Best value bolt action .308 for under $600?


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dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 01:24 AM
As the title says...

Looking to pick up a new bolt action .308, any suggestions on brand and model that would run 600 or under before tax/shipping?

Note: Wood finish is highly preferred to black synthetic.

thanks!

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kcmarine
September 16, 2008, 01:28 AM
Not sure, but Savage and CZ are names you should look at.

Davo
September 16, 2008, 01:42 AM
What do you want to use it for? Savage pretty much dominates under 1k, IMO.

dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 01:43 AM
long range target shooting. Though the less weight the better I guess, I don't want it excessively heavy.

22"-24" bbl seems right.

Grayrock
September 16, 2008, 01:55 AM
http://ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdSpecsView?model=7110

dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 02:15 AM
Ruger looks decent.

How is the Savage 11G Hunter compared with a Remington 700?

TheGrimReaper
September 16, 2008, 02:16 AM
Stevens 200.

HorseSoldier
September 16, 2008, 02:18 AM
Mossberg has a couple models that MSRP below $600. Seems like they're well reviewed, but I have no personal experience with them.

freakshow10mm
September 16, 2008, 02:33 AM
Tikka.

ugaarguy
September 16, 2008, 02:42 AM
Remington 700 SPS Tactical has been a sweet shooter in .223 for a co-worker. There are a few accurizing tricks for them that require only a little time & labor too. With a heavy barrel Remington 700 you also have a great foundation to build on. However, I've seen the slightly more expensive Savage 10FP in .308 shoot great groups out of the box as well. Those are the two big candidates I'd be looking at.

surjimmy
September 16, 2008, 02:58 AM
Tikka T3, just laying it over a sleeping bag I put 3 shots inside a penny with factory ammo at 100 yards. The T3 sales for about $460.00

mulyhuntr
September 16, 2008, 03:50 AM
I will third the tikka t3, I have it in .243, the bolt is buttery smooth and it will shoot dime sized groups.

Sir Aardvark
September 16, 2008, 04:25 AM
Check out page 26 of CDNN's most recent catalog.

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

You can get a .308 FN Patrol Rifle in 20" or 24" Fluted Heavy Barrel with scope rings and a Hogue Pillar Bedded Stock for just over $500.00.

This is a $1,000.00 rifle!

This is about the best deal out there that I know of currently - the only catch is that they might already be sold out.

sarduy
September 16, 2008, 04:48 AM
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/howa/howa_16095.jpg

http://www.impactguns.com/store/SS-16107.html

http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/savage/sav_14603.jpg

http://www.impactguns.com/store/SS-14607.html

Rmac58
September 16, 2008, 09:35 AM
Good luck buying anything from Impact guns.

skinewmexico
September 16, 2008, 10:30 AM
You want light, and for long range target shooting. Those concepts are sort of mutually exclusive. Oh crap, I broke my rule about responding to any topic that has "best" in the title.

freakshow10mm
September 16, 2008, 11:23 AM
You can get a .308 FN Patrol Rifle in 20" or 24" Fluted Heavy Barrel with scope rings and a Hogue Pillar Bedded Stock for just over $500.00.
These are very nice rifles. I've transferred a few to California (CDNN won't ship there but refers customers to me). Have two of them in my place right now going to California.

As of last week, they still had stock left.

rangerruck
September 16, 2008, 12:12 PM
the best of the new, and cheap;
smith/wesson
marlin
stevens. all of these can be had for under 300 bucks, that smith/wesson, is the best deal. was about twice that, but they need to move. Lots of steel, lots of solid billet or forged parts, bbls made by t/c, triggers are timney.

have to throw in Mossberg, lots of innovative stuff on their new bolties...

Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
September 16, 2008, 01:22 PM
Depends - New or used?

If new, for under $600, I'd look at an upper end Savage (like the 14 Classic), or upper end Howa. A wood-stocked Rem 700 or CZ550 or Tikka T3, new, even a basic one, will probably not sneak in under $600.

Tarvis
September 16, 2008, 01:50 PM
You're going to have a limited selection on a wood stocked rifle for under $600. If I were me (which I am) I'd tell you to look at the FN PBR or a 700. A Tikka T3 wouldn't be a bad idea either. Savages are great, if they're your thing. I hear claims that Howa rifles are good, but I'm not sure if I believe them.

For me, I suppose it comes down to this: it seems like guys that shoot competition are shooting AI, Rem 700 or a custom action on their rifles as opposed to a Savage, Howa or Stevens. This would seem strange if all the "sub moa" claims are true and the Savage really is the best out of the box rifle available. Now, I don't regularly attend long range shooting competitions or anything or know a bunch of people that compete, that's just my observation as an armchair commando, so don't quote me.

dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 03:30 PM
Can anyone describe what the $200 difference would be between these two Savage models?

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86909

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=100183

What does the European classic offer?

(it mentions on the website that it is drilled and tapped. Is the Hunter model not?)

