fuff]

Nice!

[caz223]

Off to get mine right now, should be back by noon.
I doubt I'll have pics anytime today, need to sleep sometime.
Lots to do.
I'm sure that it looks just like every other acusport.
Buried a beloved pet yesterday, must cheer myself up, and I think this will do it...

Got it.
Tired, must sleep.
Pics tomorrow.
Range report Sunday or monday.

[MSB9021]

I got the call that mine came in Wednesday 9/10, and picked it up the following day (9/11). I'm hoping to get to the range this weekend. Finish looks great and the grips actually seem to 'fit'. Chamber mouths measure out correct. While not severe by any means, I'll probably fit a Belt Mtn. cylinder base pin on it to remove a bit of 'wobble' in the cylinder - like I said, nothing severe; and I do plan to shoot it before that happens.
I have a pair of the .44 Bisley's, but opted to only order one of the .41's. I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should have gone for a pair.....

[Koveras]

Range Report:

An excellent shotgun! Decent pointability and good pattern at 20 yards. Six shots into six inches easy.

My morning was full of dangerously flattened primers on mid-range loads, bullets flying in odd directions, and the local gunsmith telling me the barrel cylinder gap varies by .002 from left to right. Also a little bit of drag on the cylinder when the loading gate is closed. QC comes through again.

Time to call Ruger...

[caz223]

Shot mine today.
Shot well, and is very well-mannered.
Didn't get a chance to do any formal accuracy testing, but during the sight-in process they all stayed on the plate at 25 yards, and I had to move the sights several times..
I wouldn't mind having one just like it in a blued 4 5/8" model.
Maybe next year...

[Gunhamr]

Glad to see that there are still some folks who appreciate the .41.
I have been a lover and shooter of the caliber since it was first announced. I bought the first Ruger Blackhawk that I saw, Ser. No. 12XX and that was about '69 if I remember correctly. Could be wrong, give or take a year.
Use Starline brass and mostly home cast bullets in the Lyman 410429 mould which weighs out about 210 grains lubed and sized.

Talk about this new Ruger has got me thinking that I just might need another one. Also have a 4 inch S&W57 which has seen its share of shooting but I still prefer the single actions for hot loads.

Long may the .41 live. Too good to let it die.

[caz223]

Shot it again today.
I'm impressed with the accuracy.
I did the typical offhand modified weaver stance, and was shaky as all get out.
The average 6 shot group of the day was a 2 1/2"-3" average.
(I am still doing fine adjustments on the sights.)
Best group of the day at 25 yards was a little more than an inch, 6 shots, one flyer.
A little high and to the right.
Not too shabby for me.
I am still very impressed with it's manners, it may be the perfect SA wheelgun for me.
I may bust out the sandbags, and see how good she can shoot, once I'm happy with the sight-in.
I would already be done with it, but the range closed at 1:00 for hunter safety classes.

[Gunhamr]

Checked with my nearest local dealer this morning and he had two of the new Ruger Bisley. Now he just has one. I called a friend and told him about it so I am sure it is now gone also. Love that Bisley grip frame. Have only fired 50 rounds through it so far but seems to be very accurate with my load of 220 SWC and 20 gr. 2400. Will do a trigger job as soon as I can get to it and that should help. Also like the shape of the trigger
much better than the old straight Blackhawk. Can't really find anything to complain about.

The man ahead of me was trading for a Ruger 9mm and he was trading in a
Virginian 8-3/8 stainless 44 Mag in mint condition. After he left I asked the dealer what he would ask for that. He just held up two fingers so I told him to put it under the counter and I would pick it up Monday. Could have picked up today but wanted to get home and shoot the Bisley and also watch Tenn. Vols drain the Florida "Swamp" which they just did.:neener:

[caz223]

Sounds like another satisfied customer.
It also sounds like ruger isn't having any trouble selling them.

[Old Fuff]

Gee ......

A one inch +, 6-shot group with one flyer at 25 yards is pretty bad. Always said none of those .41's was any good. What you REALLY need is a top-break .32 (nickel plated) and I'll be glad too trade you one if you'll throw in some extra cash.

I expect I'll be turned down, so you just go right ahead and see if you can't do better. If you want too rub it in post a picture.

[caz223]

I got a better idea, OF.
How about if I keep mine, and you buy another.
A little birdie told me that you like .41 mags, and this one is pretty good.
I may post a pic yet, but I want to use a rested target as a background, and the gun is all dirty, I'll have to shoot it on sandbags, get some good targets, clean it, and take a few pics.
Maybe even find a furry woodland critter to pose with it.

[caz223]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/pb05b4993ef62ab68fd39d300732600e9/fb07cdd4.jpg


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/p0c1fcf43767d6aba2ce7117304f08cd0/fb07cdca.jpg

I apoligize for the poor photography.
I just couldn't wait anymore, and trudged out into first light with my gun case, my dirty acusport, and my digital cam.

