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45Frank
September 11, 2008, 01:02 PM
Good Day;

Looking for something different in a single action revolver since thats what I like.

searched some websites and came up with a Taurus 44-40 or a 38-40 anybody have any experience with either one or have some other opinions. Have or already have most of the regulars the 44's, 45's, 357's. Like different things last purchase was a .32 H&R mag., :)neat little gun I like it.
Thanks

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foghornl
September 11, 2008, 03:03 PM
See if you can find a Ruger Blackhawk in .30Carbine to fill in that "something different" niche.

I have often heard of these, but only seen 1 .30Carbine Ruger.

Jim March
September 11, 2008, 04:28 PM
The Taurus Gaucho series has had a lot of quality control complaints.

45Frank
September 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
Well I'm on may way to look at some Uberti's. There's one a 1873 Cattleman in 38/40 44/40 and a 32/30.
We'll see how things look.
Any thoughts ?

BlkHawk73
September 11, 2008, 07:45 PM
I can attest to wanting something a bi different - same here. Just remember the ammo availability and such with the less-common chamberings. Even reloading I'd rather keep the components to a somewhat comonality if at all possible. I finally saw that I basically had all the chamberings I wanted within reason and stated looking at making more personalized S/A's. Change apart hre, another part there and you can make some interesting variants not otherwise available. Especially with the Ruger's. Have completed two thus far and a third getting a full makeover is soon to head off to the 'smith.
Just another thing to consider.

I can agree on the .30 carbine BH, they're great fun and darn accurate! Also can agree on hearing much to do with Taurus Gaucho QC issues.

calaverasslim
September 11, 2008, 08:00 PM
While 30 carbine is different, availability of anything less than a 7.5" barrel is rare. I hate to say also, that the 30 carbine in a pistol is somewhat anemic.

I strongly prefer the 44wcf(44-40) cartridge. Ammo availability is ok but somewhat expensive as is all ammo now. Handloading is the way to go.

I have to agree with Jim Marsh about the Taurus, stay away from it.

Good luck

JesseL
September 11, 2008, 08:40 PM
I really like my Blackhawk in .41 Magnum with the 4-5/8" barrel.

don95sml
September 11, 2008, 08:42 PM
For "something different" but still reeking of old west nastalgia, may I suggest looking at a top-break revolver to supplement your single-actions. Assuming you would prefer a more common caliber such as .38 Special, check out offerings by Navy Arms, Uberti, and Beretta. I recently bought a Uberti "Wells Fargo" model that has a 5-1/2" barrel, chambered in .38 Special. It's a great gun, without the extreme forward balance of 7-1/2" barrel models. The only thing I could wish for is adjustable sights - and to my dismay it wasn't too much later that Beretta introduced the Laramie with adjustable sights! Unfortunately, none of these guns come cheap, due to the limited market. And your reference to Taurus may indicate a very limited budget. Still, I thought I would throw this suggestion in for future consideration.

almostfree
September 11, 2008, 09:39 PM
I'll second the blackhawk in .41 mag.

Colt46
September 12, 2008, 01:37 AM
I'd heard it was QC issues as well.
The New Vaquero is a sweet, modernized, version of the old SAA. Pretty much the same heft and feel of the original with Ruger's legendary reliablity.
Anything by Uberti(Cimarron, Navy arms, EMF) will be good quality for a very decent price. I'd suggest going with .45 colt
Pretty much the definitive caliber when it comes to the old SAA designs.

45Frank
September 12, 2008, 08:08 AM
Wow never thought of the options. I haven't heard much good about the Tauruses.

I wish Ruger would expand their caliber availability, Already have a 45Colt, 32 H&R, and a 38 in Single actions, Sold the 44mag in S&W back in the Murray lawn mower days.

I don't like the 30 but I di like the top break idea.

Thanks

tinygnat219
September 12, 2008, 08:24 AM
Get yourself a Soldier's Model Single Action 1895 Nagant. It'll make you wonder why the Russians switched from the S&W No. 3.

cpirtle
September 12, 2008, 05:05 PM
I have to go with Don95sml on this one. Maybe instead of a caliber variation go for a gun variation.

I have 3 pair's of SA's I use for cowboy shoots but this set is my favorite.. Consecutive serial number Laramie's..

http://www.pirtleranch.com/images/Guns/Beretta_Laramie/100_2424.JPG

Stainz
September 12, 2008, 06:09 PM
Get a top break in .44 Russian. The 'Wells Fargo' model - Navy Arms/Uberti - is the shortie, I think. Load some 240gr LSWC/LRNFP over 3.5gr Titegroup in some Starline .44 Russian brass, standard LP primer. It'll make from 692 fps from a 3" tube to 725 fps from a 6" tube. That's 'major' power factor from a 3" tube - but it sounds cool and feels like ferret flatulance. You'll have history going for you with a S&W #3 Italian clone - the original was the first mass-produced centerfire round and revolver - from 1871 - two years before the .45 Colt SAA. In fact, it would be well into the next century before Colt and it's SAA caught up with the first decade of S&W's .44 Russian production. Admittedly, most went to Europe and Russia, but many were preferred by target/trick shooters and bad guys alike because of the accuracy and fast reload they afforded.

The really good news is that a 4-die Lee Carbide .44 Special/Magnum revolver die set can be ground down on the face for a better sizing of the short brass - and, as I said, Starline makes the brass, too. The lead is the common .44 Special/Magnum .430/.431" and when loaded, you can pop them in a .44 Special or Magnum chambered revolver, too. Neat little cartridge.

Stainz

tinygnat219
September 12, 2008, 11:37 PM
cpirtle,

How do those shoot?

Here's my CAS rig:
http://www.outdoors.net/site/images/31927.jpg
Here are two of my main match pistols for Cowboy Action Shooting, along with my spare.

The two pictured here are 1895 Nagant Revolvers in custom made holsters. The other is a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible in a "Universal" Holster.

MikeWSC
September 13, 2008, 12:19 AM
Hey Frank,

What about that .256 Ruger (off the top of my head, is the cal right?) , I've never held one but seen pics and have always wanted one. Or a S & W .22 Jet, its not a S/A but still neat.

Best......... Mike

cpirtle
September 13, 2008, 01:03 AM
How do those shoot?

I love shooting them. They are not quite as fast as my Blackhawks or Vaquero's but I would say the difference is well under a second per stage lost. Some of that could be newness as I've only shot a few matches with them.

Accuracy wise they are like laser beams.

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