Ridiculous gun prices at Charlotte gun store


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iheartboost
September 15, 2008, 10:40 PM
I was in Charlotte las tweek for my work and decided to stop in a gunstore that I saw mentioned on this forum. However it was basiclly a waste of time as everything was outragously overpriced. Most of the pistols and shotguns where overpriced by $100-$200 while the ARs, AKs, FALs, etc were overpriced by at least $400. Now I don't mind haggling over the price of a gun a little, but I couldn't imagine my self going up to a salesmen and saying "I'll give you $800 for that Galil with the $1199 price tag on it". Am I off base here?

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snorky18
September 15, 2008, 10:48 PM
would that store happen to be on Wilkinson Blvd?

atblis
September 15, 2008, 11:12 PM
"I'll give you $800 for that Galil with the $1199 price tag on it". Am I off base here?
Was it a real Galil, or one of the newer ones?

pinstripe
September 15, 2008, 11:18 PM
Must be the trickle down effect of high oil prices:rolleyes:. It seems as if everyone is getting into the act of greed and deception. I was at a gun show where I seen a mosin nagant with century import markings going for $400. WHAT A BARGAIN!!!! Just keep looking and you will eventually find what you are looking for at the price that you want to pay. I feel your pain.:banghead:

NetJunkie
September 15, 2008, 11:33 PM
Probably talking about Hyatts. Go talk to Roger back in tactical. Great guy. They can move on price.

iheartboost
September 16, 2008, 08:06 AM
Yep, its Hyatts. The Galil looked like it was a Century, pretty sure most of the tactical stuff were Century builds except the ARs of course. Even the no frills ARs were in the $1000-$1200 range though.Probably talking about Hyatts. Go talk to Roger back in tactical. Great guy. They can move on price. How much of a move are we talking about here? Don't get me wrong, the sales people seemed helpful and knowledgable but are they willing to move within $100-$150 of what these guns are selling for on the internet?

BattleChimp Potemkin
September 16, 2008, 08:48 AM
Reminds me of Don's guns here in Indy. A guy came out to my range, claiming he got a good deal at Don's. Apparently a $1000 Glock with a fobus holster and 1 (yes 1!) mag is a good deal. He got pissed when we all spelled out to him he got taken BIG TIME, and left to go give Ol' Don hell.

Don also sells $250 Hi Points, and $700-800 dollar CAI AKs. Ammo? How does 45 dollars for a box (yes, 1 box!) of .45 Auto Amerc hit you?

He own's a DANGEROUS indoor range that has had stuff slip out before, not to mention bouncing back.

Sad thing, his store is in the middle of the Ghetto, so EVERYONE shops there. The clientele consists at all times of:
1 Old man, who has a cheap gun and a membership to "Don's Shooting club". Dotn say anything bad about Don or the pricing, or incur the ancient wrath of this old timer.
3 Thugs, staring at an AK, settling for a snub for their big move tonight against a liqour store.
2 rich white kids (younger) that have no idea about guns, other than what they watch on the tele, drolling over the gold plated , 2000 dollar Desert Eagle in the case, settling for an overpriced 800 dollar Beretta or 1000 dollar Glock, saddened they didnt bring enough of Daddy's money to buy something that they saw on Futureweapons.

Sickening!

XD45
September 16, 2008, 08:53 AM
.....Reminds me of Don's guns here in Indy....
You beat me to it! I can't even describe how big a crook that guy is. "Don't want to make money, I just love to sell guns..." My ass. He does seem to keep the 'pimp guns' in stock though (Desert Eagles, gold plated anything, etc...)

Emfuser
September 16, 2008, 10:00 AM
Ew... Don's Guns. Indy is my home town and DG's is :barf:.

