Just Bought a Detonics


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whitebb
September 8, 2008, 05:08 PM
Just picked up a original Detonics! It is a MKI, and is serial # 2***. Looks like someone did some work to it, but it can be reversed. Marked as Seattle WA. I am pleased.:) Looks like factory adjustable sights. Someone also hard chromed it, after it left the factory. What ya think?

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q34/whitebb_2006/S5031546.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q34/whitebb_2006/S5031547.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q34/whitebb_2006/S5031549.jpg

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nambu1
September 8, 2008, 05:29 PM
My friend, Ray, loves Detonics and has a couple different models. They are nice weapons. Yours is sweet looking piece. Enjoy shooting it.

Drail
September 8, 2008, 06:24 PM
Sweet. Everything you need and nothing that you don't. I love it.

weisse52
September 8, 2008, 07:40 PM
Nice find. We are looking forward to getting a shootin report!

One of the first "mini" 1911,s.

Jim Watson
September 8, 2008, 07:48 PM
Rear sight is an MMC, as marked. I don't think Detonics offered those from the factory, they had their own design of semi-adjustable, the Combat Selector sight.

The thumb safety and extended slide stop are non-stock as are the horrible Bubba punch marks in lieu of serration. I would definitely replace them; but not the sight, although it is not ex-works, the little MMCs were pretty common in those days.

whitebb
September 8, 2008, 09:07 PM
The interesting part of the slide stop and safety is they are welded up to that configuration. I imagine these were done in the 70's as extended safety's and Slide stops were not common.
Also interesting is the low serial number. It is in the 600's (26**).
I forgot to mention I paid $450 for it. (Private sale)

Jim Watson
September 8, 2008, 09:23 PM
Friend of mine made numerous extended safeties and a few slide stops by silver soldering on a longer lever. But he neatly serrated them, didn't beat them with a punch like Bubba. Homemade doesn't have to mean ugly.

Storm
September 8, 2008, 10:19 PM
I have a Combat Master made more recently in Pendergrass, Georgia. It's an incredibly good shooting weapon and beautifully built. Congrats on a very fine acquisition.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1220/img4250et3.jpg

markallen
September 8, 2008, 10:25 PM
Welcome to the Detonics owners Club !!
Shoot it and Enjoy.
The safety and slide stop are some of many standard 1911 parts that will work with the Detonics. If you choose to replace them check out Wilson for parts.
I replaced the slide stop, on my MK Vl with an extended one from Wilson, and fit and finish is a perfect match.

Browns Fan
September 9, 2008, 08:57 AM
Nice gun! I bought a Detonics 9-11-01 last yr. I have had a few 1911's, it is by far my favorite.

I have heard that Detonics moved to southern Ill somewhere. Are they fully operational yet?

Storm
September 9, 2008, 10:03 AM
I have heard that Detonics moved to southern Ill somewhere. Are they fully operational yet?

I have seen some Combat Masters on GunBroker that are said to be the newest guns from Illinois, but the photos clearly show Penedergrass, GA guns. Possibly they are just stock photos. I hope that the Illinois guns are as fine as the Georgia guns with complete parts interchangeability.

tipoc
September 9, 2008, 04:28 PM
You can learn a bit more by dropping by here...

http://www.biggerhammer.net/detonics/

and here...

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/detonics.htm

There is also here,

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DetonicsCollectors/?yguid=77359667

tipoc

1KPerDay
September 9, 2008, 04:45 PM
Forgive the stupid question, but what's the supposed advantage of shortening the sight radius?

???

MICHAEL T
September 9, 2008, 05:35 PM
From what Ive read The orginal designer didn't like Cocked and Locked carry. So he moved sight foward and sloped frame slighty to assist in thumb cocking. WE ALL KNOW ITS NOT SAFE TO LOWER HAMMER AND CARRY IN CONDITION 2 . Back then many people still carried that way and lowered hammer. The commander round hammer and beavertails weren't common yet. And people still remembered how to do with out shooting themselves . I have a old mag that even gives directions on how to lower hammer for carry.

Times have changed Now you yelled at for what was common practice years back. I also have a old WA state Detonics

1KPerDay
September 9, 2008, 06:53 PM
Cool.... thanks for the explanation. I looked at the pic above with the hammer down and wondered if it had something to do with that. :cool:

tipoc
September 9, 2008, 07:53 PM
Given the role of the gun you don't really loose much by the shorter sight radius. Below is a bit from Pat Yates on the hammer and sloping rear...



(e) A different contour hammer was designed with the lower portions duplicating Browning's design but with the upper end reshaped into a more nearly vertical straight spur. The front thumb-gripping surface was inclined about 45 degrees and finely checkered. I've always been one of those people who gets bitten by hammer/tang pinch with a GI .45. Eliminating the grip tang with any standard hammer made this a lot worse. Going to a near-vertical spur eliminates the bite altogether and makes the hammer much easier to control and cock as well as lightening it a bit. To keep the spur from being ungainly tall and hard to reach, I also stepped the back of the slide. There were also cosmetic reasons for this, as without it my thought in looking at it was always ‘look what some damn fool did to a perfectly good .45’. Detonics didn't put this hammer into production, which I always regretted as it was quite practical.

(f) The aft end of the slide was stepped as close as seemed practical to the firing pin hole with an angled flat running uphill and forward an inch or so ending with a radiused step just short of the repositioned rear sight. In combination with the new hammer shape this made for a very compact and easily cocked (and de-cocked) design.

The whole of this can be read at the Bigger Hammer site.

The original designers did use C&L at times in an appropriate rig. But the gun was meant for easy concealment where the upraised hammer might get caught on the draw or poke into the wearer while carrying. So the sloping rear meant that if one carried hammer down cocking and decocking was easier.

Below at 15 yards from a Weaver stance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/Combat%20Master%20Mk1/det1.jpg

tipoc

Storm
September 9, 2008, 10:42 PM
Yup, this was not meant to be a target gun, more point and shoot.

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