At the range with the CZ 75...
CZ 75 BD
September 7, 2003, 08:02 PM
The rear sight came off today! :fire: No wonder I couldn't hit the plates! Don't know how long it has been loose, hope the factory will re-mount at N/C. Any experience with CZ service?:confused:
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SirPorl
September 7, 2003, 08:18 PM
Sorry to hear about your misfortunes. I am also a CZ75BD owner. While I have never personally had to deal with CZ's service, hopefully I never will either, the folks over at the CZForum seem to mostly say that CZ's service is top notch. They should take care of ya. Goodluck
SirPorl
BevrFevr
September 8, 2003, 09:20 AM
was it fixed or adjustable? -bevr
PCRCCW
September 8, 2003, 09:56 AM
Actually, the 75's only came with fixed sights. The 85's came with adj's.
This is very strange...from my experience, friends and gun smiths who work on CZ's..the rear sight is very very tight. So...hey I guess anything is possible.
Dont fret on CZUSA's service..Mike @ CZ will get you taken care of in good fashion. You can call them @ 800-955-4486
Let us know how it turns out...Shoot well
CZ 75 BD
September 8, 2003, 10:00 AM
Fixed, BD
Sven
September 8, 2003, 11:18 AM
Been thinking about new sights for my CZ. If this happened to me, I'd grab a gunparts catalog and start browsing. Still looking for low-profile but high-visability replacements sights for my CZ75, ideally adjustable.
mr. e
September 9, 2003, 06:21 AM
I bought a Mil surplus CZ75B a few years ago with night sights. I had a problem with the rear sight coming loose and slipping around in the dovetail. On top of that, the POI was about 4 in. low at 15 yds. I realized that the sights the importer stuck in the pistol aren't the right ones.
Anyway, I liked the gun so much that I had MMC sights put in. I was able to keep the front sight that came with the pistol. Now it has low profile, adjustable, night sights and shoots like a champ.
BevrFevr
September 9, 2003, 08:58 AM
Those that I have seen are generally solid as a rock. Just proves to me that as much as I love cz's I can't just buy a gun on reputation alone.
If I could do it over I might put adjustables on mine. I hesitate to put them on a gun that is a defense pistol but mine sees much more duty as a range gun. On the range I would like to move my POI 2.5-3.5 inches to the right at 50'. In most of my defensive type shooting I don't really use the sights much.
I'm afraid if I try to drift them myself I will end up with them falling of sometime too.
-bevr
railroader
September 9, 2003, 05:17 PM
BevrFevr, to move the point of aim 2 or 3 inches at 50 feet you would have to move the rear very little. If they would fall out from that I would think they would have fallen out already. On my 75b I installed adjustables. I had to really wack the factory sight to get it out. Mark
BevrFevr
September 9, 2003, 06:08 PM
and then back again. I should just do it and get it over with. Will a brass hammer get it done?
I'm just tired of constantly compensating with this pistol. It would be sweet to just pick it up and aim through perfectly aligned sights. I have lot's of room for improvement in my shooting ability. But having the sights straight would sure make it more fun.
Once I dialed in my .357 S&W it has been nothing but grins ever since. God I love that thing. I should go to the range tonight.
I love having nothing to blame but myself for a miss. It makes me work harder, shoot more, get better. Slowly of course.
-bevr
CZ 75 BD
September 9, 2003, 06:30 PM
Will be in KC Wed. I'll post the results>:cool:
Walt Sherrill
September 9, 2003, 07:33 PM
Do you still have the sight?
If so, there's no reason to send it back to CZ! Take it to a local gunsmith, or do the repair yourself.
(Use a pointed punch to "ding" the inside of the rear sight dovetail. This will make the center of where the punch hits drop, but will raise some surrounding metal. The raised metal, if you do it right, will make the rear sight fit more snuggly in the dovetail.
Sending it back will put you without a gun, will cost FedEx shipping, etc. Even if they're quick and repair it and send it back, it will be costly.
(You could, of course, send ONLY the slide -- which doesn't require anything special, and doesn't require FedEx or UPS 2nd day air.)
railroader
September 10, 2003, 01:43 AM
BevrFevr, if you mark the slide with a sharp pencil you can see exactly how much the sight moves when you hit it. Move it a little then shoot it. Move it more if you need to. When I moved my sight I used a piece of hardwood for a punch and hit it with a ballpeen hammer. You will need either a padded vice or someone to hold your gun still on a say a piece of carpet to protect the finish while you are hitting the sight. Mark
BevrFevr
September 10, 2003, 11:35 AM
Thanks!
