Tell me about CZ bolt-action .22's


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MIL-DOT
September 9, 2008, 08:48 PM
Hi all, I've really been enjoying my stainless Marlin 60, and it's got me considering a nicer .22 rifle. I know that the CZ stuff is very well spoken of, but not much beyond that. Basically, I'm looking for recommendations, along with the reasons for them, and hopefully an idea of what said recommendation should cost, as price is a consideration. Any and all input much appreciated......M.

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jdc1244
September 9, 2008, 08:56 PM
For target shooting/scope the 452 American is the way to go. For irons the 452 Lux is best but the Trainer is just as good for a little less.

There is a cabal of rabid CZers here all you need to know:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18

My American in .22LR has been excellent, I can highly recommend it.

hans1911
September 9, 2008, 09:12 PM
I own 3 CZ rimfires. I sold all my other .22 rifles. I have a Trainer, an Ultralux and an American. They are all very accurate, even with some cheaper bulk ammo. I am thinking hard about getting another one soon. They are the great addiction. :D

Selfdfenz
September 9, 2008, 09:24 PM
Great products. The CZs I own have all been top notch and I would:
a) do it all over again
2) recommend CZ rimfires to a friend without hesitation (centerfires too, but that's different thread)

And we're not a cabal... we're students of the gun. :)

Best

S-

RancidSumo
September 9, 2008, 09:31 PM
I love mine. I got a 22mag because I wanted the extra punch for prarie dogs. I really like the irons and think you at least have to try them before you mount a scope. I like the full stock so I went with that one but the lux is probably more accurate. I am nearing 1000rds through mine in a couple months and it is VERY accurate

jmr40
September 9, 2008, 10:02 PM
I have the 452 American, my brother has the Varmit. Basically the same gun but the Varmit has a slightly heavier barrel. We paid less than $300 for them. I think they are a bit more now but you will not find a more accurate gun for anywhere near the money. Mine routinely shoots under 1/2" at 50 yards and with match ammo has shot under 3/8". I have not been able to shoot under an inch at 100 yds yet but have come close a few times.

If you are going to scope it I would reccomend the American because it uses standard 3/8" groved rings. The other CZ's require 11mm groved rings which are expensive and harder to find.

The bolt was a little rough on mine at first but has smoothed out with use. The trigger is OK compared to most .22's but needs work. My brother had a gunsmith work on his and I plan to do the same. It made a big difference in his rifle.

juk
September 9, 2008, 10:10 PM
I have a 452 trainer and love it. Easily minute of squirrel to 75 yards with cheaper ammo. The trigger is decent, as is the stock. The sights are very good. Great company, great value, great gun.

22-rimfire
September 9, 2008, 10:13 PM
The CZ 452, or 453 (with set trigger) is a good choice for a target shooter. I have the heavy barrel varmint model. I put a Mueller APV 4.5-14x scope on mine. Both the scope and the rifle are a good value. I find the stocks to be pretty average, but at least they are made of walnut. I don't like the safety. And the bolts can be a little stiff. But the accuracy is typically very good.

An alternative rifle to consider is the Savage Mark II. It has just as good a reputation for accuracy. I'd mount the same scope if it is paper you intend to punch with it. In fact, since I have one on layaway, I may just have to pick up the Mueller scope since I intend to use it for target shooting also.

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
September 9, 2008, 10:33 PM
There is a cabal of rabid CZers here – all you need to know:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...splay.php?f=18

And also a cabal on here, and just about everywhere else you go.

CZ rimfire = good stuff Maynard!

http://www.cz-usa.com/products_rimfire_rifles.php

I'm almost afraid to say how many 452s/453s I've purchased (4 I guess - not that many, right?)...I *think* I'm done.

Incidentally, CZ centerfire rifles (550s and 527s) and handguns are also top notch, espec. the 550s.

If you are going to scope it I would reccomend the American because it uses standard 3/8" groved rings. The other CZ's require 11mm groved rings which are expensive and harder to find.

