What do you like and/or dislike about Sig Saur?


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GunLvrNLearner
September 13, 2008, 12:09 AM
The range i go to rents them in 9,40,and 45 so soon i'll get hands on experience..but for now I am up for tested users


Also whats usually the price range on new Sigs 500 for a 2022 to about 800 for others???

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GunLvrNLearner
September 13, 2008, 12:17 AM
i FOUND MY LIST...THE RANGE HERE HAS

Sig 239 9mm
Sig 229 40
Sig 220 45

Disaster
September 13, 2008, 12:20 AM
I dislike that they can't be carried cocked and locked. I dislike that they all don't have DA triggers as nice as the P250's. I dislike that they are so darn expensive.

The Lone Haranguer
September 13, 2008, 12:28 AM
Highs: reliability, accuracy, sights/sight picture (copied by Kahr), customer service. Lows: don't fit my hand, very long DA trigger pull.

I assume we are talking about the "classic" German-made P-series (or those based on that design) and not their 1911s. One of those is how I got to experience the customer service. :rolleyes:;)

Norstrog
September 13, 2008, 12:58 AM
Haven't had the chance to shoot my P239 9mm yet so can't add too much.

I like the fact that the receiver is metal (alloy) rather than plastic
I like the night sights
I like the DAK trigger pull it's smooth and has a good feel to it
I like the Double Strike Capability
I like the width and size of the gun

I dislike the fact that a new Sig can run you $150 to $200 more than a Glock.
I dislike the fact that the magazines cost $40

Overall, without taking it to the range, I don't regret spending the extra money. The overall feel of the weapon is better than the Glock I used to own. My advice in general is shoot several different manufacturers weapons that are similar in size and the same caliber. Go home evaluate your experience then buy the one you liked best. If that happens to be the cheapest then great if it's more expensive cough up the extra bucks you wont regret it.

BamBam-31
September 13, 2008, 02:46 AM
Likes:
--Superbly accurate and reliable
--Nice fit and finish
--Nice triggers OTOB (DA is heavy, but SA breaks crisp)
--Genius iron sights. Really the only non-black irons I can shoot well. I totally dig the way the rear sight is scalloped--cuts down on glare and helps you line up the tops. The bar-dot whites are also an inherently accurate set-up. Absolutely love 'em.

Dislikes:
--High bore axis
--Decocker bulge pushes my thumb out uncomfortably
--Slide lock is located in a problematic spot
--Expensive magazines
--Plastic grips don't feel solid in backstrap area (arg!)

Overall, top notch guns, IMHO.

mjrodney
September 13, 2008, 04:00 AM
Pro: They can be relied upon to go bang when you need them to. Well made.

Con: Long DA trigger pull. Some models have a rather large grip circumference.

gc70
September 13, 2008, 04:39 AM
Like: the decocker on DA/SA models is on the frame (where I can actually reach it) rather than the slide.

1BLINDREF
September 13, 2008, 08:32 AM
Likes,
reliable, well made, quality, fit my hands well, they point well for me, I shoot them well, high bore axis, classic good looks (the original "P" series), not plastic, no safety / decocker lever, DAK (DAO) trigger.

Dis-likes,
can't really think of any :scrutiny:
You could argue that their prices are high, but IMHO, the Sigs I like are worth it. You get what you pay for.
I'm not so much into the new "blinged out" Sigs, but the classic no-BS ones do it for me.

Norstrog wrote-
My advice in general is shoot several different manufacturers weapons that are similar in size and the same caliber. Go home evaluate your experience then buy the one you liked best. If that happens to be the cheapest then great if it's more expensive cough up the extra bucks you wont regret it.

That is the best advice you can get. It's what I post in every "What gun should I buy" thread.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/dexternikki/Sigs/IMG_3550.jpg

Sig perfection :D

atblis
September 13, 2008, 09:32 AM
Bad IMO
Triggers are so so.
Trigger reach is too short when hammer is cocked (large hands).
That DA first shot sucks.
Aluminum frame makes them a bit flippy when shooting.
Durability is good, but not great.
Due to popularity they are over valued.

Good
Usually above average accuracy
Generally very reliable
Well made

Deanimator
September 13, 2008, 09:46 AM
The only thing I don't like about them is that the trigger reach is too far for my hand, aside from the fact that I'm not thrilled with D/A - S/A guns that can't be carried cocked and locked, mostly for the same reason.

dairycreek
September 13, 2008, 09:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/dairycreek/SIGP220R.jpg

I have had this SIG 220 for several years. It has been 100% reliable with several K rounds through it. It is extremely accurate and my poor shooting does not do it adequate justice. I use it as a carry weapon and it is more than adequate for that purpose given a good holster and belt combo.

Personally, I like the DA/SA action and so I have no complaints there.

Overall the SIG is a quality piece of work.

Ohen Cepel
September 13, 2008, 09:54 AM
They make a short trigger for the people who don't like the stock version.

If I had to go to a fight with a pistol it would be a SIG. It's not perfect but for me the pro's of it outweigh it's con's more than other makers. Also, the 226 just fits my hand great.

shovel66
September 13, 2008, 10:07 AM
I own Glocks in 9mm .40 and .45acp. I also own and shoot a ful size Sig P220.
I shoot them all at the range a few times every month.

Likes for my Sig are...
No manual safety
Very accurate
Recoil minimal for .45
Good sight radius
Feels good in my hand
Built well

Dislikes....
Holds only 7+1 rounds (my .45 in Glock holds 13+1 and about the same size)
Very over priced for what you get
First trigger pull hard
Too large for me to conceal well
Replacement parts are costly and harder to get
Harder to customize

These are only my opinions based on the guns I currently own and have shot extensively. I would probably like on of their 1911s better than my P220. Oh well.

