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scndactive
September 15, 2008, 12:15 PM
Hotels, and gun friendliness

I was one of the millions that evacuated from the Texas coast, in a hurry I might add.

So i pack up all the guns and ammo along with some other valuables, the wife, the mother-in-law:barf:and 4 kids, and head to the hotel in San Antonio.

Everything is fine until I notice that access to all the rooms it through the lobby (not what i expected) this means everything I take up to my room gets eyeballed by the bitty at the front desk, so I put a few guns in the case I use for my compound bow and had to make a few trips. I got a few looks as to why I am carrying this bow case back and forth between my truck and the room.

Should I have had to do this? If they saw them, who knows what would have happened, anything from police confiscation, to "Its against our policy" maybe nothing, but I dont have the money for legal council if I had gotten in trouble. Is it "brandishing" if I openly carry a gun from my truck into a hotel lobby and up to my room?

I didnt have much time to research or prep for this. and just because its illegale for them to take them dosent mean they wont.

What would ya'll have done differently?

Or am i paranoid?

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hnk45acp
September 15, 2008, 12:20 PM
you were smart and discrete, that's always the best solution, better safe than sorry

Loucks
September 15, 2008, 12:21 PM
You're not paranoid.

It's best not to advertise that you have weapons. At the very least someone could decide to help themselves to a weapon. At worst you could get a visit from a SWAT team (unlikely).

It's most expedient simply to keep a low profile.

ambidextrous1
September 15, 2008, 12:22 PM
Don't ask - don't tell.

Concealment is cool.

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
September 15, 2008, 12:27 PM
It's always best not to let anyone know what you have. Your not breaking any laws so keeping them under raps is best for everyone.

bogie
September 15, 2008, 12:28 PM
The Doubletree here is posted. I'd like to encourage anyone out there to avoid the chain, if possible.

Oh, and by the way, let them know why...

NavyLCDR
September 15, 2008, 02:06 PM
I've made the trip between Oak Harbor, Washington and Cheyenne, Wyoming a couple of times, open carrying. I've never had a problem with the standard cheap travellers motels when checking in with my holstered sidearm. Now, if I was moving all my guns into the room with me, then, yes, I would discreetly as possible case them.

bnkrazy
September 15, 2008, 02:11 PM
I have an interesting story related to hotels and guns...

We were staying in a resort in VA beach a few years ago and each room has a safe in the closet for valuables, etc.

We wanted to go down to the pool for a bit so I stuck my carry piece in the safe after testing it to be sure it worked correctly.

Before we left, my wife wanted to put something else in the safe and as she went to open it, it made a funny noise and had some strange code on the info panel. The thing was hosed. It wouldn't open for anything.

So, we called the maintenance dept and waited while they popped it with the special key. Apparently the battery died in the electronic lock. Their security policy required the resort manager, maint guy, and one of the front desk girls present while the safe was operated on. The emergency key is not accessible to maintenance, thus the special procedure and and short wait for mgmt to get there with the key.

I didn't mention ahead of time what was in there...I kinda wanted to see their reaction. While they opened the safe and replaced the batteries, my pistol was in partial view, but still easily identifiable.

Now, only the maintenance guy was really down at face level with the safe, but I could easily see the pistol while standing back out of the way for him to work.

To his and the mgmt's credit, they never once said anything about my firearm being in the safe, nor did I notice any change in their attitude or level of service. They all remained very professional the whole time.

DF357
September 15, 2008, 02:19 PM
What did you do with them when you got them to your room? What about the maids ?

TexasRifleman
September 15, 2008, 02:23 PM
Is it "brandishing" if I openly carry a gun from my truck into a hotel lobby and up to my room?

Technically it would not be brandishing if it's a long arm. Texas has no real laws concerning long arms.
Hotel rooms are considered your residence so you're OK having them in there.

That said, it's gonna attract attention for sure and you may have to try to defend your actions.

Attention from someone that might steal them would be my main concern, more than from law enforcement.

scrat
September 15, 2008, 02:44 PM
Don't ask - don't tell.

Concealment is cool.


Agree

threehorse
September 15, 2008, 02:45 PM
the mother-in-law:barf:

Sorry to be off-topic, but that was very funny!

XDKingslayer
September 15, 2008, 02:48 PM
You're being paranoid. It's Texas. They're used to people bringing guns into hotels. Hunting IS a tourist attraction in Texas.

ArmedBear
September 15, 2008, 03:13 PM
I have a HUGE Outdoor Products duffle bag. Good for moving just about anything. Stuff it with clothes, etc., and it becomes a shapeless, innocuous blob, even with a few shotguns in it.:)

Doesn't matter to me if they're gun-friendly. Guns are valuables, and I'd just as soon not advertise to anyone that my room is a bonanza for burglars if we go out to dinner.