That sounds like the perfect solution. It really only needs to move a hair or two. I would have sat on my fat ??? waiting to get a brass hammer "someday" but I have hardwood, ball peen hammer and a vice. And it sounds fun. The gun is almost perfect and I should leave well enough alone but hey tinkering is fun.
CZ75BD,
I support you sending in the whole gun cause at least you have the chance that they will set the sights for your exact pistol. Maybe, maybe not, but there is the chance. If you just send the slide, god only knows where your POI will be when you get it back and put it all together.
Good Luck with it!
-bevr
CZ 75 BD
September 10, 2003, 12:06 PM
My thoughts exactly. The sight was sent along with, Walt. The gun was mfg 1999, I bought new in 2003. 5 year warranty. Hoping for a bit of lagniappe as well. The shipping cost is not an issue for me.
Mikul
September 10, 2003, 12:15 PM
I installed my Trijicon night sights. Those sights are in TIGHT. I couldn't believe how hard I was hammering to get it to move and even when it did move it was just a hair. Buy a brass punch and use a regular hammer and all will be well.
Walt Sherrill
September 10, 2003, 01:02 PM
Believe it or not, just because the factory "sights" in the gun, doesn't mean it will shoot to point of aim for you...
That's why I suggested sending the slide only. Once the sights are in the dovetail, you can shift them enough with a wooden dowel (or brass punch) to get the gun properly sighted.
Moving the rear sight can be a pain with CZs. With several I've owned, it has almost taken an act of God to move them!. (My first 75B, it took a brass punch and a BIG HAMMER, and you really had to slam the sucker.) Some shooters I've exchanged messages with have had sights that are loose, as was the case with the original message in this chain.
I don't like hitting/tapping night sights with a brass punch... If you break the vials -- it isn't hard -- the manufacturer isn't going to make them good for you, and you're out a good bit of money. A sight pusher is the best way, if the dovetail is tight, at all.
I replaced the factory sights in my 75B Compact the other days with some Meprolight night sights -- and did it without a sight pusher. It was hard getting the factory sights out, but the Meprolights went in with only minor force required. The replacement night sights are snug enough to not move around, and I only had to tap them a few times with a nylon punch. I was anticipating the worst, and did this at a nearby range, where I could have borrowed their "universal" sight pusher. Didn't need it.
When the rear sight is really tight, you can sand the bottom of the sight to remove a thin, thin layer of metal -- and that'll eventually let the sight move a little more easily in the dovetail.
dleong
September 10, 2003, 03:17 PM
Use a pointed punch to "ding" the inside of the rear sight dovetail. This will make the center of where the punch hits drop, but will raise some surrounding metal. The raised metal, if you do it right, will make the rear sight fit more snuggly in the dovetail.
Just thought I'd mention that Walt's suggestion really does work. It is simplicity itself!
Some time ago, the adjustable rear sight on my CZ 100 started to come loose. I was all set to ship it back to CZ, when Walt posted his suggestion on CZForum. A light tap with a center punch in the dovetail was all it took to tighten up the fit and secure the rear sight in place. It has not come loose since, and I doubt it ever will.
DL
CZ 75 BD
September 10, 2003, 04:55 PM
and he offered an adjustable sight as replacement. He said it has one nick from removing it from another pistol, but is functionally perfect. Exactly what I was looking for! :D Should go out by Friday, back in my hands Monday! Will follow-up when I get the pistol. :cool:
BevrFevr
September 10, 2003, 06:01 PM
that is the way things should work.
-bevr
CZ 75 BD
September 12, 2003, 03:51 PM
with a pkg from KC. The CZ was fitted with adj sights, cleaned and oiled. To recap: shipped Monday, CZ called Wed., re-shipped Thu. and back in my hands on Fri., better than when I bought it. :D And much better than I expected. Going to the ball game tomorrow, so no range time today.
:cool:
Happy camper here.
George Hill
September 12, 2003, 06:16 PM
Excellent! That's good to know. Thanks for letting us know.
Note: CZ-USA really does have good and fast service.
Got it! :D
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