Setting up my 1100...


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VARifleman
September 11, 2008, 11:08 AM
I have an old 1100 with a 21" rifle sighted rem-choke barrel, and am getting ready to finish it off. I've had trouble finishing projects in the past cause I always start a new one before the last one is done :uhoh:, but this looks in reach now. I've got a limbsaver pad on it, and the stock is cut down a little so the length of pull is right.

Oh, and Awerbuck Shotgun 1 is on the list when he comes back to town next summer.

It patters a little more losely than I'd like (30 feet is the longest shot in my apartment, and the pattern is about 7" round), so this choke is in the list:

Trulock Precision Hunter Extended Skeet (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=159677)

I'd like more than 4+1, so:

Nordic Components +4 mag tube (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=174782/)
Nordic Components mag tube clamp with rail (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=667570)

And then a TLR-1 with new battery plate and remote switch

Buttstock sling attachement (http://www.opticsplanet.net/v-tac-butt-stock-attachment.html)
1.25" 2 point sling (http://www.opticsplanet.net/blackhawk-universal-tactical-sling-1-25-black.html)

I'll also be getting a 1/4" long threaded sling swivel stud, with the appropriate swivel for the clamp.

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Pete409
September 11, 2008, 03:33 PM
A 7" pattern at 10 yards doesn't sound very "loose" to me. What choke do you have in the gun now? I'm not sure that a Skeet choke would be any tighter.

Besides, a flush choke would accomplish the same thing at about 1/2 the price, but it might not have the "cool" factor you're looking for.

oneounceload
September 11, 2008, 03:54 PM
What's wrong with 7" at 10 yards??

1KPerDay
September 11, 2008, 04:27 PM
You pattern your shotgun in your apartment?

VARifleman
September 11, 2008, 04:29 PM
I have an IC. Skeet 2 is one step above that. I want the shotgun to have a tighter pattern so that I can make more precise shots with it if need be. The reason for the extended choke is because it seems like the mag extension will be a little past the barrel and an extended choke would bring it about flush.

No, I don't pattern it in it, I pattern it for it at the local range.

1KPerDay
September 11, 2008, 04:37 PM
D'oh... I sure read that wrong. :D

Gordon
September 11, 2008, 10:51 PM
Although I like the Remington factory extension the Nordic one is the way to go if you don't go for a Surefire forend.Be sure to use a click cap or rocker paddle switch and not a coiled wire deal. Your sling plate single point and sidesaddle are the bomb too. Your stock is right.You might consider AO Tritium inserts for the factory rifle sights.:cool:

Pete409
September 11, 2008, 10:54 PM
VAR,

If you are going to go tighter than IC, I suggest you go to at least a Modified choke. Skeet 2 is what some choke companies call Light Mod and it is only marginally tighter than an IC. It 10 yards, you might not see much, if any, difference.

VARifleman
September 11, 2008, 11:08 PM
Gordon, what do you mean a click cap or rocker paddle?
http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-plug-in-remote-switches-for-tlr-weapons-flashlights.html

That is what I had in mind.

Here's the light: http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-tlr1-weapon-mounted-flashlight.html

and the battery door: http://www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-tlr-battery-door-switch-assembly.html

For the rear sling swivel I was thinking about mounting a regular screw in one to the top left side of the stock, as it looks like that attachment I originally posted will come to where my cheek is. The LOP is 13", as a note.

ocharry
September 12, 2008, 11:47 AM
hi VA,,,this is my 1100 with a factory slug barrel and a 4 shot choate mag extention,,, as you can see it come to the end of the barrel

if you measure down the barrel to the bolt face it may very well be 22" like mine

my 870 measured to the bolt face to the end of the barrel is 20" and a 3 shot extention comes to the end of the barrel on it

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/5982/img2615dk1.jpg

i really think that IC choke will git er dun

my .02

ocharry

Pete409
September 12, 2008, 04:00 PM
VAR,

Just wondering. You've mentioned a variety of accessories and modifications, but what have you done to insure the reliable performance of this old shotgun?