MinnMooney
September 15, 2008, 03:17 PM
You're not paranoid.

It's best not to advertise that you have weapons. At the very least someone could decide to help themselves to a weapon.

Ditto.

Since you will be spending a few days in a relatively unsecured area, it's best that opportunists don't know that you have valuables in your room.

guntotinguy
September 15, 2008, 03:21 PM
Maybe use an empty 'golf club bag' or the kind thats on rollers to conceal...when your in uncertainty,be sure you did the right thing especially with what was 'going on'...

scndactive
September 15, 2008, 03:24 PM
What did you do with them when you got them to your room? What about the maids ?

I just put them in the closet(cleared of course) and my wife and I made sure one of us was in the room at all times, we also declined maid service

the mother-in-law:barf:

Sorry to be off-topic, but that was very funny!

Ya, I thought so to, however the missus was less than amused.

larry_minn
September 15, 2008, 03:27 PM
If you have a 2nd person go thru side doors. Most hotels I have been in have side doors you can exit (anytime) but you have to come in thru lobby after 10pm. So you move car/truck to that door and have son/daughter/wife/MIL wait at door to open it when you get there with load of guns. (also often closer to your room) Either that or they have card reader by side doors. (using room key card)

Old Grump
September 15, 2008, 03:42 PM
In my case its not the management I was concerned with, did a lot of traveling with military shooting teams but when I had to travel alone and didn't have a barracks to go to or a gun room to check them into I had to go into a hotel with my gun box and everybody in that lobby knew I was carrying a mess of pistols and that made me nervous. After that I carried them in my suitcase and my gun case was wrapped up like a FedEx package. Back before everybody got all paranoid about guns my pistol case was sent to Washington DC and I was at Fort Benning waiting for the next relay which was mine and I still didn't have any guns. Taxicab showed up with them just as it was time to go up for my relay, talk about the nick of time. After that I carried my case onto the plane and let the pilot stow it in the cockpit and the stewardess would hand it to me as I deplaned. I miss those days. At least with the rifle matches I was always able to camp out at the range and the long guns slept with me. Especially after the bear ransacked my camp and my dog who was laying next to me in the tent never made a sound. So much for security.

Armed 24/7
September 15, 2008, 03:49 PM
My Dad and I went to hunt pheasants in South Dakotaa few years ago, and the hotel clerk was rendered almost speachless when we brought our hard cased shotguns into the lobby to check in. Unknown to us, she called the security guard when she went into the back room. Fortunately he was a moonlighting cop and knew that we had done nothing wrong, and were just hunters. After that incident, I now take them in a side door after check in.

skyflyer
September 15, 2008, 08:31 PM
when we stay at hotels and bring long guns i bring a kids type blanket to deflect notice.

something like a pooh blanket or power rangers, nobody gives you a second look.

SCKimberFan
September 15, 2008, 08:36 PM
I have never seen a No Gun sign on a hotel door and I stay in hotels 120+ nights a year, including Doubletrees.

If I am paying rent, it is my residence for the night and it will be in the room with me.

Thernlund
September 15, 2008, 08:42 PM
ambidextrous1 in post #4 took the words right out of my mouth.


-T.

Queltor
September 15, 2008, 08:51 PM
I once stayed in a hotel that was full of FBI agents. Most of them were terrible about keeping their weapons concealed and anyone who paid attention would see them printing or peeking out from under short sweaters (for the women).

The hotel was NOT happy. Many customers complained/commented to the front desk about all the armed people running around. Some were wondering if they were safe staying there, others just had the wiggens because they came from anti-gun states. One of the maids also freaked out when she went into a room and "found" an agent's Glock 22 sitting on the desk.

jkingrph
September 15, 2008, 09:58 PM
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I have never seen a No Gun sign on a hotel door and I stay in hotels 120+ nights a year, including Doubletrees.

If I am paying rent, it is my residence for the night and it will be in the room with me.
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I stayed in the Austin, Tx Doubletree a number of years back. It most definately had a sign prohibiting firearms in the hotel. My briefcase was with me each time I entered or exited.

Sommerled
September 16, 2008, 12:58 AM
The Super 8 hotel in Eagle Butte, South Dakota has a sign in each room that says:

"If you need additional rags for cleaning your guns more are available for FREE at the front desk."

The sign is under small shelf on the wall that always has two nicely folded clean rags on it.

I kid you not.

Sommerled

Catherine
September 16, 2008, 01:51 AM
I traveled with my handguns and rifles moving across country. I did not leave any firearm in my vehicle or in my Coleman pop up CLOSED camper when I stopped/slept in a motel at night. I TOOK THEM ALL IN WITH ME. I took in ammunition for 2 self defense guns and left the OTHER ammo in my Coleman all packed up and sealed/locked tight. I left the Coleman hooked/locked up to my Explorer too. I had about 10 or so guns with me... I would have to count now because I sold a few, back east, and gave 2 to very close friends.

