My new to me Uberti Millenium '58


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Voodoochile
September 15, 2008, 09:54 PM
Well I finally bought a Millenium edition Uberti '58 NMA, My second Uberti in 18 years "my 3rd model Dragoon" & when it got home I just like a kid in a toy store. :D

First impressions:
Fit & finish is pretty good & the Parkerizing is actually relatively smooth compared to some Park jobs I've seen, the grips ofcorse the normal Uberti red but a very nice fit & smooth finish, & the only detractor being that one of the previous owners drilled & tapped the frame for a scope mount & they also filed the front sight some probably to sight it in of to get it out of the scops picture "minor & tolorable."
The cylinder locks up good but still has a slight left & right wabble to it & it is about .0060 shorter than the opening front to back but I can attest that the frame has not been modified for a Pieta cylinder because none of mine will fit.
The hammer pull was a work out with a 7Lb pull & a little gritty because of hammer to frame contact it seems, but freakishly the trigger pull was very light 2.5Lb!!!
No rust!
I was impressed that there is no rust & relatively clean, & checking cylinder alignment looked promising so I cleaned her up & smoothed up the action including working the sear slightly to give me a little more trigger pull "I like em 3.5 - 4Lbs" & got her ready for my first range outing with it.

All I have to say is WOW.
This pistol likes my 220gr. cast Lee conicals & 30gr. of Pyrodex P keeping a 5 shot average of 3 inches with the 6th shot being a flier opening the group up to 5 inches at 25-30 yards, shoot even the POI & POA was real close just slightly right & even though I did not have my Chrono with me I'm sure it is pushing a good ammount of speed being that it blew those 220gr. bullets clean through my 20dX20wX24t box packed with Cardboard & Magazines at 25 yards!
I'll need to check which chamber is the flier & see if it can be brought into the rest of the gang of just keep it in time out. :evil:
Impressively though I was able to run through 5 full cylinder loads without even a single slow down or wipe off but I'm sure that the cylinder end play had something to do with it "maybe it's a positive thing & I shouldn't bother with that."

Now I intended this to be a gift for my hunt club president because he likes both of my Pietta '58's but I'm having second thoughts on this & may have to keep this one & either give him my 8" Pietta or find another '58 to do this again but I know for sure that this piece even with it's minor little issues, it's beautiful, it shoots really good & it's now a smooth machine that seems to like a heavy bullet.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/7323983/aview/2_Remingtons.jpg
Sorry for the size but I also wanted to get my 5-1/2" barreled Pietta in there too.

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scrat
September 15, 2008, 10:01 PM
very nice smooth looking too

jojosdad
September 16, 2008, 04:36 AM
Glad to see that she got a good home.

Voodoochile
September 16, 2008, 05:10 AM
Glad to see that she got a good home.

Yup & Thank you again, she is definitly a fine addition to my collection.

Omnivore
September 16, 2008, 05:11 PM
Sounds like I might need to try some of those conicals in my '58.

I wouldn't think a six thou cylinder gap excessive at all.

None of these guns were Parkerized. They're blued and some parts are color case hardened. I don't think Parkerizing came along until the 20th century.

Nice groups you're getting there. Thanks for the report.

arcticap
September 16, 2008, 05:42 PM
Gee, I thought that the Millenium finish was paint, but it's described as being a normal type of chemical bluing over an unpolished steel finish to save on labor costs.
While someone in this thread did describe it as looking like black paint, it certainly isn't described as being parkerizing either. :)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=184164&highlight=millenium

sundance44s
September 16, 2008, 05:51 PM
I`m not supprised your Uberti likes the conicals so well ...both my Uberti`s out shoot my Pietta Remingtons useing conversion cylinders and 45 `s ..Good lookin Piece ..I always wondered about that finish ..never have gotten to fondle one .

Voodoochile
September 16, 2008, 06:43 PM
I'm not sure that it really is a Parkerizing job but it reminds me of the grey Park job on my 1942 built Colt M1911A1 cept that this is a nice dark black color, to me it isn't a bad look for the piece & seems to be quite resilient.

As far as the cylinder play, My Pietta's both have a barrel to cylinder gap of .007 - .009 but the frame area that supports the pin in the front is around .002 - .0025 to where there is practically no front to back movement in the cylinders but this one has a much more noticeable amount of movement but since it shoots this well I'm not complaining, especially since I was able to get 30 shots through it without any wiping or anything with either of my Pietta's I'm lucky to achieve 24 shots before they get too fouled up to turn on their own with using a single cylinder.

My main wish is that the holes were not drilled into the frame but I'm going to work on that soon & they'll be just a slight blemish on the top when I get done. :D

Oh & about the conicals, they are sweet at measuring .456 at the first band, .450 at the second & the base measures .448 so slipping into the chambers are a breeze specially when my 5-1/2" barreled Pietta has .451 chambers & this has .450 chambers, had to modify the loading opening of my Pietta to allow me to rotate the cylinder into loading position but the Uberti had it just right "Pietta has the frame a tad thick in that area but not bad to fix."

As far as it shooting .45 Colts better may be the bore too.
Pietta 5-1/2" barrel
.4400 Lands
.4495 Groves
Uberti Milenium
.4405 Lands
.4535 Groves

mainmech48
September 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
As was said, it isn't Parkerizing nor any sort of 'paint'. It's conventional hot-dip 'bluing' applied to a bead blasted surface.

The idea was to give an even, consistent finish while eliminating the costs associated with polishing, allowing them to sell a product of essentially equal build quality for a substantially lower price.

Might not be as "purty" or as "authentic", but every bit as sweet shooting as the traditionally finished item, IMO.

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