Tortuga12
September 16, 2008, 10:22 AM
I'm not here to make money folks, I just love CREEPING THE HELL OUT OF YOU!!!:eek:

Seriously, that is one smarmy dude!

rswartsell
September 16, 2008, 10:27 AM
I was thinking this was a Chicagoland (and other urban, less than gun friendly locations) thing. G.A.T. Guns and Maxson Shooter Supply equally overpriced. Possibly taking advantage of pending election fears too? Midway wanting a buck a piece for a lot of 500 Gold Dots .38 spl short barrel?

Gun inflation is here. Shop harder I guess.

NetJunkie
September 16, 2008, 10:37 AM
How much of a move are we talking about here? Don't get me wrong, the sales people seemed helpful and knowledgable but are they willing to move within $100-$150 of what these guns are selling for on the internet?

Depends. There is a reason I deal with Roger. Know the going price on what you want. If you don't see it on display ask him. It's amazing how much he has in the back that he doesn't have room to display.

308win
September 16, 2008, 10:43 AM
If prices are up because more people are joining the ranks that isn't a bad thing; the market will equalize eventually. If the prices are up because of gouging don't shop there.

bogie
September 16, 2008, 11:54 AM
Just a suggestion, campers...

If you think something is overpriced, unless the salesman is holding a gun on you, don't buy it. The market will correct.

22-rimfire
September 16, 2008, 12:15 PM
Maybe the store(s) is looking at investment potential... their investment, not your's. :)

Hollywood Marine
September 16, 2008, 12:28 PM
I bought a Super X 1 XTR from Hyatt on the net. I paid $700, which may sound a bit high, but the guncame in the original factory box with hang tag and all papers, and was pristine. looked like maybe 100 rds had been through it. I was satisfied with the gun and with the service I received from Hayatt Gun Shop, Nuff said,

Ben86
September 16, 2008, 12:57 PM
I've actually been told at a gun show that there is a "gun shortage." Oh please, I told the guy that is bull---- and walked off. Some salesmen need economics 101.

bp_cowboy
September 16, 2008, 01:36 PM
It is not just Gun Shops but also Gun Shows. They have become a haven for the Wannabe Sniper or Commado.

When it comes time to purchase a firearem, I just watch HR or GT.

SCKimberFan
September 16, 2008, 04:08 PM
If you get a chance, try Firepower in Matthews next time. Not quite the selection of EBRs, but pretty good on handguns & prices are better. Kinda hard to find, but I have never had a problem with them when I lived in Charlotte.

ZeSpectre
September 16, 2008, 04:19 PM
My local shops are up, Up, UP in price.
$275 for a CZ-82
$425 for a used (and rough) Yugo SKS
$721 for a SIG 229 (plain vanilla)

Whew I'm glad I already own most of the guns I want to get!
(Though that Ed Brown Kobra just keeps calling to me)

brassdog
September 16, 2008, 04:36 PM
Next time you're in Charloote...:)
Try Carolina Sporting Arms. They're just outside of the downtown area off of Tryon. Or at least I think so, it's been over ten years since I've been there last. Hyatt's always had the rep of being overpriced and overfull of BS.

Chris Plitt
September 16, 2008, 04:42 PM
@...Everyone?

Thats why I don't do markup. I order everything for anyone at cost and tack on a $20 transfer fee. I don't pay taxes to the state, make $20 guaranteed on each sale, no haggling and any customer gets THE BEST DEAL. Thats just how I run...

Beau93
September 16, 2008, 04:50 PM
Carolina Sporting Arms has moved much further from downtown Charlotte--they are now almost at I-485 on South Boulevard. I just bought a Beretta O/U from them--they were all of $10 less than Hyatt (and then only if I wrote a check instead of using a credit card). (Both prices were reasonable, I thought, having checked several on-line sources first.) CSA did have a better selection, though, and the person I dealt with there was much more knowledgeable about shotguns.

brassdog
September 16, 2008, 05:04 PM
Do they still hang that blown apart revolver on the wall? I think it was a Ruger. I remember when they still selling the Highway Patrol old Ithaca 37's by the barrelful.