Be that as it may, I've used standard 3/8ths" rimfire rings ON the 11 mm rails and they work just fine (on the Luxe even). They open up further (most rimfire rings do). So I dunno about "require".

snead888
September 9, 2008, 10:34 PM
American if you want a scope, Ultra Lux if you want iron sights. or Lux if you dont want that long of a rifle as the Ultra Lux

rangerruck
September 9, 2008, 11:51 PM
cz products are unique in all the gunworld for both primary and secondary parts/supplies/service areas as well. In all the above, there is a certain amount of things we expect, we like, we don't like, or wish we could have gotten.
Cz is one of the few products, where you say, not only did i get my money's worth, i got more than my money's worth. Now then, If you would have bought any product from them , say, 4 years ago, you would have really been stunned, since you could get a brand new cz 75, with ken onion folder, all in a poly/moly od green finish, for 400 bucks. I got both my 527 carbines, 100% made in Czechland, no finishing or stenciling whatsoever, from Kansas City, for 400 bucks each!!!! To beat a cz 22, you have to be prepared to spend a bunch more money, and that is if you do no tricks, or treats, to your cz rifle at all, just right out of the box, pick it up, fire it. it will be more accurate than you know. And guess what, you haven't even used or adjusted the single set trigger yet...
Lastly , they are generally beautiful, and if you go to buy them in person, ask the gundude to open several boxes for you, so you can check the wood. i know one dude who got some honey maple, and another guy who got a blanket maple stock.... so fine.

they even made some parker hale editions, which came to the u.s., with a prethreaded muzzle, and muzzle cap!!!!!!

CH47gunner
September 10, 2008, 12:14 AM
My first Cz was a CZ452 Special/Trainer - decent adjustable trigger, nice wood, & very good metalwork. Workmanship, fit & finish is excellent.
Iron sights are very good but, I mounted a decent lower power hunting scope on mine (old eyes).
I'd buy another - Oh, I did. A centerfire CZ527 Varmint in .223 but, that's another story.
Here's a couple of pics of the CZ452 Special/Trainer.

Bruce

CZ452 Special/Trainer w/ Simmons 22Mag 3-9X32.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/P8070025.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/P8070026.jpg

publiuss
September 11, 2008, 12:23 PM
My next .22 will be an American. Got a Marlin 60 for a beater, Rem 572 for a plinking (but keep in it's case) gun, and Rem.541t for hunting & target shooting. Need something more accurate than the 572 but not as nice as the 541. CZ American gets the nod.I'm just too careful w/the 541 so end up taking the 572 for bushytails half the time and it isn't quite as accurate as I like for that kind of work.

Larry E
September 11, 2008, 08:30 PM
The only complaint I've got about my CZ's (452 and 527) is the cost of spare magazines. The 452 will easily shoot 1/2" groups at 50 yards with ammunition it likes (Federal American Eagle is one it likes too). It's the standard model with the birch stock, bedded, and trigger breathed on. Nice rifle and well worth the $265 I paid for it a couple of years ago. Much more accurate than my early Ruger 77/22, and cost less than the Ruger did shortly after they came out.

toivo
September 11, 2008, 09:17 PM
I find the stocks to be pretty average, but at least they are made of walnut.

The Lux, American, Varmint, and FS are, but the Trainer/Special, Scout, and 513 Basic are beechwood.

There used to be a "nice wood" option where you could pay a little extra for better-looking wood when you ordered a CZ. I'm not sure if they still do that.

tdb
September 12, 2008, 04:29 PM
I recently Bought a CZ American in .22 long rifle , I also have a CZ Special , they are both fine rifles , if you are going to target shoot I would get the American , CZ .22s are the finest on the market for the money . TEDMI.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SQSHOOTER/100_0057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SQSHOOTER/100_0062.jpg
CZ Special

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/SQSHOOTER/000_0663.jpg

Correia
September 12, 2008, 04:33 PM
All I can tell you about them is I know where to get the best price on one: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=389248

jhansman
September 12, 2008, 09:54 PM
One of the best .22LRs available, and perhaps the best for the $$. Check over on the CZ forum on Rimfire Central for detailed info.

IndianaBoy
September 12, 2008, 10:09 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/gnieman/Lunch_Point.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/gnieman/lux029_small_dist.jpg

dreamer56
September 12, 2008, 10:19 PM
Agreed - been wanting one for over a year and finally ran into a CZ Lux - iron sights - a guy was sighting in his deer rifle the other day and he walked over to look at the Lux - then he looked downrange and said "what are you shooting at!" - I had him look through the spotting scope at the target 100 yards downrange and he just laughed - "you are doing that with iron sights? oh my gosh!"

