Just curious how you all do it...


September 7, 2008, 11:45 PM
I have not been able to decide in what configuration to keep my HD M500. I have a 18 in bbl on it and a side saddle. I cant decide if I should keep a pistol grip, regular stock, or an extendable stock with pistol grip. How do you have yours set up? Pics are a plus...

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September 7, 2008, 11:57 PM
I just like the look of the shoulder stock, besides, that is what I am used to seeing and using.

September 8, 2008, 12:15 AM
Fixed wood buttstock, 20 inch barrel, 6 shot mag, rifle sights.

September 8, 2008, 12:16 AM
I have both

September 8, 2008, 12:25 AM
Shoulder stock, pistol grips look neat but there are a couple of problems with them.

#1 Accuracy, the stability of having it against the shoulder is lost as is the ability to aim well.

#2 The recoil goes into the wrist instead of the shoulder, making it harder to control, much less comfortable to shoot.

September 8, 2008, 12:25 AM
Hogue makes a very short shoulder stock that is designed for close quarters, or LEO's with body armor. It has a 12" length of pull and is very handy for indoors.

September 8, 2008, 12:35 AM
A shotgun without a shoulder stock is like a bicycle without a seat. It will still work, it's just not nearly as comfortable or effective.

September 8, 2008, 12:47 AM
Shoulder stock.
In fact bone stock, even if the gun has 28" barrel(s).
[or whatever from 18.5 to 34"]
I don't care, and have used/ not afraid to use pumps, semi-auto, O/U, SxS and Single Shot

Currently I use a H&R Youth 20 ga single shot, bone stock.
This one is 36" total length, and 22" of this is the plain, fixed modified barrel , that throws some of the best slug groups, #3 Buckshot, and pellet patterns.
Factory recoil pad on the shoulder stock.

Just a tool...and it can't do nuttin' any better than the user of said tool...these firearms...

September 8, 2008, 06:14 AM
I use it PGO while its inside the house just due to the location it is kept being a little tight. I know the downfalls of it being PGO, but its PGO or I can't store it safely.


Todd A
September 8, 2008, 06:25 AM


September 8, 2008, 07:45 AM
Whatever you are the most comfortable with. If you can honestly use a pistol grip to hit what you are aiming at, in an expedient manner, and practice doing so regularly, good on you... because I can't.

Mine is the same stock shotgun I use for deer, dove, turkey, quail, clay games, etc. Using it in all sorts of environments has given me a lot of confidence and proficiency with it, can't imagine wanting to use something else.

September 8, 2008, 03:12 PM
I have the 18-1/2" barrel, but the normal shoulder stock.

Have tried the PGO (Pistol Grip Only)

ONCE. Quoth the Raven "Nevermore."

September 8, 2008, 08:00 PM
****! I voted for the wrong one. No way I'd have a pistol grip on a scattergun.


September 8, 2008, 08:04 PM
I have a Winchester 1300 Defender that came with a pistol grip. It took just a few tries with that to make me get a stock for it.

No pistol grip for me. Or at least not without a stock as well.


September 8, 2008, 08:09 PM
I have one pistol gripped shotgun and thats a 20 ga 870 that I keep solely for home defense. It works fine for inside the house distances. The rest of my shotguns have shoulder stocks.

September 8, 2008, 08:16 PM
The only way I'd have a shotgun (for any purpose) with PGO is if someone gifted it to me. And then I'd probably very quickly be looking to get a stock for it. I don't like the look of a shotgun without a stock. I don't even like the stock with pistol grip look. Just a regular, standard stock for me, thanks.

I'll stop ranting now. :-)

September 8, 2008, 08:36 PM
Mine is <what I consider> the best of both worlds: A Blackhawk/Knoxx Spec Ops Folder, which is basically their excellent BreachersGrip with a top-folding wire-frame "stock".To deploy the stock,squeeze the frame & swing it down-locks in place.Quick if you need it.
My previous favorite was the BreachersGrip (PGO) which made recoil manageable (and good groups repeatable) but over time I came to realize the advantages of sometimes having a "stock"-----here's the prime example: opening a door,while "Ready". That's when having both is golden.Something to consider!

----Gnarly :evil:

Dave McCracken
September 8, 2008, 09:51 PM

H*ll No!!!!

September 8, 2008, 09:57 PM
Oh Dave!!!

We be curmudgeons and geezers.
I mean even gals have given up on trying to train us.

PGO is like trying to whittle with a pocket knife with no handle.
Doable, still not the way I was raised to use a shotgun, or pocket knife.

*sits on whittlin' bench*

September 8, 2008, 09:57 PM
not beating around the bush today Dave?

