How many of you see your place of business block THR?


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Taurus 66
September 17, 2008, 04:46 PM
I went on the computer where I worked and got this message:

The site you attempted to visit has been blocked by ITT's web content filter and your IP address has been logged as xx.xx.xx.xx. If you believe that this site has been blocked in error please send an email to servicecenteramericas@itt.com that explains the business case for why this site should not be blocked.

Technical details
Your request was categorized as: 'Weapons'

I had a good laugh as to their short-sighted categorization of THR. I mean "yes" there are many gun topics, but it's not about shooting everything that moves, which is likely what the powers that be are probably thinking.

How many others are blocked where they work?

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Deanimator
September 17, 2008, 04:50 PM
I'm the network administrator. I had a long talk with myself and agreed not to block THR...

DoubleTapDrew
September 17, 2008, 04:52 PM
Web filters are incredibly stupid and can't tell the difference between a site like THR and one that teaches people how to make IEDs, it just lumps them all as "weapons".

geojap
September 17, 2008, 04:53 PM
Mine does. Big multinational corporation.

Use http://www.internetproxy.com

XDKingslayer
September 17, 2008, 04:54 PM
I'm the NetAdmin also. THR blows right through the firewall...

geojap
September 17, 2008, 04:54 PM
Check that, it's http://www.internetproxy.net

Not .com.

pfc.pennington
September 17, 2008, 05:37 PM
I'm really lucky, all of our computers are on an DOD network and block most everthing( falfiles ar15 youtube ebay ect) but they must have forgot about thehighroad.:D

highorder
September 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
funny, all the proxy websites above get this:

The Web site you are trying to access has been blocked by the Barracuda Web Filter because it is in the Proxies category, access to which has been blocked by your system administrator.

If you believe this is an error or need to access this link, please contact your administrator.


THR sails right through. :)

Ed N.
September 17, 2008, 05:44 PM
One of the nice things about working for a defense contractor. Weapons are our products. Makes it darned tough to block sites with weapons content when your engineers need access to sites about explosives, fuzes, warheads, propellants, etc.

snead888
September 17, 2008, 06:50 PM
yea its blocked at my school, but thats kinda understandable, just really annoying

nplant
September 17, 2008, 06:54 PM
Mine is blocked, but I use my Ironkey flash drive's built-in Firefox browser with Secure Sessions enabled. It slows down everything a bit, but if you're doing ANY financial transactions (buying anything, banking, etc.) online, it's worth the money to get one. Just a happy by-product is that the internet filter no longer "sees" where I'm surfing, and hence, no more problem. Also, no monthly or yearly fees for a proxy service, and none of the hassles of many of the free proxy servers out there. My Ironkey goes with me everywhere now, just in case I need it, much like my knife.

scrat
September 17, 2008, 07:06 PM
They are scared of us.

Molon Labe

Josh Aston
September 17, 2008, 08:10 PM
Technically my work blocks all weapons sites. Fortunately for me there is an easy way around the firewalls.

JesseL
September 17, 2008, 08:12 PM
Yet another Network Administrator checking in.

MedWheeler
September 17, 2008, 08:16 PM
Our network blocks virtually all "special interest" sites, including, unfortunately, some profession-related ones. Discussion boards and sales/auction sites are blocked. So are sites dedicated to certain subjects, such as "vehicles" or "media" (which includes news sites.) THR would be double-blocked as both a forum, and as a site dedicated to "weapons"..

Eyesac
September 17, 2008, 08:19 PM
Nope *fingers crossed* not yet!

iamkris
September 17, 2008, 11:43 PM
Old company no. New company yes.

tigre
September 17, 2008, 11:45 PM
I'm not blocked on my University's network.

VegasOPM
September 17, 2008, 11:46 PM
The company I work for doesn't block anything. We use archery and martial arts equipment in the show, so "weapons" have to be allowed. Our Adult show uses the "Adam and Eve" catalog as a vendor...:neener:

dakuda
September 18, 2008, 12:16 AM
I never tried to get here from work, or any other site that can be classified as 'weapons'. Something out being at a school district tells me that it is blocked w/o even trying.

Plus, I don't have time to really sit at a computer to try it during the day.

Thernlund
September 18, 2008, 12:22 AM
I'm a network admin. I'm actually the top dog. The only things I block are MySpace (and other such sites), and Internet proxies.

I don't even block porn. But I block MySpace. Oh yeah I do. :evil:


-T.


EDIT:Fortunately for me there is an easy way around the firewalls.
Not if the guy in charge actually knows what the hell he's doing.

blkbrd666
September 18, 2008, 12:38 AM
Well, if I weren't a network admin, I would just pop in the Verizon Broadband card.

