any PD's or cops still using revolvers?


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.380awsome
September 13, 2008, 11:45 AM
does anyone know a police department that still uses the revolver?

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VHinch
September 13, 2008, 11:58 AM
There are a couple around here that don't issue revolvers, but do have them on the approved list for carry if privately purchased.

Dave Markowitz
September 13, 2008, 12:05 PM
Every so often I'll see an older Philly cop with a revolver.

rcmodel
September 13, 2008, 12:39 PM
I was watching COPS on TV last week and it appeared to me the Ft. Worth police are still carrying S&W's.

At least the ones that were doing the arresting were.

rcmodel

cottonmouth
September 13, 2008, 12:39 PM
My department issues Glock 22's but if I could I'd be glad to carry a S&W wheel gun. The younger officers feel they need the high cap magazines and most of them will load 15 in the magazine, chamber a round and then add the 16th round. I'll admit it's good to have the extra rounds but six .357's and a couple speed loaders would suit me.

J.B.

NonConformist
September 13, 2008, 12:47 PM
Ive seen some of the bigger cities having streetcops w/ revolvers still, Chicago being one I saw recently

PRM
September 13, 2008, 01:33 PM
There are a few departments that I know of that give the option for uniformed officers. You still see some detectives carrying snubs. Quite a few officers carry them as back-up and off duty weapons especially the lightweight and shrouded hammer models.

They are still there but more and more are going with semi-autos.

I'm one of the lucky ones who have the option. I've carried semi-autos and they are an excellent choice. But, I am more used to the wheel gun and as long as I have an option, I will carry one.

george29
September 13, 2008, 01:37 PM
I too saw a Chicago Cop with a revolver as his primary. Either a 686 or something similar (hard to tell in the holster).

Rampant_Colt
September 13, 2008, 01:56 PM
Chicago PD old-timers still do - i saw one at Jazzfest & Navy Pier last week

I have a hilarious photo of CPD officer "Sugar Cookie" wearing his 686 that i'll share with y'all when i locate it :p


I thought it had his revolver:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3456/clydes1id9.jpg

AMBASSADOR
September 13, 2008, 02:01 PM
When I retired back in 03,there were still some old time cops wearing revolvers in N.Y.C.

loneviking
September 13, 2008, 02:01 PM
The Cal. DOC all use 686's. I talked to several of these guys this last weekend and I asked if the department would ever be switching over. One guy smiled and said 'why'? He said, 'we don't have problems with accidental discharges and the guns have more power than anything short of a .44 magnum.' I asked about only having six, and he said 'in our jobs we only have to worry about one, maybe two bad guys--often with cuffs or leg chains on'.

SaxonPig
September 13, 2008, 04:19 PM
About 2 years ago I was driving through Southwestern Arkansas and I saw a work crew clearing brush along the highway. They were obviously inmates and the 2 mounted officers supervising looked like they were wearing sheriff's office uniforms although maybe they were state prison guards. I could see one of the sidearms and it was a blued 4" S&W N frame revolver.

Drgong
September 13, 2008, 06:48 PM
DOC and Detectives still use revolvers a lot.

That and it is still VERY common for them to use it at as a backup.

slustan83
September 13, 2008, 11:33 PM
Not P.D. but NYS corrections carries model 10's. We should finally get the trooper hand me down glock 17's w/in the next few years.

Really lets ya know where ya stand in the scheme of things huh?

un_lucky
September 13, 2008, 11:46 PM
Revolvers are pretty standard in corrections mostly because there not issued to individual officers just checked out daily.

45Guy
September 13, 2008, 11:56 PM
Haven't seen any officers with them, but in '05 I the security at MEPS in Milwaukee, WI were carrying revolvers. No clue what kind as I wasn't as into revolvers as I am now.

Matthew Temkin
September 14, 2008, 12:22 AM
I still see an occasional NYPD copper carrying one.

W.E.G.
September 14, 2008, 12:33 AM
DMV police in Virginia still use them.

I think the individual officers have to furnish their own firearm.

I recently saw one with a Rossi.

Glock-IT
September 14, 2008, 12:33 AM
Here In Lubbock, TX, A lot of the Local Independent School District Police Depts. carry revolvers.

Lurp
September 14, 2008, 12:40 AM
One of my friends fathers is a cop in Chicago and he still carries a S&W .357magnum. He said the older guys still get the option of what they carry and many of them still carry wheel guns.

RandomMan
September 14, 2008, 12:43 AM
I was stopped by an Austin PD officer the otherday. He had a plaque on his uniform that gave his name and said, "23 years of service". He was carrying a 4" Smith and Wesson 686, two speed loaders, and two dump pouches on his belt.

