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j1979
September 14, 2008, 04:18 PM
I want to get a 1911 style pistol if my Glock sells. Is there anything out there comparable to a Dan Wesson for the money? So far those look the best to me for the money as far a a factory pistol goes. Im torn between the PM7 .45 or the PM9. Any other suggestions for a 1911 style pistol around $850 max? Thanks

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kcshooter
September 14, 2008, 04:20 PM
Colt, Smith & Wesson, Kimber, Springfield loaded, these can all be found for around that price range. I own at least one from each of these mfgr, and all of mine have been very reliable.

SureThing
September 14, 2008, 04:25 PM
PM manofsteele. He sells CZ's/DW's. He probably can get you a DW at that price.

ruger4d4
September 14, 2008, 04:26 PM
I second the S&W $700 new. You have alot of choices in that price range. Good luck. I think you will be glad you made the switch.

j1979
September 14, 2008, 04:28 PM
Yup Ive talked to him (manofsteele), he has a PM9 I would like. CZ custom shop also has very very good prices on DW's.

SureThing
September 14, 2008, 04:28 PM
Where are the $700 Smiths?

WNC Seabee
September 14, 2008, 04:30 PM
Just ordered a Springfield Loaded today. I got the "Black Stainless Target" (http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=18) for $950. I was torn between that and this one (http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=109595560) at $850. I went with the more expensive one because of the included tritium sights.

kcshooter
September 14, 2008, 04:33 PM
For a S&W I don't know about $700, certainly not new that I've ever seen. But they will stay under the $850 price point.

ruger4d4
September 14, 2008, 04:40 PM
sorry I was 25 dollars off.......http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=109861798

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=110262748
:)

j1979
September 14, 2008, 04:42 PM
Are they all about the same quality as far as fit and finish and reliability in my price range? This is my first 1911 and want to get the best one I can afford. For some reason Im stuck on the Dan Wesson, but I have no reason to be.

SureThing
September 14, 2008, 04:50 PM
IMO....the DW's are THE best $1000ish 1911. The Smiths are the best $700 ish price.

j1979
September 14, 2008, 04:52 PM
The Colts look pretty nice too. I think Ive got alot of reading to do.

ruger4d4
September 14, 2008, 05:00 PM
I agree with SureThing 100%. It all boils down to we are giving you opinions based on our experience. My advice for whatever it is worth is you should research as much as possible about them. Then go handle and shoot as many as possible. Are you going to conceal carry it? Is it gonna be just a range gun? That will determine what kind of sights and what kind of model you want.

j1979
September 14, 2008, 05:09 PM
It will be a range gun only, or possible home defense.

j1979
September 14, 2008, 05:24 PM
So far from what Ive read the Colt XSE or the 70 series Government Stainless might be the one. What are the noticeable differences between these two?

kcshooter
September 14, 2008, 05:55 PM
The smiths have come down a little in price, I still haven't seen one in a store for under $800.
I think my S&W is one of my finest 1911's, regardless of the external extractor (which works flawlessly).
A Colt is a Colt, though, and that holds some serious weight with me.
Springfields customer service is second to none, and their warranty is well-backed.
Kimber makes a great gun. Tight and accurate.
Dan Wessons are one of the highest quality production guns out there, worth well over their price.

I doubt you can really go wrong, don't fret too much, look and handle several and buy the one that pleases your eye and hand the most.

j1979
September 14, 2008, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the help. Now I just need this darn glock to sell.

2nd 41
September 14, 2008, 06:42 PM
Just ordered a Springfield Loaded today. I got the "Black Stainless Target" for $950. I was torn between that and this one at $850. I went with the more expensive one because of the included tritium sights.

I bought this model several months ago. I sent it back to SA for an Action Job($80). If I let someone next to me shoot it....I can't get it back. Can't get them to stop smiling either.
S&W 282 or 284 is an excellent choice

ruger4d4
September 14, 2008, 07:18 PM
I am not a big fan of the 70 series colts. With the fixed sights. For home defense you will probably want night sights and maybe even a rail on the frame to add goodies. Target you would probably be better served with a steel frame and adjustable target sights

WNC Seabee
September 14, 2008, 07:34 PM
Pardon my ignorance...but what did you get in an "Action Job"? Is this just another way to say trigger job?

MICHAEL T
September 14, 2008, 11:48 PM
I have a safe full of Colts . I carry a Dan Wesson bobtail most of time. Can't be beat for the money. Their are less than 3000 1911's DW made a year total. Thats for world wide shipment . It is a well made, almost custom, you can afford 1911.

CWL
September 15, 2008, 12:12 AM
At this moment in time, Dan Wesson makes and sells the best quality/value M1911 available. The build, parts and finish is equal or better than any M1911 pistol up to twice its cost.

Get a DW, then as time and budget allows, you can get other M1911s to compare it to.

robctwo
September 15, 2008, 01:29 AM
If you can corner one of the Dan Wesson 9mms that just came out grab it! They only released about 30 of them. I just got a 9mm Les Baer PII. Great gun, but about $1,900.

You will love shooting a 9mm 1911. If you need to move up to .45 there are lots of them available, DW and all the other makes, but not so much choice or availabilty of the 9mm right now.

I would have bought one as well as the Baer, but my 25 yr old daughter just got out of graduate school AND had a VERY NICE wedding. No regrets there, just no extra gun dollars for a while.

Black Majik
September 15, 2008, 01:35 AM
At the $1K price point, I gotta echo others that the Dan Wessons are the best of the bunch.

j1979
September 15, 2008, 08:39 PM
Yea those DW PM9's would be very nice. Cant decide between the 9 or .45 though. Probably go with the 9mm first and then the .45, especially with the price of ammo. Anybody want to take a Glock 22 off my hands so I can get a 1911?

Tamlin
September 15, 2008, 10:59 PM
I recently picked up a slightly-used DW PM7 for $725. It's my first 1911 - I traded my Ruger P90 in on it, and am very glad I did. After looking around, I, too, was stuck on Dan Wessons. I am extremely happy with it, and in no way regret passing up the similarly-priced Smiths, Colts, etc. Now I'm thinking about saving for a DW CBOB.

Sapper771
September 15, 2008, 11:06 PM
I just bought a Springfield Armory 1911 operator with the half rail. I love it. I was in the market for anothe 1911 and I was not about to go with Kimber again after the last dog and pony show i went through with them. So far , the pistol has performed flawlessly( 200 rounds of reloads, both lead and copper). I dont recommend using the lead wadcutters though, the odd shaped nose of the bullet likes to hang up in the chamber upon initially charging the weapon. I also have owned a DW PM2 1911, and it was an excellent pistol. Good Luck!

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