Steve Raacke
September 18, 2008, 01:07 AM
THR is not blocked (yet) at work. Just about everything else is. I can't see any images here. The blocking software just subsitutes a stop sign for any photos.

RancidSumo
September 18, 2008, 01:18 AM
It isn't blocked at my highschool here in Wyoming.

mbpautz762
September 18, 2008, 01:20 AM
I'm not blocked on my college campus, but am at work. strangely enough, I can get on midwayusa.com at work, but not THR :scrutiny:

ColinthePilot
September 18, 2008, 01:22 AM
Last base didn't have it blocked, and I don't have many reasons to go online at the current base. Occasionally to check the weather, but I don't even need that. I just call the weather shop and ask to have a briefing faxed over.
The thing with companies blocking sites like THR doesn't strike me as an anti-gun thing, though. I see it as a productivity thing. If all the people that work for a company are browsing their favorite forum all day and discussing their hobby of choice, they aren't working, which is what they're getting paid to do.

Tom Servo
September 18, 2008, 02:27 AM
I don't even block porn. But I block MySpace. Oh yeah I do.
Good move. After my first visit there, I felt the overwhelming urge to wash my hands :(

We don't block THR at work. Of course, we deal in guns :)

evan price
September 18, 2008, 03:14 AM
Anything that might be remotely related to weapons is blocked here at my job site. I wanted to find the address to ship my Victorinox Swiss Army knife for repairs, and that site is blocked. There are very few sites that I guess they haven't found out about that are not blocked, and I am a Moderator on Ohioans for Concealed Carry.org, that site is not blocked- then I checked my IP address usage logs and discovered another user of that forum uses the same IP adress as I use when I am at my job site- and it appears he is a sysadmin here at this company- so I think I am OK for that site!

Plus EweTube, Photobucket, any peer-to-peer sharing, any means by which data can be transferred in blocks, any sort of social sites, anything vaguely related to porn, I was even looking up a menstuation schedule to help a collegue with rhythm contraception, and that stuff is blocked as "Sexual Expression, Nudity Related".

Heck, my wife asked me to try to redeem her Pampers Points and they would not allow the Pampers site to load (You know, Pampers diapers???) No reason why, just "Access is forbidden to Adware/Spamware. Refer to XXXXX article in the employee manual." Since I don't actually work for this company (They are my company's customer) I have no idea what sort of evil the Pampers web site contains.


It even disallows Google searches that use words it does not like.

Sigh.

I honestly think that someone is monitoring my specific IP to see what I access a lot and then block it. It would Not surprise me at all.

Makes it rough when you visit a legit site, and they use adware that refers to a blocked site for a picture or something, it kills the whole page.

Blocking Photobucket was a low blow, though, and really irked me mightily.

Luckily, they have not blocked my ability to dial out on an outside line and link up to a dialup server and company VPN. At least I can get to THR and stuff that way. Although my company VPN blocks a lot of stuff too, like my online poker game, anything porn related, etc.

General Geoff
September 18, 2008, 03:19 AM
Well, if I weren't a network admin, I would just pop in the Verizon Broadband card.

Bingo. If I worked at a place with unacceptably strict internet filters, I'd invest in a personal laptop and an air card (for use on lunch breaks, of course..).

bukijin
September 18, 2008, 08:43 AM
its required reading here at work - however, i am the boss LOL

subierex
September 18, 2008, 09:18 AM
Mine blocks YouTube, social networking sites, (ahem) "sites of ill-repute", gambling, and anything booze-related. Doesn't block any gun-related sites, which is amazing to me.

edit: also blocks proxy servers.

Ala Dan
September 18, 2008, 09:49 AM
We don't block any gun related forums; but we are a sporting goods shop;
home owned, and home operated~! ;) :)

Catering too the needs of hunter's and fishermen~! :cool:

qdemn7
September 18, 2008, 10:14 AM
Mine does using Websense, almost anything related to "Weapons". All gun manufacturer or ammunition manufacturer 'sites, almost all gun related forums, and some gun blog 'sites blocked. Once upon a time, I could access THR, Alphecca and some other gun related 'sites but now they're all blocked. I really do think someone monitors to see what 'sites are visited and adds them to the blocking list. It's funny, right now I can visit Armed Polite Society, but not THR. That will probably go before too long. Oh well. This is in Texas mind you, I figured some people would have a little more sense, but I guess not.

They also block You Tube and some other streaming 'sites. I'm also a computer nerd and many tech sites have You Tube videos on their front page as a tech related story. All I see is a big fat nothing.

And no, I won't tell you where I work.