Below are links to huge versions of the same pics.
Modem users, be warned.
http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?url=http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/pb05b4993ef62ab68fd39d300732600e9/fb07cdd4.jpg.orig.jpg&caption=good2&id=4211592660

http://www.imagestation.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?url=http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid80/p0c1fcf43767d6aba2ce7117304f08cd0/fb07cdca.jpg.orig.jpg&caption=good1&id=4211592650

[Old Fuff]

I'd say your pictures are fine. But I have a question, "those aren't the grips that came on it are they? They look interesting .....

[Gunhamr]

I bought one yesterday but nowhere in the manual or in the dealers
checkout was the word ACCUSPORT used. What is the meaning of the word and where is it used. It is not on the label on the end of the box.
Enlighten me and thanks.:confused:

[caz223]

Acusport is the distributor.
There are many distributors, like acusport, davidson's, and Lew Horton.
The manufacturer typically doesn't sell to retailers.
They sell to distributors, the distributor can arrange, and allocate models to sell to retailers when the manufacturer makes a scarce amount of product. The distributor is also an important feedback loop, they will inform the manufacturer what's selling, what's not, and how much iron they think they can move in the next six months.
The distributor can make a deal with the manufacturer to the effect of 'if you do a production run of 1000 .41 magnum blackhawks with 5" barrels, stainless construction, and bisley grips, we will buy the whole run'.
Distributors have a lot of say in what the manufacturer thinks that the customer wants.
This also sets the distributor apart from other distributors, for example the bisley-gripped 5" stainless blackhawk, in .41 mag, .44 mag, and .45 colt are only available from acusport.
This means that a customer that wants one will request one from their local gun shop.
If the gun shop doesn't currently have dealings with acusport, then he will have to call them and make arrangements to become a acusport retail partner, if he wants the sale.
Thus, acusport has now 'got their foot in the door', or so to speak.
Acusport has the supply, he has a customer demand, and he can get the product, connecting the dots, and making a sale.
The customer is happy, getting a desireable limited edition product, with a little more collectible value, at the same price, the gun shop owner makes a little money, and the distributor has a new retail partner, possibly increasing their market penetration, the manufacturer has made a sale, the customers wants are made known to the manufacturer, and everybody's happy. Capitalism at work.
They all lived happily ever after.

Those are ajax grips, black pearl. (Obviously polymer.)
More durable than the feaux ivory grips from ruger, and look better, too.
I don't like wood grips on SA wheels, esp. rugers.

[caz223]

Here's a pic of those grips on a different gun, just for you, OF.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p9b5cff0aa2aecf9f876f42158ce855c2/fc14b19f.jpg

[Old Fuff]

Well thanks. I appreciate the pic. Makes up for you not taking up my offer of a nickel-plated .32 .........

I'm sure it will shoot as good as it looks.

[Gunhamr]

caz223; thanks for your explanation of the word acusport. I was a gun dealer for about forty years before my retirement in'88 but I never had heard of that distributor. Davidsons and Lew Horton I was familiar with but never had any recollection of acusport. I have a blackhawk in dual calibers 38/40 & 10mm with the Buckeye logo on the top strap. I used to buy supplies from Buckeye. Times do change and I guess I just have not kept up since retiring. My local dealer is Homestead which is primarily a farm supply outfit but also has a good gun department. The central office for Homestead may buy from acusport but I believe that all local guns come through the main office. Again, thanks for your reply.

[caz223]

I apologize if I went into too much detail or screwed it up a bit, but I didn't know your level of expertice.
Lol, the first line would have probably sufficed.

[Koveras]

Since I had posted earlier about my problems with my Acusport .41 Bisley, I thought it only fair to report back on the resolution. Ruger had my gun for two weeks, I got it back yesterday (10/2). There were no hassles dealing with them, although paying to ship it back to them was expensive (UPS Air Overnight).

I took it to the range this morning and as the attached picture shows, I am pleased as punch with the results. The inset shows the new BC gap, which is just a hair over .005 inches. Target is six shots at 20 yards, 1 1/4" center to center. My particular gun seems to prefer near-max loads with jacketed bullets.

Ruger service: A- Ruger QC: D-

[caz223]

Nice shooting.
I'd be shooting today, but I'm trying to get a new gun. :D
So I can shoot more later.
For some reason, most of the ruger SA wheels I have like near max loads, and jacketed bullets.
Another satisfied customer.

[Majic]

I managed to put one on layaway just the other night. Now I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas.
My SA Ruger's also prefer being pushed hard, but generally have a diet consisting of cast bullets. Jacketed bullets do a good job, but my home brews work better in them. Besides I'm a cheap shooter!!! :neener:

[WESHOOT2]

My very-most-favorite cartridge is the 41 AE. I got a gun.

I like my 41 Mag, but I wish there were cheap pointy bullets for speedloading (IPSC, you know).
For hunting it's about as good as most in N.A. will ever need, maybe a bit light for the big brownies and such. But it will penetrate (Beartooth, Cast Performance, and Dry Creek's superb 230g 'Keith').