Shovel

Chipperman
September 13, 2008, 10:38 AM
They are great guns, but are not for me.

Here are my dislikes:
1. Can't carry cocked and locked
2. Yucky DA/SA transition
3. Not Lefty Friendly

LoadedDrum
September 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
I like the way the trigger feels. I like the quality.

I don't like the high bore axis. I don't like how they seem wider than compareable handguns. I don't like how they hold less rounds than a comparable Glock and yet are slightly larger in all dimensions except for barrel length.

farscott
September 13, 2008, 10:50 AM
Likes for me.

1) Always goes bang.
2) Very accurate, especially the .45 ACP P220.
3) Best SA/DA trigger I have ever used.


Dislikes for me.

1) Too big for my hands.
2) Plastic grips feel slick to me.
3) High-bore axis makes shot-to-shot recovery difficult for me.
4) Blockier than a 1911.

Purple95
September 13, 2008, 11:24 PM
Likes:
I wanted to list some "Likes" but I never got the chance to develop any because......

Dislikes:
Two years ago I purchased TWO brand new 239's; both DOA out of the box. One a plain 239 and the other a SAS model, both DAK. They sure were pretty, they sure didn't work.

I wanted to like them, I really did. I thought the 239 would be a great carry gun. But alas, no more Sigs for me.

Cheers,
dan :)

nero45acp
September 14, 2008, 01:32 AM
Likes: P220 9mm (euro/heel mag release), P225



Dislikes: The fact that they're no longer making the P220 9mm & the P225.




nero

makarovnik
September 14, 2008, 01:47 AM
I don't like the last name. Is it pronounced like sour or sewer? Neither sounds very appealing.

Almond27
September 14, 2008, 01:57 AM
SIG P250 is one neat design though didn't see any glocks or XD's that can do that yet just my opinion

GroovedG19
September 14, 2008, 02:08 AM
Have owned 3 Sigs and kept one.Personally prefer pistols with single action triggers.

9mmepiphany
September 14, 2008, 02:31 AM
Holds only 7+1 rounds (my .45 in Glock holds 13+1 and about the same size)
Very over priced for what you get
First trigger pull hard
Too large for me to conceal well
Replacement parts are costly and harder to get
Harder to customize

i actually usually carry mine with 8 rd mags...only because i don't like the way the 10 rounders stick out...i got mine for around $500 when a local store was clearing them out.

i had some action work done and it feels alot like a S&W M-10. i also use it as my primary CCW in a OWB holster. i liked it so much that i decide to have a little custom work done on it

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/9mmepiphany/DSC_0149.jpg

Don Gwinn
September 14, 2008, 08:43 AM
LIKES:
I've been shooting my P220 in competition since early August without cleaning it. No hiccups.
Nice accuracy--more than I can reliably use, in fact.
The only time I've ever had an issue that stopped the gun was when a trigger return spring broke.
SIG/Sauer will supposedly sell you a "Gun Pack" of the most commonly-broken parts so you can keep 'em on hand. I haven't gotten one yet.
Mine was cheap; it was made in "West Germany" in 1989 and I assume it was a police trade-in at some point.

I like the trigger OK. But then, I didn't learn on a 1911 with short travel; maybe if I had . . . . honestly, I don't even notice the transition in competition, and I figure if ever have to shoot for blood the tension will be even higher. I just see the sights and press the trigger, and the shots hit. Or I rush, or I don't see the picture, and I miss.

DISLIKES:

The P-Series has a pathological, co-dependent love affair with rust. I finally Dura-Coated mine. We'll see how that holds up.

Only one of my (factory) magazines drops free. I have to yank the others out.

I didn't like the grips either, so I replaced them, first with Hogue rubber and now with walnut.

The aforementioned high bore axis, which is certainly no worse than you average hair dryer.

I'm starting to think mine doesn't fit my hand all that well since handling the single-stack 1911 clone ParaUSA had me using at Blackwater. It's beginning to seem to me that I've been shifting my hand around to the point that my wrist was breaking a little. Whether that's a matter of fit or simply something I need to continue to train out of remains to be seen.

crushbup
September 14, 2008, 09:43 AM
Pros: Sig P210

Cons: All their guns are expensive, the P210 even more so

9mmepiphany
September 14, 2008, 11:13 AM
I didn't like the grips either, so I replaced them, first with Hogue rubber and now with walnut.

The aforementioned high bore axis, which is certainly no worse than you average hair dryer.

I'm starting to think mine doesn't fit my hand all that well since handling the single-stack 1911 clone

give the Hogue Aluminum grips a try. they're thinner and flatter like 1911 stocks, i've found most wood grips too "round". if your mags aren't dropping free, you might check your grip screws or try Mec-gar mags

9x19sig
September 14, 2008, 07:10 PM
I had a W. German 220 that was extremely well made, the slide felt like it was rolling on ball bearings. It was pretty accurate but the first DA shot I didn't care for at all. When I fell on hard times I had to sell it along with something like 8 other guns, I'm only 24 so I'm sure I can find another before I kick the bucket.

hags
September 14, 2008, 07:31 PM
You asked for it.............

1) Bore axis too high.
2) DA/SA trigger
3) Grip/trigger reach too close, must be made for smaller hands.
4) Too expensive, I think they're priced high just to exude some kind of mystique as to why they're priced high, and you know what, it works!;)
5) Popular on TV shows, everytime I catch a glimpse of some cop or fedzilla agent show on TV that's what they have in their hands.
6) Shot recovery sucks, see #1 above.
7) The slides look stamped and probably are.
8) They went dealer direct not too long ago, then sent me a letter saying I was a chosen one, then they went back to selling to distributors. Beretta tried the same thing. I don't like Kimber's either and that is partly the reason, although not entirely.

There you go.
:evil:

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