I'm purchasing a complete Colt SOCOM 14.5" upper tomorrow and I don't want to go through the NFA stuff, so I'm going to have to have a flash suppressor permanently attached. I've been reading quite a bit and it seems to come down to either a Vortex or a Phantom, but I'd like some opinions on which is better overall. Is the Vortex even long enough to make the rifle legal? Also, say I get it permanently attached, then I want to buy a can down the road. Would a smith be able to remove the flash suppressor without damaging anything? I appreciate your input ;)
Also, do you think $650 is a good deal for that upper?
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September 7, 2008, 05:41 PM
I think to be NFA legal it has to be attached with silver solder of blind-pinned. I believe it's a royal pain to get them off (which is why the ATF wants it done that way). Both should be long enough. If you want a can later you could get YHM's fast-attach phantom that is made for attaching their cans. It would limit you to a YHM can though.
I have heard that the tines on the vortex can spread over time which really irked people who had them permantely attached, but I haven't tried one myself so that's just hearsay.
September 7, 2008, 05:59 PM
I have the Bushmaster Shorty AK, 14.5 with an AK brake permanently attached to make it 16". I will say that the AK does a nice job with recoil albeit a bit loud. Maybe not the best flash hider but it is worth consideration. Bill
September 7, 2008, 11:03 PM
Ah yeah, I don't want to lock myself into a particular brand or anything. The chances I could afford a suppressor anytime soon are very slim anyway. Any other suggestions on which flash hider?
September 8, 2008, 01:19 AM
Phantom is my preference between the two.
September 8, 2008, 02:53 AM
vltor makes one long enough too...
September 8, 2008, 06:02 AM
VLTOR or Vortex are my choices. Got a Vortex for a .22lr AR-15 to get it longer, ofcourse in Finland I don't need to have it permanently attached. I've heard the phantom flash hiders wear down quickly.
September 8, 2008, 10:49 AM
Oh yeah, just rub it right in, why don't ya! ;)
September 8, 2008, 10:55 AM
They can be removed later on if you do buy a suppressor. The pinned/welded area would need to be milled down to remove the FH. The FH would be destroyed, but the barrel would be fine.
I permanently mounted a Phantom 5C2 on my 14.5" LMT upper.