Stoeger Cougar...anybody own one??


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Jack Reevez
September 13, 2008, 04:13 AM
Hi. I am planning to get myself a Stoeger Cougar. Its my understandding that these pistols are very cheap ..Something like US $350/- ( more or less) ...cheap as they are made in Turkey and labor is cheap there. Also that these pistols are very solid. reliable and rugged and are as good as the original Cougers made by Beretta.

If anyone ones one, i have a series of questions and would appreciate any input, good or bad.

1. Are the available in Washington Dc and for around what price?
2. Theres a hammerless model and one with a hammer. I wanna get the one with the hammer ( DA/SA).. which model is that?
3. Are there any good quality Sound suppressors ( silencers) available for this handgun?
4. Are 15 round magazines easily available for the stoegar?
5. My info about the quality... is it correct? Are these as reliable, rugged, solid and accurate as the beretta pistols?


Thanks very much friends..
Best regards,

jack

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Storm
September 13, 2008, 04:49 AM
4. Are 15 round magazines easily available for the stoegar?
5. My info about the quality... is it correct? Are these as reliable, rugged, solid and accurate as the beretta pistols?

I have hads no problems getting magazines for the Beretta which are the exact same.

My understanding is that as to reliability, rugedness, solidity, and accuraccy they are the same as the Beretta. The factory in Turkey is owned by Beretta with the same tooling that was originally used to make the Beretta Cougar with manufacture overseen with Beretta supervision and quality control. The only difference that I have heard is that the finish on the Stoeger may not be quite as good as the original Beretta in subtle ways. That is not based on my personal observations but only what I've heard a number of times. Had Stoeger made a Mini I would not have hesitated to buy one, but I'm still glad mine is a Beretta.

mjrodney
September 13, 2008, 04:54 AM
A co-worker purchased a Cougar about 6 months ago and he remains happy with it.

I own a Stoeger O/U and to me, the quality is more than acceptable for the price.

FieroCDSP
September 14, 2008, 12:09 AM
I love my cougar 9mm. The only differences between the Beretta and the Stoeger are the country it's made in (it's even made on the same machines that Beretta shipped over), the finish (the Stoeger's finish is kinda on the cheap side, but rugged), and the price (nearly half of the Beretta).

Availiability is okay to slim in most places.

This brings us to your other questions.

1. Are the available in Washington Dc and for around what price?
-- I doubt it. You can hardly get a revolver in DC right now, and until congress passes the pro-2A (DC, get off your butt) act, having a semi-auto with a double-stack mag is going to be no-go (It's considered an MG by DC's rules).

2. Theres a hammerless model and one with a hammer. I wanna get the one with the hammer
--There are only two models, the 8000(9mm) and the 8040(40S&W), both have hammers. If you have seen one without a hammer, it's aftermarket.

3. Are there any good quality Sound suppressors ( silencers) available for this handgun?
--With suppressors, it's not the can that determines your fit, it's the barrel. I don't know if anyone makes a rotating-lock threaded barrel for this gun. I've never checked, but given the Cougar's limited sales even at Beretta, I'd doubt it. You're likely looking at a 250-300 dollar barrel.

Also, do you really think you can get your local LEO to sign off on a Class III restricted item if you can't even have a (limit capacity)10 round magazine?

4. Are 15 round magazines easily available for the stoegar?

--Sorta. $40 seems to be the standard price. The Beretta mags will work, and those are out there, again about $40.

5. My info about the quality... is it correct? Are these as reliable, rugged, solid and accurate as the beretta pistols

Seems to be. Again, cosmeticly they are a bit inferior, but function is not a matter of beauty. Just look at Glocks.

kylethunder380
September 14, 2008, 12:32 AM
The 9mm is awesome other than the finish (especially for the price!). And by that I mean the cosmetics of the finish; I can't comment on the durability of the finish. Upon holding it, you know right away it is a quality piece. It also has the rotating barrel for increased accuracy. To describe it in one word: solid.

-Kyle

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