-Rob

hoptob
September 14, 2008, 02:25 AM
...Nagant means "cute" in russian...

Uh? Thought Leon was Belgian...

Mike

Loomis
September 14, 2008, 02:30 AM
I still see the older cops that actually "walk the beat" in the tourist areas wearing very old revolvers.

Checkman
September 14, 2008, 04:34 PM
There are still a couple thousand officers (approximately) with the New York City Police Department who carry revolvers. They were employed before the NYPD transitioned to semi-autos in 1994 and were given the option of going to autos or retaining their revolvers. When they retire the revolvers are phased out. Eventually there will be no revolvers in service with the NYPD.

JFrame
September 14, 2008, 05:10 PM
I recall that, for the longest time, GIGN (the elite French anti-terrorism unit) used Manurhin .357 magnums as their duty weapons... I wonder if they still do? From what I hear, collectively, the GIGN may have been the finest revolver-shooting unit in the world (with apologies to Border Patrol, Texas Rangers, etc.).

florida1098
September 14, 2008, 05:22 PM
NYPD still carry model 10's and 64's if they were originally trained with them and never switched to semi's. When I left in 04 there were about 4000 of us still with wheel guns. My brother-in-law still there says there about 2000 w/revolvers according to dep't memos.
Left mine in my locker when I retired and never went back for it. At the time local gun shops were only paying $25 for them. Was'nt even woth my time or gas to sell for that.

Drgong
September 14, 2008, 06:33 PM
Uh? Thought Leon was Belgian...

Mike

He is, but I had a good dozen girls tell me my Nagant was "Cute" thus the tag line...

Aaryq
September 14, 2008, 07:10 PM
My chief of Police in my hometown in ND rotates between a 1911 and a Smith & Wesson reovolver.

hoptob
September 15, 2008, 02:37 AM
Quote:
Uh? Thought Leon was Belgian...

Mike

He is, but I had a good dozen girls tell me my Nagant was "Cute" thus the tag line...
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Nagant means "cute" in russian...
Makes more sense now, Dr. Maybe I should get one too, I can think of some new pick up lines :)

Your story reminds me a scene I once saw in a gun store. A yappi couple picks up a gun for her. They are going from full size 1911 to Sig 232 and then back to Glock 22... Clerck politely suggests 642 Lady Smith and hands one over. She picks it up, points at the clerck, pulls the trigger a few times and says "It's cute!" Clerck - "Uh, M-a-a-m... We don't say 'cute' about guns, M-a-a-m...' I was cracking.

Mike

tinygnat219
September 15, 2008, 08:53 AM
How about those Railroad Security forces still being issued the Nagant?

Talk about where you stand in the order of things...

steak-knife
September 15, 2008, 07:37 PM
NYPD started switching over to 9mm pistols in 1993, and any member of the service that was qualified on a revolver was grandfathered in.

So, with that said, and based on an average 20 year career, NYPD carrying revolvers should be a thing of the past by 2013.

Perhaps in the near future, when law enforcement officers are transitioning over to "ray guns", a rookie officer will think: " Boy, how did those oldtimers deal with a tool that actually explodes in your hand to spit out a piece of lead?"

Rob96
September 15, 2008, 07:42 PM
Lehigh County Sheriff's Dept. in PA issues S&W 357 magnums still.

Speedo66
September 15, 2008, 08:05 PM
State agency I work for in NY transitioned to Glocks some years ago, but we were given the option to keep revolvers if we so desired. Once you trained on the Glocks though there was no going back. On or off duty, Glock only. All new recruits get Glock only.

At the time you couldn't give a revolver away, nobody wanted them. You were lucky to get $25 for them.

Quoheleth
September 17, 2008, 03:38 PM
Buddy of mine is a HPD officer. He said something similar to what the NYC policemen have said - if you are an older officer, grandfathered in, you can carry one. And, he said, that number is pretty thin among the ranks, especially the uniformed street cops. A few more detectives/plain clothes guys carry snubbies, but not many. But he added with a smile, some of them are just plain slick when it comes to range qual time. Not quite Jerry M. fast, but pretty slick...

I did jury duty last year and the bailiff that escorted us (a Harris Co. Sherriff's deputy) was armed with a very well worn stainless Ruger Security Six - grips were almost worn smooth. I can remember two speedloader pouches on his belt. If it were me doing bailiff duty, I think I would carry an extra speedstrip or two in the pants pocket based on some of the stories you hear...