September 8, 2008, 11:52 PM
Said it before and will say it again: IMHO, pistol-grip-only guns aren't for shooting, they're for hiding under your trenchcoat. It's a portability configuration, not a usability one. Just my opinion...

Have to throw this in: Can't remember the movie, but one of the stupidest pieces of cinema shotgun-craft I've ever seen was this one scene where a bartender who is being held up reaches under the bar and comes up with a PGO shotgun that he brandishes in the bad guy's face one-handed and with a fully extended arm! What's going to happen when/if he pulls the trigger? Wait--it gets worse... They go eyeball-to-eyeball for a while, trading trash-talk, and then Mr. Hero decides to get down and dirty, so... he racks the slide! Coming off-target in the process, of course. Eh? He was confronting Mr. Bad Guy with an empty chamber? And Mr. Bad Guy just stands there, pistol in hand, while Mr. Hero pumps in a live one? Dumb, meet Dumber. Only in Hollywood.

September 8, 2008, 11:57 PM
...one-handed and with a fully extended arm! What's going to happen when/if he pulls the trigger?

I've done that. Went home immediately after and quietly cried myself to sleep.


September 9, 2008, 12:01 AM
Not to knock anyone who doesn't care for the pistol grip only, but I honestly don't think they are that harsh or hard to use. If you are younger and have decent hands/arms/wrists you can handle full power buckshot loads if you learn how to properly handle the weapon. YMMV as always.

September 9, 2008, 02:28 AM
it's just not nearly as comfortable or effective.
Effectiveness isn't changed... the round fired is still fired out of the same length barrel with the same choke.

I'd get one with a folding stock, if you need the shotgun to take up less space for some reason and still be ready to use at a moment's notice. If you don't have any need for a shorter shotgun, get a solid stock with or without a pistol grip.

Black Majik
September 9, 2008, 02:31 AM
I absolutely, positively, completely, without a doubt, 100%, fully, concurred, and made sure again, times 1000 hate a pistol grip stock on a shotgun.

I don't get along too well with the tactical crowd. :D

September 9, 2008, 03:00 AM

Here she is!

Todd A
September 9, 2008, 07:36 AM
We be curmudgeons and geezers.

sm, your never to old. Come on over to the dark side. Somebody must make a tactical stock for your single shot.:eek:

September 9, 2008, 09:48 AM
Pistol grips are for pistols.

September 9, 2008, 10:13 AM
I have several choices, but notice how the shotguns are kept 90% of the time:



The pistol grips are in the pouch under the AR style stocks:) The wood stock is just referance for were the stock on the shotgun goes.

September 9, 2008, 10:29 AM
Awe, come on guys...an 18" pump Mossberg with Pachmyar pistol grip set and a laser sight...it just don't get any more fun that that! Makin' great big holes right where you want 'em from the hip.

September 9, 2008, 06:44 PM
Effectiveness isn't changed... the round fired is still fired out of the same length barrel with the same choke.

Effectiveness = how well the tool gets the job done (assuming the user does his/her part). A pistol grip hinders that, because its not as fast to get on target, its not as accurate, and its not as fast with a followup shot. Sure, the shot load is the same, but it isn't worth jack nor squat if it isn't delivered quickly and accurately to the target.

So yeah, not nearly as effective.

Dirty Bob
September 9, 2008, 07:13 PM
Standard shoulder stock for me. Wood or synthetic, I don't really care, but I do know this: I can fire a standard pump -- accurately -- a heckuva lot faster than I can with a PGO. The speed of the first shot is somewhat faster than with a PGO, but the second is a lot faster, especially with full-power buckshot.

Personally, I'd listen hard to guys like Dave McCracken and sm. They've forgotten more about this stuff than I'll ever know. I do have one bone to pick with them, though: since I started reading this forum, my one 12ga pump has become four shotguns! And I'm shooting a lot more! And having fun! Geez!

Dirty Bob

September 9, 2008, 09:40 PM
I have a Maverick 88 with an ar style stock, pg with collapsable stock. The safety is easily reached on this gun.

On my Mossberg 500 with the safety on top of the receiver it becomes impossible to deactivate it without releasing your grip. So on that one, I stuck with the standard stock.

I like em both equally. The ar-stock is a little more manuverable because I can adjust the length, but I'm a much better shot with the 500's standard stock. I'm completely out on pistol grip only though, only took a few rounds for me to realize that was NOT what I was looking for in a shotgun.

September 10, 2008, 07:50 AM
I dont like PGO on a shotty. But a stock/pistol grip is great, except on a Mossberg where the safety is on top.

September 10, 2008, 09:02 AM
This is what the short Hogue stock looks like on my Mossberg ....


September 10, 2008, 03:10 PM
That's a bad poll because a significant number of shotguns have both.

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