Sights, chokes, and straps and things like that are nice, but they don't do much good if the gun jams on you due to worn parts or neglected maintenance.

Bob Hostetter
September 12, 2008, 04:22 PM
you can try these guys for some of the stuff you need.


www.tacttec.com

VARifleman
September 12, 2008, 06:06 PM
VAR,

Just wondering. You've mentioned a variety of accessories and modifications, but what have you done to insure the reliable performance of this old shotgun?

Sights, chokes, and straps and things like that are nice, but they don't do much good if the gun jams on you due to worn parts or neglected maintenance.
This is a good, and important comment. I've cleaned out the trigger, and the gas system is in very good shape, with a pristine O-ring. It has never failed in the hundreds of rounds I've shot out of it, no matter if it's slugs, buckshot, or birdshot. If there's anything to look for beyond those main points, please let me know so I don't miss anything.

1KPerDay
September 12, 2008, 06:32 PM
what's a good place to get 1100 o-rings, BTW?

VARifleman
September 12, 2008, 06:38 PM
McMaster - Size 21 for 12 gauge, 19 for 20 gauge, Viton O-rings, or:

http://www.ericwesselman.com/store/RemmyORing.html

1KPerDay
September 12, 2008, 06:43 PM
thank you

mcmaster has them for $10 for 50 for one of the options... any reason to buy that wessleman guy's?

Which durmometer... 75 or 90?
Which Viton Type?


Standard: Excellent weather, synthetic lubricant, chemical, and hydraulic fluid resistance.

Military Specification: These Viton O-rings have excellent chemical and oil resistance and meet MIL-R-83248C.

FEP-Encapsulated: Perfect for sealing corrosive fluids, and FEP encapsulation makes these O-rings virtually impervious to most solvents and chemicals. Excellent resistance to friction and compression makes them ideal for static sealing applications. Offers greater chemical resistance than silicone.

Gordon
September 12, 2008, 06:48 PM
This sling plate goes under your existing stock:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=364802&t=11082005
Put this on it!
http://store.thewilderness.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_8&products_id=4

The light you picked works well with it's rocker switch! If you mount it as rearward as it goes you can operate it without the superflous battery cover and glue on wired thingamabob- KISS.

I like this bolt handle- better than anyother:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=575180
As long as you are buying from Midway this little piece is the schizzle:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=786587&t=11082005
Lastly a Wolfes extra power spring kit frosts the cake:
http://www.gunsprings.com/RifleShotgun/Remington_RsNF.html#Rem%20740

VARifleman
September 12, 2008, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, Gordon. I'll think about them. I have until sometime next week until the mag tube comes back in.

1kperday

Standard Viton type
I got the 75 durometer, but you can get the 90 durometer if you want, as long as you aren't going to take it at under 5 F.

As for why to by from Erik, he's a very good shooter, and uses those in his gun.

1KPerDay
September 12, 2008, 07:03 PM
thanks again

Pete409
September 12, 2008, 10:28 PM
VAR,

In addition to a new O-ring, I would replace the recoil spring in the buttstock and the magazine spring. Both of these parts are critical for reliable operation.

Also, use a pipe cleaner or paper clip (straightened) and some solvent to make sure the gas ports in the bottom of the barrel are fully open.

Also remove the bolt assembly and complete trigger assembly and dunk them in some good solvent like kerosene or mineral spirits. Then after a good sloshing around, remove and allow to dry. Then lubricate lightly with Breakfree CLP or RemOil and reinstall in receiver.

BTW, when replacing the recoil spring and magazine spring, be sure they are lightly lubricated too and that the tube they run in is clean and lightly lubricated. I also like to put a light lubrication on the outside of the magazine tube where the action sleeve and piston ring run.

Lastly, be sure to try the ammo you plan to use for serious purposes in your gun before staking your life on it.

VARifleman
September 12, 2008, 10:33 PM
Thanks.

shoen1200
September 15, 2008, 11:24 AM
A Remington Carrier Assembly 1100 Competition Master works miracles for reloading on the fly.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=185213

And its cheaper than the add-on "Dave's Metal Works Easyloader Extended Carrier Release Bar " that Gorden mentioned in his post.