Tarvis
September 16, 2008, 03:33 PM
Well, from what I can tell the stock is different, which could be the bulk of the difference. For the best specs on a rifle, you should check the manufacturers website. Their MSRP won't be street price, but it will give you an idea of the price difference.

Edit: Read this (http://www.savagearms.com/11g.htm) and this (http://www.savagearms.com/14EuroClassic.htm).

Samgotit
September 16, 2008, 03:39 PM
Maybe a little heavy, but...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/16259

dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 03:59 PM
Yeah, maybe the European classic isn't worth another 200 dollars, at least to me, on a budget.

So, I'm a total noob to mounts and scopes on bolt action rifles...

Mechanically, how does this:


http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/valdada-heavy-duty-piece-base-savage-accu-trigger-p-926.html

fit on this:

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=86909
(savage 11G Hunter)

skinewmexico
September 16, 2008, 04:02 PM
For me, I suppose it comes down to this: it seems like guys that shoot competition are shooting AI, Rem 700 or a custom action on their rifles as opposed to a Savage, Howa or Stevens. This would seem strange if all the "sub moa" claims are true and the Savage really is the best out of the box rifle available. Now, I don't regularly attend long range shooting competitions or anything or know a bunch of people that compete, that's just my observation as an armchair commando, so don't quote me.


Ha! Quoted you! That should read AI, highly gunsmithed Rem 700s, or customs. And if you attend any F Class matches, you'll see a lot of factory Savage F Class rifles winning. In fact, 3 out of the top 5 at last years F T/R Nationals. So they're pretty competitive out of the box, if you have skills. Damn! I missed by that much..........

cbm1948
September 16, 2008, 04:51 PM
Buy the Savage you will not regret it.:)

Jason M
September 16, 2008, 04:57 PM
Check out page 26 of CDNN's most recent catalog.

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

You can get a .308 FN Patrol Rifle in 20" or 24" Fluted Heavy Barrel with scope rings and a Hogue Pillar Bedded Stock for just over $500.00.

This is a $1,000.00 rifle!

This is about the best deal out there that I know of currently - the only catch is that they might already be sold out.

I have one of these. I have put SIX different brands of ammo from Federal hunting ammo, FN milsurp, PRVI Partizan and PMC ball ammo and that rifle shot sub-moa with them all.

I don't care what rifle "deal" are you are recommended, but right now, the FN PBR XP from CDNN is the best .308 value out there right now.

-Jason

russcoh
September 16, 2008, 04:58 PM
I would point you towards the Remington 700, there's a 20" Heavy barrel version that's very accurate, can be found for around $580.00

Tarvis
September 16, 2008, 06:14 PM
And if you attend any F Class matches, you'll see a lot of factory Savage F Class rifles winning. In fact, 3 out of the top 5 at last years F T/R Nationals.
Yeah, I remembered those after I posted. By 700's I didn't mean box guns, and the F T/R isn't what everyone hoots and hollers about being the best rifle ever built. I don't know, guess my opinion isn't worth much.

skinewmexico
September 16, 2008, 06:27 PM
Not saying your opinion isn't worth anything, just saying if he's looking at F Class, the factory Savage is competitive. I'd hate to try to haul one around hunting though.

XD-40 Shooter
September 16, 2008, 07:15 PM
I second the Remington 700 SPS Tactical heavy barrel. My dad picked one of these up, slightly used, with Nikon 3-9x scope, for $500, its a sweet shooter!

Geno
September 16, 2008, 07:31 PM
+1 for the Remington 700 SPS Tactical. Don't let the "SPS" kid you. The Tactical variant has a dual-pillar bedding for the barreled action. :cool:

dodging230grainers
September 16, 2008, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I think I am gonna go with the Savage 11G Hunter, as its lightweight and a decent wood finish for $480 new.

My only question left is, will this combination of rings, mount, and scope all fit on the Savage 11G?

The rings:
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/valdada-heavy-duty-tactical-rings-p-936.html

The scope:
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/valdada-tactical-rifle-scope-p-874.html

The mount:
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/valdada-heavy-duty-piece-base-savage-accu-trigger-p-926.html

vicdotcom
September 16, 2008, 08:42 PM
long range target shooting. Though the less weight the better I guess, I don't want it excessively heavy.

22"-24" bbl seems right.

Remington Model 7 CDL sounds right up your alley.

Beautiful wood stock with satin finish. 20' bbl in .308 but 22' in magnum. Weight is about 6 1/2 lbs before scope. Local shops should have it right at 600$ MSRP is 900 but who pays full msrp??

dodging230grainers
September 17, 2008, 12:27 AM
I think I've already decided, thanks though. the Savage hunter model seems right.

Can anyone answer my question two posts up?

Funderb
September 17, 2008, 12:29 AM
long range target shooting. Though the less weight the better I guess, I don't want it excessively heavy.

22"-24" bbl seems right.

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did anyone else find this funny?

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