[g43]

Hi,

I have a Walter PPK, when the slide is pulled back to load the bullet, it gets jammed, Ive check the slide and everithing seems to be OK, also the loader spring seems to be OK, what im I missing?

Thanks in advance

[Jim K]

The gun is supposed to lock back on an empty magazine, so maybe there is some misunderstanding.

If you load starting with the gun empty and a full magazine, just insert the magazine and then work the slide to chamber the first round.

If you start with an empty magazine, or if you empty the magazine in firing, the slide will lock back. Then if you want to keep shooting, replace the empty magazine with a full one, insert it, and pull the slide back slightly to free the slide lock and chamber the top round in the magazine.

If the slide is locked back due to an empty magazine, and you want to release it without loading the chamber, remove the magazine or drop it down an inch or so, then retract the slide slightly and release it.

Jim

[WNTFW]

Make sure the mag is OK. Check for a crack above the notch in the mag that the mag release fits in it. Is the top round coming off the the mag OK when checked by hand out of the gun?

Also have you had the gun working prior to this? Is this a new acquisition of a new problem?

[g43]

Jim thanks for answering, i think I have explained myself wrong, my english is not so good sometimes. I know what you mean, but thats not the problem. The gun, with a full magazine, when I pull the slide back to load it, it jams.
The slide pushes the bullet out of the magazine to enter in it in the barrel but instead the bullet remains stuck in the breech and the slide half way to the front position.
There is something wrong when the slide moves in to the front position.
WNTFW, thanks for answering aswell, I thinkyou might be right, as the problem is the feeding. As soon as I check it again ill make you know if is that.

The gun used to work fine, but it started to jam weeks ago.

[rcmodel]

Did you switch ammo brand or bullet type?

Early PPK's were not able to play well with some of the modern JHP bullet designs. Back in the day, FMJ-RN was all there was, and that's what they were made to feed.

rcmodel

[JCUMM2]

I had a similar problem with a new PPK/S. It was mostly ammo dependent. Radiusing then polishing the barrel ramp and hood edges solved the problem.

[loosecannon]

Try this simple test. Pull the slide back with force so that it goes as far back as possibe. Then release it. If you are not pulling it back 100% of its rearward travel, the bullet's case rim will not go under the extractor as the bullet leaves the magazine.

When the slide is locked back and you put in a loaded magazine, do the same thing. Pull back hard and let go. Keep your hand off slide when you let go.

I hope this helps.

[g43]

Looks like loosecannon is right, when pulling the slide bakwardws as fast and far as possible and then keeping the hand off leting go the slide, then it loads at least 9 out of 10 times. I find out that there is no problem loading the gun when the mag has more than 1 bullet inside, it only jams whith the last bullet, and sometimes with the first of a full mag, but as loosecannon said, if you pull the slide back fast and far enought it wont jam.

And about storing the gun, how shoud I keep it? the gun usually has 4 or 5 bullets in the mag permanently, and another one in the breech, coud it be bad for the mag spring to be like that all the time?

Thanks for the help!

[BHP FAN]

Try to get at least one more magazine,that way you can rotate which one is loaded,and your mag springs will last longer.

[loosecannon]

On all pistol mags, my habit is to load one less than capacity. So, you can put in a full mag, load the chamber, and not replace the round in the mag.

My reason is that having slightly less upward pressure from the spring may decrease the probability of a mis-feed. This upward pressure could delay the slide velocity somewhat, and this concern--for me-- is very high with the small pocket-type pistols.


The experts say that mag springs are not affected by compression over time. I have observed this to be true. BUT. I almost never load to full capacity.

I agree that ideally you would have extra magazines for rotation. The best advice is: if you get a defective or troublesome mag, throw it away if it will not be replaced under warranty. Don't save it for practice.

[jdomin]

replace the magazine