Beau93
September 16, 2008, 06:07 PM
I didn't see a blown-apart revolver--but then, I made a beeline for the shotguns. It does have a much higher-end feel than the old store did--more like a golf pro shop at a nice club now.

Hk91-762mm
September 16, 2008, 08:40 PM
would that store happen to be on Wilkinson Blvd?

MY thoughts exactly-I lived up the road near the airport and went to Hyatts ONCE. There Prices Made me quake in my boots.
Now the gunshow On sunset blvd was Pretty good at the fair grnds

tinygnat219
September 16, 2008, 09:02 PM
Interesting.

All I can say is that it's disturbing when the rest of the country is catching up to Northern VA gun prices.

This is why I state that the C&R license is worth its wait in gold. Not only do you save a boatload of FFL fees on C&R guns, you get treated as a dealer by the wholesalers online (SOG, Classicarms, AIMsurplus, etc.) and you can see what dealers pay for their guns (for the most part).

Defensory
September 19, 2008, 12:49 PM
Posted by brassdog:
Next time you're in Charloote...Try Carolina Sporting Arms. They're just outside of the downtown area off of Tryon. Or at least I think so, it's been over ten years since I've been there last. Hyatt's always had the rep of being overpriced and overfull of BS.

Things change in over ten years.

A few months ago I went to both Hyatt and Carolina Sporting Arms (CSA), and requested a quote on a three gun "package deal". I told them I wasn't interested in haggling, and just wanted their "rock bottom" price.

Hyatt's price was one hundred dollars LESS than CSA.

Hyatt has over five thousand firearms in stock, and sells FAR more guns than CSA. Hyatt also has a tactical shop and better customer service.

Don't be fooled by the high sticker prices, which are only MSRP's. Hyatt will come down a good bit from the sticker price.

By the way, Carolina Sporting Arms is located on South Boulevard. If you drive down Tryon looking for them, you'll be driving for a LONG time. :D

J Lambs
September 19, 2008, 03:14 PM
I have always heard that Hyatt's was way overpriced as well, but I called to check the price on a Kimber Stainless UC in 9mm and they were as cheap as I could find on the net, even before shipping. The bad part about Hyatt's, to me, is the area of town and a good percentage of the clientel. I feel like I need to were kevlar on my way back to my car.

brassdog
September 19, 2008, 03:38 PM
Yeah, it has been too long but I was glad to leave Charlotte. I not surprised that things change just offering my 2 cents.:)

Iheartboost,

Now, I noticed that you're from Greenville. Have you ever tried Doc's? What's it like? I keep wanting to stop by sometime I making a run towards Washington. Is it worth the effort or should just keep rolling along?

CannonFodder
September 19, 2008, 04:06 PM
Colissimo's in Philly - home of the $400 dollar Hi-Point, along with a zillion other guns that were way, way overpriced. Also, the store is rather dingy.

SCKimberFan
September 19, 2008, 04:18 PM
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Claude Clay
September 19, 2008, 06:51 PM
since it has happened that big oil can raise the prices today because of increases that are NOT EVEN on the boat yet--
and as there is soooo much in the news about the terrible raising costs of goods--
and since there are soooo many new shooters that have more $ than brains--
and since internet ASKING prices are soooo high--
local dealers seemingly have raised their prices to levels unrealistic to those who are knowledgeable.

i still look around on the weekends. if i find an item of interest and 'the boss' isnt easily available, i will ask for it to be put aside and return when the store is calmer. negotiating a realistic price ( often way below marked) has only once not happened.

D Boone
September 19, 2008, 09:00 PM
I've been to Hyatt's and a lot of other shops in NC, and they are all overpriced. Even the shop just down the road, where I am kin, I have to haggle. Am I the only one who hates this? Just ask what you want for the thing and I buy it or I don't? I hate buying cars for that reason.

BeltfedMG
September 19, 2008, 09:13 PM
Its not just where your at, its like that everywhere down here also. the best deals seem to come from individuals.

