Thinking of buying a Saiga 12


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HK G3
September 16, 2008, 05:55 PM
Hey guys,

Currently I'm seriously considering buying a Saiga 12 shotgun. I just had a few questions that I was hoping someone could help me out with, that doesn't involve my registering to that Saiga 12 board, unless absolutely necessary :p

I see that there are currently 2 major barrel lengths available - 19" vs 24", and talk of 22" exists, but I couldn't find any for sale.

Does anyone know what the difference would be/why I would want either vs the other? And in the end, besides having a longer/shorter gun, would it really make *that* much of a difference?

Finally, the cheapest online retailer online I could find after a quick google search was "snipercountry" - is this site reputable? Something about seeing the name "sniper" in a retailer makes me cringe.

Thanks!

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Rustynuts
September 16, 2008, 06:11 PM
Get in line! Prices on these have gone crazy in the last few years. Be prepared to pay around $600 unless you get lucky. Never heard of the shop you mention. Check out Saiga-12.com forum. Barrel depends on what you want it for. Longer for hunting, short for fun/SD use as it's more maneuverable.

Here are a few places I've dealt with for Saiga and/or parts to convert (at least most of them). I'm sure there are others as well like CDNN.

http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/
http://www.fbmginc.com/
http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php
http://www.classicarms.us/
http://riflestocks.com/index2.htm
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/long_guns_saiga.aspx (never dealt with them, check the forum for reviews. I think I remember long waits.
http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/akbstparts.html
http://www.rusmilitary.com/
http://www.milsurpstuff.com/
http://dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/saiga_12.html
https://dpharms.com/index.php
http://www.saigastock.com/
https://www.gilbertsguns.com/Shotguns/Saiga
http://www.mdarms.com/Scripts/default.asp
http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm

Last but not least!
http://www.tromix.com/Welcome.htm

HK G3
September 16, 2008, 06:22 PM
Holy crap, those are a lot of websites xD Thanks for listing them!

EDIT: This was the website I was asking about: http://www.snipercountrypx.com/

Wasn't Izhmash supposed to significantly increase exportation to the US this year? Guess that hasn't come to fruition quite yet :(

My primary intention is to use it for fun, SD is a role taken up by my other guns, and unless the SHTF, I wouldn't need to use an autoloader shotgun to survive.

I do however, intend to go hunting for quail and perhaps ducks with it. Skeet/trap as well. Would a longer barrel provide a more ideal shot pattern? I'd be willing to live with a more unwieldy gun if it did.

Rustynuts
September 16, 2008, 09:29 PM
Not a shotty expert, so I'd hit up the forum I mentioned. SOmeone over there has done what you want I'm sure. You can always get a polychoke for it and dial in what you want to shoot. I'm guessing the shorter one might be balanced better for skeet/ducks and easier to swing. But again, I'd ask the people that have done it. Just got my S-12 up and running and have only had it on the range.

www.saiga-12.com

DANGERRUSS
September 17, 2008, 01:02 AM
I have a 19" and I love it. The balance is very nice..esp since I "denutered" it. I am very tempted to buy another as I have found one for the low 5's nib. I just am having a hard time buying this to leave in the box for a rainy day. I think the 19"s are the most popular model and it is not like a rifle that there would be a large difference in velocity. I feel that the handling qualities are best with the shorter tube. Buy one you will love it!

Vaarok
September 17, 2008, 04:52 PM
Saigas are made of win and impossible not to love.

Prepster
September 17, 2008, 04:59 PM
No matter what length, grab it before someone else does. The Saiga 12 is an amazing shotgun. Also, you'll love the stares you get at the range when you start popping clays with an "assault" shotgun. :evil:

machinisttx
September 17, 2008, 11:55 PM
Personally, the saiga doesn't do much for me. I have one, and have yet to find a reason to like it.

I suggest handling and shooting a couple before buying one. Also figure in that you're going to spend at least $25 each for spare magazines. Converting the gun to a pistol grip configuration and putting on another stock is probably going to cost you another $200(at least) as well.

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