Best selling pump action in the States?


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throdgrain
September 7, 2008, 12:00 PM
I was under the impression it was easily the 870, with Mossberg coming second. Is this not the case?

I supose I mean on a yearly basis, not on how many sold in total.

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MAKster
September 7, 2008, 12:04 PM
870 Express is the current #1 seller. Mossberg 500 is #2.

jmr40
September 7, 2008, 06:51 PM
It is my opinion that the 870 is a much better shotgun and over time Remington has sold a lot more guns. I have not seen any sales figures but I would not be surprised if the Mossberg is not out selling the Remington in recent years.

dfariswheel
September 7, 2008, 08:09 PM
Last Federal numbers I saw, Remington sold almost twice as many pumps as Mossberg that year.

duncan
September 14, 2008, 08:49 PM
Remington claims being the most popular on their website.

Almond27
September 14, 2008, 10:39 PM
They both are great in their own regards its all a matter of personal preference and I would have to also believe Remington outsells Mossberg but I might be mistaken

SaltH2OHokie
September 15, 2008, 02:23 AM
I owned a Mossy 500 when I was 12, moved "up" to a Remmy 870 at 15 and currently shoot a Benelli Nova which I got only a year after the 870. 6 years later I wish I had just skipped the two best sellers and gone straight to the Benelli.

On the other hand, I hunt with a ton of people who shoot nothing but 870's (one for each day of the week in some cases) and have yet to have a problem, so given that some versions of the 870 are cheaper than my Nova was, I could certainly see the logic behind them being the number 1 seller. That Mossberg 500 I had just felt crappy, but I shot the heck out of that thing and couldn't make it jam up or otherwise not do something I asked of it...just figured an 870 would net me more deer, so I jumped :D

theken206
September 15, 2008, 03:02 AM
the 870

throdgrain
September 15, 2008, 05:01 AM
The question was to verify my opinion was correct in a discussion I was having on another gun forum.

It wasnt which gun was the best, but which sold the most yearly. Another poster had claimed that more Nova/Supernovas get sold in the US than any other pump action, a point I was contesting :p

And I was right as I already knew, the 870 outsells em all :)

While on the subject though, I had an 870 ordered new for over two months, in the end I cancelled the order as the wait time was getting rediculous.

I tried a used 870 in a shop only this weekend though, and can confirm what you already know, its a very well-made gun, feels much better than a Mossberg, however I do think the safety is placed better on the my Mossberg 500, and the slide release is in a much better position.

First gun I reach for when I go shooting? 8 times out of 10 its my Benelli M2.

MCgunner
September 15, 2008, 10:38 AM
My 500 is a po boy's BPS. :D Tang safety (where it should be), hidden shell elevator. Just don't eject out the bottom. It kills ducks and geese just as well as any Remington. I know, I had a Wingmaster, sold it.

I really prefer autos, but I like the 500 a lot as pumps go. I will get a BPS someday, though, really like the Browning, quality gun and slick action and a natural for a left handed shooter. The BPS don't outsell the Remngton or the Mossberg, but it's twice the gun, at least. Just goes to show sales figures don't mean squat.

mgregg85
September 15, 2008, 10:57 AM
#1. 870
#2. 500

Hawk
September 15, 2008, 11:32 AM
ATF's AFMER 2006 does not differentiate between types of shotguns.

Mossberg total: 225,909
Remington total: 294,167

ATF's numbers are domestic production only. Would not include Remington imported Russian shotguns or any other rebadged / imported items.

thegoodfight
September 15, 2008, 12:21 PM
ithaca 37 by far


or remington

Hawk
September 15, 2008, 02:04 PM
ithaca 37 by far

To my not inconsiderable surprise, ATF shows the Upper Sandusky Ithaca accounting for 202 shotguns in 2006.

That's about 200 more than I would have guessed.

Dimis
September 15, 2008, 05:04 PM
bottom line i think one of the huge reasons (not the only reason) people buy the remington is simply brand recognition yes its a reliable shotty but alot of new to the gun world buyers dont know who benelli mossberg or for that matter browning are but the name remington rings a bell and they slap money down because hearing it over and over again makes them believe that it has to be the best im not bashing remington they have a solid product and i enjoy the 870 alot i also love my mossberg and my friends browning and my brothers nova... lol

throdgrain
September 15, 2008, 05:32 PM
In fairness I should have qualified my remark too. I shoot a lot of clays, and a pump action is not too bad for that, but rare as hens teeth on an English Sporting layout, and its a lot easier with a semi-auto, as the second in a pair comes on report.

When I go pigeon or rabbit hunting, I mostly take the Mossberg.

brasskeeper
September 19, 2008, 07:34 PM
Hawk

Quote:
ithaca 37 by far

To my not inconsiderable surprise, ATF shows the Upper Sandusky Ithaca accounting for 202 shotguns in 2006.

That's about 200 more than I would have guessed.


At $860.00 for a pump, that you have to order, I'm suprised they sell very many.

Hollywood Marine
September 20, 2008, 02:42 AM
I could be mistakem, but at over two million units I believe the model twelve is the best selling pump gun of all time. Of course since it is no longer made the others may well catch up, and yes I know the thread is refering to current annual sales. LOL

Dave McCracken
September 20, 2008, 09:00 AM
Actually, the 870 that drove the 12 off the market is producing its 10,000,000th unit.

MCgunner
September 20, 2008, 11:34 AM
Hmm, what if ya tossed in Maverick? American made, by American illegal aliens, ya know. :D

Hollywood Marine
September 22, 2008, 02:13 AM
WOW! I stand corrected Dave

ljnowell
September 22, 2008, 02:27 AM
My dad has an early 70s remington 870 wingmaster. 3" with a long barrel. Beautiful gun. I prefer my winchester 1300 though. Had it for over 15 years now, never a hiccup, still looks new too.

mgkdrgn
September 22, 2008, 10:14 AM
I was under the impression it was easily the 870, with Mossberg coming second. Is this not the case?

I supose I mean on a yearly basis, not on how many sold in total.

The 870 is the all time best selling shotgun in the world, I do believe. Next in line is the Mossberg ... with less than 1/2 the sales of the 870.

MCgunner
September 22, 2008, 10:26 AM
I owned a Mossy 500 when I was 12, moved "up" to a Remmy 870

Actually, I had a Wingmaster as a kid and moved up to a Mossberg 500. :neener:

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