SCKimberFan
September 19, 2008, 09:21 PM
It seems as though all the gun shops in and around Charlotte are higher priced than elsewhere in the SE. I travel from KY to FL and they seem to be pricier here than most other places, although lately it appears like everyone's prices are climbing.

Seven©
September 19, 2008, 09:27 PM
Yep, its Hyatts.

When I saw the thread title I knew it was Hyatts. And I've only been there once.

iheartboost
September 19, 2008, 09:29 PM
Now, I noticed that you're from Greenville. Have you ever tried Doc's? What's it like? I keep wanting to stop by sometime I making a run towards Washington. Is it worth the effort or should just keep rolling along?

He definetly has some interesting guns for sale, definetly worth taking a look at if you are into collectable firearms. They have decent prices on some of his his modern pistols and WWI-WWII era guns. I just picked up a Type 99 rifle a few months back, he will move on his prices a bit.

brassdog
September 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
Now that's the news to know!:)
I think I'll be making a detour by there next time I'm going through.

Thanks

peacenik
September 20, 2008, 11:31 AM
...crime in Charlotte (http://crimeincharlotte.com) is creating big demand for guns, so these dealers figure they'll clean up on newbies who are worried about being robbed. Might want to thank your lawmakers for underfunding the penal system, so they just keep letting the thugs back out.

We're having similar problems down here in Columbia, and gun prices sure aren't going down.

SCKimberFan
September 20, 2008, 12:36 PM
I can agree with the 'crime in Charlotte'. That is why I moved south of the border. It seems that Mexican & other Central American gangs have chosen to make Charlotte their current place of abode. There are shootings almost daily and murders most every week.

jackdanson
September 20, 2008, 12:55 PM
I've got 2 stores that are within a mile of eachother, I think the competition keeps both of their prices low. Almost everything goes for a fair price/competitive with online.

ljnowell
September 20, 2008, 01:15 PM
I guess I am lucky. My ffl guy is my uncles friend. He orders me anything I want and charges me 20 bucks over cost.

espanola
September 20, 2008, 01:37 PM
@...Everyone?

Thats why I don't do markup. I order everything for anyone at cost and tack on a $20 transfer fee. I don't pay taxes to the state, make $20 guaranteed on each sale, no haggling and any customer gets THE BEST DEAL. Thats just how I run...

Ummm...Chris Plitt? I know you in real life. Ya might not want to state "I don't pay taxes to the state..." and use your real name and real hometown.
But, I dunno, that's just how I run...

Lamb of Gun
September 20, 2008, 01:52 PM
Thankfully we have decent gun stores here. The one near my home CAN be slightly overpriced at times. But otherwise they have good prices and are really helpful.

The one a little farther away (about 10 min.) has a smaller selection but better prices. It also has a weird vibe to it since it is half gun shop half arts and crafts shop. There are shelves with shotgun shells and Yankee Candles next them, or holsters right next to iron on beads for making children's artwork.

The lady there is really friendly, though she doesn't know much about firearms as the other store. She also makes a great FFL.

SCKimberFan
September 20, 2008, 01:58 PM
Ya might not want to state "I don't pay taxes to the state..." and use your real name and real hometown.

If the sales are out of state, he doesn't have to pay any sales taxes to the state.

Defensory
September 22, 2008, 01:17 AM
Posted by J Lambs:
I have always heard that Hyatt's was way overpriced as well, but I called to check the price on a Kimber Stainless UC in 9mm and they were as cheap as I could find on the net, even before shipping. The bad part about Hyatt's, to me, is the area of town and a good percentage of the clientel. I feel like I need to were kevlar on my way back to my car.

I've been in there too many times to count, and never had a problem. They're only open during daylight hours, so just be alert and observant when moving from your car to the shop and back, and you'll be fine.

