Best Varmint Scope


September 8, 2008, 08:48 PM
I am one payment away from a Savage 12 FV in .308 and I'm having trouble picking a scope. I've always been a strong proponent of Nikon. Well recently someone told me that some scope are "One Piece Tubes" and some are "Two Piece Tubes". And to make sure the that you get a one piece tube.

I was amazed at this. My discovery led me to ask the question that what are the benefits of a 1 piece over 2 piece. Aside from strength and durability no one could offer any other benefits.

While I am planning on now buying a 1 piece tube now, I was wondering people's thoughts on the following 'one piece tubes' scopes: (price range is under $650)

Nikon: Monarch lines and up. (As all other lines under are 2 piece tubes.)
Leupold: VX-III and up. (All all other lines under are 2 piece tubes.)
also the
Bushnell: 4200 line and Up.

Your Advice THR is always appreciated.


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September 8, 2008, 09:09 PM
Check out Sightron, their warranty is dealer serviced, not manufacturer serviced. They are good and in the same price range as the others you listed.

September 8, 2008, 10:05 PM
VX III in the Long Range 30mm variety will be the best of the choices if you're willing to spend that much. They are all good choices but I like the new VX III's for ;options, resale, warranty and repeatability. That said I'm thinking of trying one of the 6 x 24 x 50 Monarch's with a Target dot on my next build. THere's guys selling them for 5 large on Gunbroker and that's very tempting. Almost half price of the big 30mm VXIII's.

September 8, 2008, 10:08 PM
I wouldn't worry that much about it, i have a Nikon Buckmaster that is great. Of course, my Sighton S3 and Elite 4200 are really nice too.

September 8, 2008, 10:18 PM
I really like nikon buckmasters for the money. The monarch doesn't seem to be that much better than the buckmasters. The bushnell 3200 and 4200 are pretty good too, but on the higher power levels there is a whitish tint. As far as leupold goes, they are good scopes, but are not a good deal. You have to spend a fair amount of money on them to get a good scope. Don't get me wrong, they make better scopes that nikon, but you have to pay a lot more.

September 8, 2008, 10:40 PM
There is not a huge amount of difference in the three you named, although I personally would go with the 4200 first, Monarch second, the Leupold is a decent scope but has gotten too pricey at each quality level.

And there is nothing at all wrong with well made 2 piece tubes by the way.

September 8, 2008, 11:35 PM
Yeah the 4200 is a great value! Get a target dot!


September 8, 2008, 11:44 PM
I researched and looked around at the exact same class of optics and settled on the Monarch. Longest eye relief was a big plus. Best optical clarity IMHO. (YES, over the Leupold according to my eyes) Nothing against the Bushnell 4200, the Nikon was just better at the price point.

Leupold has excellent customer service, and Nikon now offers lifetime replacement. They compete, we win.

September 9, 2008, 01:00 AM
don't forget the Super Sniper as well... a very high end Tasco product.

September 9, 2008, 01:01 AM
... and i wouldn't turn my nose up at a Burris either...
but from the ones you listed, I like the 4200.

September 9, 2008, 01:58 AM
I would go with a Burris or Nikon. I love my Nikon. Burris makes a great scope and backs it with a heck of a warranty.

September 14, 2008, 08:21 PM
+1 for the 4200, and all know the Leupolds are great.

September 14, 2008, 09:40 PM
Nikon, otherwise Swarovski if you really want "best"

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