I travel, camp and stay in motels/hotels and have never had a problem taking in my guns. I would not want to leave my guns in a vehicle even if I had them covered up or had a real trunk - like I did with some of my other cars. Same deal with my pick up trucks.

I just came back from a short trip - I and/or WE always take a few (Grin.) guns with us including a 45-70 for bear country.

Catherine

Big Boomer
September 16, 2008, 02:02 AM
I always carry my sidearm with me where ever I go. I travel for work about 50% of the time.

NEVER EVER EVER let them see your gun. Even if it is "legal" most will freak out and say it is a possible hazard to the other customers. (I almost have to agree) a close friend of ours was almost shot in her hotel room because a brinks security guard was cleaning his revolver and it fired (probably doing quick draws in the mirror). It fired, went through the wall and hit the other wall, luckily she was in the bathroom when it happened.

The brinks guy lost his job, and she got...a free night! (sarcasm off)

I trust myself, none other. I keep my muzzle always pointed at the exterior wall when it lays on the nightstand or the desk. I do NOT unload, load, play with, clean, or anything else with my gun while I am in the hotel room. It stays cocked and locked in its holster.

ColinthePilot
September 16, 2008, 02:54 AM
The last two times I moved, I loaded my long guns first, under all the crap in the back of my truck cab, and only brought my carry piece to the room. If some burglar has x-ray vision to find them and is willing (and can actually pull off) working on my truck for 20 min to get a couple rifles out of it, he can have them. They were totally concealed, under a few feet of clothes and assorted junk, and were of course the first things I unloaded when I finally moved in. Each time it took me about 15 min to wrestle them out without having to unpack the whole cab.

Oana
September 16, 2008, 03:07 AM
If some burglar has x-ray vision to find them and is willing (and can actually pull off) working on my truck for 20 min to get a couple rifles out of it, he can have them.

Or, he could just take the whole truck. :D

To the OP - next time, bring a big duffle bag. Otherwise, you did fine. Better a few weird looks than marching in with the rifles over your shoulder!

bogie
September 16, 2008, 03:29 AM
Campers, I just back the truck up to the closest door to the room, tell the clerk that I've got a few thousand dollars worth of competition firearms in the thing, give them grief about giving me a second floor room, and commence to schlep.

Have NEVER had Johnny Law show up.

If I'm travelling on my own, I don't tell them about the "room guns."

If the hotel has a sign that says that it doesn't want my business, I drive next door, or I go to the next exit. Ain't that hard.

In fact, I've been tired, pulled up, said "I gotta buncha guns in the truck - do you have a first floor room?" and not even gotten a blink... And I've had folks call around for me.

The world ain't against us.

Catherine
September 16, 2008, 04:46 AM
Military duffel (Duffle? I have seen 2 spellings for this word.) bags, big suitcases and Rubbermaid tubs with your handguns in them inside soft pistol cases make it easy to carry in too. Most hotels/motels have those luggage carts with wheels on it too. You can put almost everything on it, I could in my case because I did not have tons of guns with me when I moved out west, including your own clothing suitcase, ditty bag, 1 briefcase, 2 rifles and my purse slung around my neck/shoulder.

I had some old USN sea bags, a Air NG/AF type flight bag, those duffel bags, etc. Those really came in handy when packing! Another handy thing that I have used is the suitcase with the wheels on the bottom of it... it makes it much easier to travel. You can CARRY it or WHEEL it. The handle snaps down or UP depending on how you want to use it and/or pack it.

The first thing that I do when I get into a hotel room is put a DO NOT DISTURB sign on the outside of the door. If I stay for more than one night... the sign stays up, the same sheets stay on the bed and I ask for fresh towels without having 'maid service'. If I have a light meal or tea/coffee in the room... I put the trash in their can and/or use my own plastic bag if their bag is not big enough. I dump my own trash or give it to the maid.

I don't like people in my hotel/motel room anyway.

Catherine

Kind of Blued
September 16, 2008, 06:47 AM
You did things just right, although it pisses me off that people would get in an uproar about some guy carrying a couple hunting rifles by the stock, muzzle up, into a hotel.

Common sense to me would be:
"Well there's a freakin' hurricane abound, so no suprise this fellow left with his valuables. I'm glad he's bringing them in instead of leaving them outside and vulnerable where a criminal could steal them."

scndactive
September 16, 2008, 09:20 AM
Common sense to me would be:
"Well there's a freakin' hurricane abound, so no suprise this fellow left with his valuables. I'm glad he's bringing them in instead of leaving them outside and vulnerable where a criminal could steal them."

I fully agree as most of us here would.

OTOH common sense for an anti is, if you have guns, you are a criminal

So better safe than sorry.

But it pisses me of too.

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