I passed up an Underwood M1 Carbine today at an auction.


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twofourthree73
September 13, 2008, 04:54 PM
It sold for $675. It was an Underwood M1 with 1 magazine, December 1942 manufacture date, but I can't be sure. It was in decent condition, the exterior of the barrel was a bit gray and rough, not well blued, The wood was in decent shape, but nothing special. I would have bought it for $300, but I wasn't sure what the value of these were so at $675 I had to pass.

Should I be kicking myself or was it smart to pass?

It looked very similar to this one here, only the metal and barrel on this one is in better shape.

http://necropimp.home.insightbb.com/universal_m1_carbine.jpg

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brooks
September 13, 2008, 05:35 PM
It always amazes me how fast the war mobilization took place. How in such a short period a secondary manufacturer Underwood Typewriters could get the machine tools and turn out finished rifles by Dec. 1942?

Any idea how many Underwoods were made?

twofourthree73
September 13, 2008, 05:40 PM
It always amazes me how fast the war mobilization took place. How in such a short period a secondary manufacturer Underwood Typewriters could get the machine tools and turn out finished rifles by Dec. 1942?

Any idea how many Underwoods were made?

I looked it up, approximately 200,000+

uneasy_rider
September 13, 2008, 05:42 PM
$675 is a bit high.

$300 is unrealistically low.

$500-600 is about what its worth these days.

AmishFury
September 13, 2008, 06:11 PM
first of all the one in the picture you posted... is a universal with a stock that was modified by the original owner (note the bit of wood glued to the bottom just forward of the magazine)

and the "gray and rough, not blued well" USGI M1 carbines were NEVER blued they were parkerized

here is a 1943 Quality Hardware carbine... the finish is very worn but the bayonet's blade shows what a fresh parkerized finish would look like
http://necropimp.home.insightbb.com/gunpics/1943_QualityHardware_M1Carbine_bp.jpg

Neo-Luddite
September 13, 2008, 06:28 PM
How in such a short period a secondary manufacturer Underwood Typewriters could get the machine tools and turn out finished rifles by Dec. 1942?

If you've ever used one of their typewriters---you'd see why instantly---the quality and durability of their manufacturing is outstanding.

Standing as testament is the fact that Underwood typewriters can be had in 100% functional condition 60+ years after they were made often for LESS than what they sold for new--NOT adjusted for inflation---the market has a permanent glut of the machines as they are just built like desktop sherman tanks.

I imagine their carbines are pretty solid, too.

Rosstradamus
September 13, 2008, 06:30 PM
You can buy M1 Carbines from the CMP right now.

Rack grade rifles run from $419 (Inland) to $495 (IBM). The only service grade rifles left are Inlands at $495. This doesn't count the rare ones up for auction.

twofourthree73
September 13, 2008, 06:58 PM
first of all the one in the picture you posted... is a universal with a stock that was modified by the original owner (note the bit of wood glued to the bottom just forward of the magazine)

and the "gray and rough, not blued well" USGI M1 carbines were NEVER blued they were parkerized

here is a 1943 Quality Hardware carbine... the finish is very worn but the bayonet's blade shows what a fresh parkerized finish would look like.

Thanks for the clarification. The pic I posted was not the gun I was looking at, but wanted to show what the basic gun looked like. It was what I could find that was the most representative with a quick google search. I don't know a whole lot about these obviously. The parkerization was starting to show some age, but I don't know if it could be restored with some buffing and oil.

My uncle had one of these and the barrel and finish was much nicer than the one I saw today. I figured $300 was a steal, when it got past $500 I had no idea and didn't bid.

Heck
September 13, 2008, 09:28 PM
I paid $900 for a winchester a few months back. about 85% condition. was manufactured I think in 42
The Rockola is the most rare of the wwII production

AmishFury
September 13, 2008, 10:38 PM
The pic I posted was not the gun I was looking at

i know... the gun in the pic you posted just happens to be 3ft from where i am sitting as i type this

FMJMIKE
September 13, 2008, 11:05 PM
Irwin-Pederson M1 Carbines are the rarest ones.

twofourthree73
September 14, 2008, 08:57 AM
i know... the gun in the pic you posted just happens to be 3ft from where i am sitting as i type this

Nice.

45B@cav
September 14, 2008, 10:42 PM
Nice to know some of us remember what a type writer is.

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