They really are terrific. :)

Ed from Maine
September 12, 2008, 10:28 PM
first got a 452 Luxe in .22LR, am out-shooting scoped rifles at 100 meters. More recently picked up slightly used 452 American in .22WMR, put a Nikon ProStaff 3X9 -40 scope on it, just awesome. Don't see how you can go wrong.

MIL-DOT
September 12, 2008, 11:14 PM
I just shot an E-mail to most honorable moderator "correia" inquiring about the price on a 452 American in his upcoming group buy. In my original post,I was just doing a little PRE-pre-buy research, but between y'alls enthusiastic endorsements and his (as yet unknown) group-buy price,this may be a done deal !!! I'm already juggling scopes !!!! :D

Energy Jobs
November 22, 2008, 07:15 AM
CZ-USA 527 American Bolt Action Rifle, model 03020. 22 Hornet caliber. 21.9" barrel length. Blued finish. Walnut stock with checkering. 1" rings included. 5-round capacity
The CZ 527 American has all the features of the CZ 550 Lux rifle in an American-styled package. From its free-floating, hammer-forged barrel for accuracy and long life to its single set trigger, this was made with the American shooter in mind. The American features a detachable 5-round magazine, a classic American pattern Turkish stock, 18 LPI checkering with satin finish, hammer forged barrel, single set trigger, and recessed target crown. Rings included.
Designed to fit the small base calibers perfectly, the CZ 527 is a true micro length Mauser-style action and features controlled round feed, a detachable magazine, hammer forged barrel and single set trigger. The dovetail on all CZ 527s is 16mm.

ifit
November 22, 2008, 07:28 AM
i recommend any cz452, i had a hard time deciding which one, then finally decided on the 452fs Full Stock, some pics of the fs and range results

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/452015.jpg

from the factory
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/452fs003.jpg

then i put a scope, and mybest 5 shot group top right
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/452fs001.jpg

now im really thinkin of gettin a 527 varmint kevlar .223

aka108
November 22, 2008, 09:00 AM
Bought a 453 last year and put a leupold VX1 on it. Shoots a nice group with either Aguila or Eley Sport ammo. Maybe a bit more accurate than my old Rem 512 and definitely more accurate by far than the Ruger 77/22. Have a
Anschutz 1502 on order and it will be interesting to see how the CZ and Annie do side by side.

Harve Curry
November 22, 2008, 09:23 AM
Wow, those are some nice, accurate rifles!
Whatever the Czeck's are doing, Ruger needs to copy.

Citadel99
November 22, 2008, 09:29 AM
I just purchased a 452 LUX about a month ago. Installed a Brooks trigger kit Wednesday evening. Be careful! I installed the lightest spring. A couple minutes later a squirrel farted in a nearby tree and the sear engaged! I like a light trigger but that was insane. Literally, the instant your finger would feel metal, the sear would engage. I changed out to a heavier spring and it's a thing of beauty.

Mark

Peter M. Eick
November 22, 2008, 10:38 AM
Accurate, Reliable and easy to shoot. That is a summary of my 452 varmint.

Doing it over again, I would buy the 453 because it has a better trigger and more adjustments then my 452. My boss went with the 453 and it was a better choice. The base 452's are a work in progress. You need to really get lucky to get a good trigger otherwise you are into a brooks kit (my route) or a new trigger like the rifle basix ones.

I bought the gun to shoot, not to work on and this is my one beef. It is good the way it is but I would have gladly paid another $200 to get it from the factory with a good crisp trigger pull and properly bedded or blocked in.

goldie
November 22, 2008, 11:05 AM
my friend has anschutz 22 bolts, & he bought a cz 22 bolt,he just had to have one because of the quality , solid action & workmanship,he really didnt need one but look,he got one anyway.that says alot...

J23
November 22, 2008, 11:12 AM
CZ452 Sillouette, CONSISTANTLY puts 10 shots into one ragged hole at 25; about a half inch at 50 and IF I can do it (with the Burris Mini 4x20) will shoot around an inch at 100. Well made, and ACCURATE.

I would recommend one to ANYONE without hesitation.

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