Q

Checkman
September 22, 2008, 01:13 PM
:what:florida1098
Left mine in my locker when I retired and never went back for it. At the time local gun shops were only paying $25 for them. Was'nt even woth my time or gas to sell for that :what:

I want your locker after you leave.

freedom lover
September 22, 2008, 06:54 PM
Revolvers are pretty standard in corrections mostly because there not issued to individual officers just checked out daily.

Where my relative works they still use blued Model 10 Smiths with 4 inch barrels and rubber grips.

The problem is they only go to the range a few times a year. :what:
:what:

They aren't even required perform drills with the 870 :what:

The worst part is there are no longer height and weight limits for officers! You could have a riot starting in a cell block and the only officers around might all be pregnant women. Luckily, that hasn't happened, yet.

Zeede
September 22, 2008, 11:08 PM
My friend is LAPD, and carries a revolver as a backup.

Cameron

Spot77
September 22, 2008, 11:14 PM
Ocean City, MD - I think just the "seasonal" officers carry revolvers. I saw quite a few carrying revolvers this past summer.

ARTiger
September 23, 2008, 12:42 AM
I know a rural sheriff who wanted to issue revolvers, but the deal Glock was offering just made too much economic sense to ignore. He carries a 4" 686 though.

MrBill120
September 23, 2008, 10:44 AM
Steak-Knife, thats more like atleast 2018....the last class for off duty revolvers was the second 1997 class....38s will be around for a long time!!!

steak-knife: NYPD started switching over to 9mm pistols in 1993, and any member of the service that was qualified on a revolver was grandfathered in.

So, with that said, and based on an average 20 year career, NYPD carrying revolvers should be a thing of the past by 2013.

RX-178
September 23, 2008, 10:05 PM
All I can say is if they know how to use revolvers in general, I hope they're using revolvers on the job.

If they shoot better with the autos, stick with that. I just hope they start teaching their recruits how to shoot in GENERAL again. The new qualifying distances and the Pass or Fail scorecards are producing lousy shooters.

The only police officer I have personally met that could really run his weapon at the range was over 40 years old.

He used a 6" 686.

Gideon
September 23, 2008, 11:24 PM
My Brother-in-Law is a Chicago detective. His partner wears a 642, OWB, with a retention strap. I recently attended a relatives birthday party at their house and his partner was there open carrying. I asked it if was a bug but he said no, it was his primary. I asked my brother-in-law about it and he said it was because he was a detective and usually arrives at the scene of a crime after the fact. My brother-in-law chooses to carry a pistol.

God Bless
Gideon

Bigger is Better
September 24, 2008, 12:25 PM
I was acquainted with a private policeman who, during his job, he carried a 6" Colt Anaconda, loaded not with .44 Special, but with 240 grs .44 Magnum! :what: ... Maybe, thinking about, this is not so strange, 'cause this same person used a 4 3/4" .454 for home difence :D

Harley Quinn
September 24, 2008, 12:52 PM
When I retired from LEO we were allowed to purchase our "Revolver" (carried them back in that day and age) I paid $39.00 for a S&W 4" model 15-3...

I was issued a 6" Colt in the 60's and turned it in for the 4" in the 70's, they were denutted (fixed) and could only be shot double action...

I consider them not as safe as the new weapons on the block, the Glock works like a revolver, but has a much better trigger pull;) Or more dangerous one, depends on your own take.

I agree with the CHP in CA as far as safety and what officers should carry. CA seems to think the disconnect on the Magazine is very important no more new models are allowed into the state without it...

Hmmm wonder what Glock and others will do about that? It is interesting that the revolver has no such safety :confused:

:)

jjohnson
September 24, 2008, 05:16 PM
I've seen an awful lot of them south of the border. Seems like having the latest in firearms technology isn't a big priority. Not picking on anybody - in this country we tend to try to fix everything with technology as a first response. It wasn't that long ago Brazil sold back thousands of S&W M1917s.

Anyhow, US-made top quality revolvers have always been popular from Mexico to Tierra del Fuego. It used to be a "happy hunting ground" for collectors of old Colts and such until the laws tightened up some years ago.

EMC45
September 24, 2008, 07:38 PM
I was stationed in Gulfport MS for 5 years and I used to shoot at their pistol range weekly. I noticed that a lot of the officers carried wheelguns still. I asked my buddy (range officer for GPD) and he said that you are issued a Glock model 21 in 45 ACP. If you didn't like it or were uncomfortable with it you could opt for a personally owned weapon for duty. You had to qualify though. I saw a good bit of Rugers, Berettas and a bunch of wheel guns.

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