If you have a CC permit, you can carry concealed in the store, but you MUST keep it concealed the entire time you're in the store. If you take it out of concealment, you have to check it at the front of the store.

charlottegunandtransfers
July 23, 2010, 11:07 PM
Hi guys, we are Charlotte Gun and Transfers LLC. Pending ATF approval Charlotte Gun and Transfers will offer a solution to some of the problems with the gun shops in Charlotte NC. We are going to be offering a unique pricing and sales strategy. First off, I will be buying my guns from Davidsonís, here is the link http://www.galleryofguns.com All their guns come with a Lifetime repair or replacement policy. Pricing will be as follows: the cost of firearm and its shipping plus $35.00 or 10% which ever is greater. Simple pricing to guarantee a great deal on a new hand gun or long gun. The only exceptions will be Firearms that are on special . Even if you choose to sell a firearm through consignment this is our pricing if it sells ($35.00min or 10% of what firearm sells for). Our Firearm Transfer fee will be $35.00 for new guns from other gun shops or $30.00 for transfers of possession to a qualified individual for a used gun. Most of our business is done online, so check out our website at http://www.charlottegunandtransfers.com for location and product listings.

MinnMooney
July 24, 2010, 12:28 AM
from Chris Plitt :
I don't pay taxes to the state

It's not nice to mess with the state......... & it's illegal!

DenaliPark
July 24, 2010, 12:40 AM
Hmm, "Bill's Gunshop & Range" in the twin cities(two locations)is right up there with the best(being worst)price gougers anywhere in America. Colts 6920s are going for $1700.00, Bushmasters last I checked were $1350.00, and even the truly junk ARs from ATI were fetching a $1,000! But hey, they'll throw in a free range pass(worth $20.00)with every gun you purchase(and they definitely don't move on price).

MagnumDweeb
July 24, 2010, 12:40 AM
You all want a little hint. Find a local FFL dealer running his operation out of his house. Ask him if he'll let you see his wholesaler's catalogues and what he charges to get the guns in.

I know a guy that charges $10 for the transfer/background check, and 10% above wholesaler listing plus sales tax. The prices compared to the local gunshops is unbelievable and you'll save a great deal of money on ammo. The guy I have used before for my Glock 20(NIB a little over $500 out the door) lets me order ammo at 10% above catalogue listing which is great for .45 ACP, .357 magnum, and 10mm.

If wasn't in the habit of buying or trading services for used guns I'd do more business with him and when I go to get my Glock 26 I'll talk to him if I get it.

We don't really need gunstores, we really only need gun ranges. I don't need vapid sales clerks who don't know squat about squat, or supposed Range Masters telling me to mutilate a S&W Model 19-4(Cut a 6" barrel to 3"). I don't need 'experts' in stores earning less than ten dollars an hour belittling my choices in guns (A Ruger P345 is good gun, not a great gun, and I got it for $200 when a gun store only offered the owner $125).

Find you kitchen FFL guys, and let the useless stores fall into nothingness, keep the ranges going and let the market vote.

charlottegunandtransfers
July 24, 2010, 08:36 AM
Hi guys, we are Charlotte Gun and Transfers LLC. Pending ATF approval Charlotte Gun and Transfers will offer a solution to some of the problems with the gun shops in Charlotte NC. We are going to be offering a unique pricing and sales strategy. First off, I will be buying my guns from Davidsonís, here is the link http://www.galleryofguns.com All their guns come with a Lifetime repair or replacement policy. Pricing will be as follows: the cost of firearm and its shipping plus $35.00 or 10% which ever is greater. Simple pricing to guarantee a great deal on a new hand gun or long gun. The only exceptions will be Firearms that are on special . Even if you choose to sell a firearm through consignment this is our pricing if it sells ($35.00min or 10% of what firearm sells for). Our Firearm Transfer fee will be $35.00 for new guns from other gun shops or $30.00 for transfers of possession to a qualified individual for a used gun. Most of our business is done online, so check out our website at http://www.charlottegunandtransfers.com for location and product listings. :)

Sam1911
July 24, 2010, 09:06 AM
This is a two-year-old thread, reopened simply to post an advertisement for a new gun shop (twice).

Sic terminus.

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