I had been using an 870 and now have swapped for my 1100.
I can shoot the 1100 faster and the recoil is the same as my 870 tactical that was equiped with the knoxx recoil reducing stock.
I prefer the "traditional" stock on my 1100 to the knoxx that is on my 870.
For me its faster handeling.

VARifleman
September 15, 2008, 12:56 PM
Thanks shoen1200, I found that out as well. Although my 870 wouldn't eject cheap birdshot shells and my 1100 has digested everything I've thrown at her. Just another reason that I went with this platform.

I actually added that carrier assembly earlier because while the DMW easyloader is the thing to have for 3 gun, it can get caught on clothing when switching to the pistol, or get caught on other things. Definitely a good addition on a home defense 1100.

VARifleman
September 15, 2008, 10:47 PM
I made a few adjustments to my order after some of the suggestions here and from my friends at home. Everything is on its way and hopefully will be here by the end of the week. I'll post pics in this thread when I've got it completed.

VARifleman
September 17, 2008, 11:04 PM
Well, I got the mag extension and clamp today. I was hoping that the light would be positioned so that it could light up the front bead, but that would require the clamp to be right up against the nut. Oh well, it makes it a nice black profile, still very fast. I used 222 (purple) loctite on the screws so it won't shake loose but I won't have much trouble getting it apart.

Here it is so far. You can see the Limbsaver pad, swivel stud in the stock (the clamp stud is coming tomorrow or friday), competition carrier, and mag extension and clamp in this first one.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/649173d1.jpg

Left side where the swivel stud will go:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/ef7d1d5f.jpg

Right side where TLR-1 will go (coming in tomorrow):

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/1be661f6.jpg

1KPerDay
September 17, 2008, 11:35 PM
That kicks butt. :cool:

VARifleman
September 17, 2008, 11:42 PM
Thanks man. I'm excited about this project cause it actually has an end in sight. The 700...not so much...and that's really scary. :what:

VARifleman
September 18, 2008, 12:37 AM
Ok...just did some drills with it. Things of note...

Loaded with buckshot, it is quite heavy.
It's still fast from lying down on my bed to gun pointed at the door.
It's still fast to gun pointed to window.
It balances right in front of the action.
Modding guns is fun.

VARifleman
September 18, 2008, 05:42 PM
Got everything in today.

New thing about the TLR-1, it has an orange peel reflector, so it gives a nice even center instead of a stepped center. Definitely happy about that.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/97c8552b.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/409c3af5.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/2d0362fd.jpg

The swivel stud is mounted on the end instead of the middle so that I could get the right clocking of the stud. It's held in with quite a bit of blue loctite as I don't want it to go anywhere. It is short enough that it isn't jammed down on the clamp screw. That was lucky, as well as getting the choke and mag extension to be exactly lined up.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/f82162e3.jpg

The mesa tactical side saddle looks very sturdy, but I wish it wasn't so matte. Oh well, it'll be fine.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/21057c5d.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/TAKnight/34d97653.jpg

VARifleman
September 19, 2008, 04:58 PM
I'm thinking about taking is skeet shooting tomorrow. Haven't decided yet.

Gordon
September 19, 2008, 05:44 PM
Are you left handed? The stud appears where your cheek goes for a righty. The light should be back closer to foreend unless you have gone the pressure pad route, which will proly bounce off and on under recoil in rapid fire.

VARifleman
September 19, 2008, 07:34 PM
No, I'm right handed. That stud with sling on it is behind my cheek, and tightens up nicely without cutting into my neck. I am using a pad, and will find out tomorrow how everything does in recoil. That and I get to pattern a whole lot of different loads and decide on remington slugs or Brenneke KOs. I'll post the results tomorrow evening sometime.

VARifleman
September 21, 2008, 06:58 PM
Well, I shot a round of skeet and a round of trap. Skeet was the usual, lucky to hit 7 birds way, but I hit 18 birds in trap, the trap guys were surprised, and very nice the whole time. I'll have to shoot some more trap with it, maybe after I get an Imp Mod choke though.

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