Aka Zero
September 18, 2008, 10:25 AM
All internet blocked at my work.... Well everything is intranet. So no internet at all....

blkbrd666
September 18, 2008, 10:34 AM
P.S. USB broadband aircards are available now too...in case anyone would find that useful.

Norinco982lover
September 18, 2008, 10:35 AM
My job (in a hospital) is part of a HUGE corporation with a huge IT department and we block tons of stuff. I can somehow get onto budsgunshop.com and THR but I can't get on a lot of the little sites and places that we visit that they don't like get blocked as well. They blocked craigslist and gmail the first week I was hired. After 4 months they unblocked gmail so thats a relief. A lot of the images on here are just boxes with X's inside them so if you have a pic that people like me need to see (ie selling an item) just post your pic then maybe a pic (not a link) of the manufacturer's product. As long as you label it I will love you to death. Also, we block all proxies and pretty much anything else fun:D

jcramin
September 18, 2008, 11:07 AM
I am the IT Supervisor where I work and my boss and I block certain categories in our company. We block Weapons, sex, hacking, and things like that. BUT since my boss and I need access to everything he and I are not blocked from anything.

ALSO, recently the Prez and VP of our company got into guns and have been coming to me to look stuff up for them and print things out that are gun related, since they where blcoked from it too. BUT recently we added them to a group that does not have weapons blocked.

MD_Willington
September 18, 2008, 11:16 AM
No, but we get the guilt trip... The policy is a load of crap really

Seems it is fine if some people are using it for fantasy league football money league picks and stats, but god forbid I look at this site... or any other "Non-work related"...

qdemn7
September 18, 2008, 11:29 AM
I am the IT Supervisor where I work and my boss and I block certain categories in our company. We block Weapons, sex, hacking, and things like that. BUT since my boss and I need access to everything he and I are not blocked from anything.Oh I would LOVE to hear the explanation about this type of policy. "Sex, hacking and things like that" I could understand. But explain to me just what is the rationale behind blocking gun-related websites? And WHO makes the policy decisions since obviously it isn't the President and VP? :confused:

Chuck Spears
September 18, 2008, 12:13 PM
I'm not a Network Administrator. But I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Heartless_Conservative
September 18, 2008, 12:47 PM
My university blocked THR a few days ago, it seems they unblocked it after a couple of days of email exchanges between me and the person I believe has final authority over what gets blocked or not. Except I've noticed some threads come up blocked even though most aren't (for example, the first page of this thread is blocked! but not page 2...weird).

archigos
September 18, 2008, 12:50 PM
I remember back when I was in high school - the filter blocked sites with the words "bomb" or "Hitler". It was great for doing research for US History.
I have no problems at my college or work.

But... the question is, why are employers blocking sites like THR? There's no purpose to it - the only logical answers would be to either block everything that isn't work related or block nothing.

CajunBass
September 18, 2008, 12:53 PM
The place I worked before I retired didn't block anything I really wanted to look at. Some search engines were blocked, but others would sail right through. I remember one night I tried to look up "Coca-Cola" and was blocked one way, but did a "google" and it went right through. I thought that was odd.

I've got a part time job now, and we don't have internet at all, and wouldn't have time for it if we did. Man the grocery business is REAL WORK!

Walkalong
September 18, 2008, 12:57 PM
Not mine. They block U-Tube now. If they block THR, I'll be pissed. :(

rc135
September 18, 2008, 01:43 PM
California Air National Guard blocks THR, www.smith-wessonforum.com, and pretty much any gun-related site...

stampsm
September 18, 2008, 02:03 PM
Mine does using Websense, almost anything related to "Weapons". All gun manufacturer or ammunition manufacturer 'sites, almost all gun related forums, and some gun blog 'sites blocked. Once upon a time, I could access THR, Alphecca and some other gun related 'sites but now they're all blocked. I really do think someone monitors to see what 'sites are visited and adds them to the blocking list. It's funny, right now I can visit Armed Polite Society, but not THR. That will probably go before too long. Oh well. This is in Texas mind you, I figured some people would have a little more sense, but I guess not.

They also block You Tube and some other streaming 'sites. I'm also a computer nerd and many tech sites have You Tube videos on their front page as a tech related story. All I see is a big fat nothing.

And no, I won't tell you where I work.
websense...fort worth, tx.... yet me guess... radioshack???? if it is radioshack they have so many flaws in the security. here is one. hthy block lots of sites, but ones that can use a https instead of http dont get blocked.......
so in the case of gmail they block http://www.gmail.com but not https://www.gmail.com

Mr. D
September 18, 2008, 02:34 PM
I surprised THR doesn't get blocked for porn. How many "Revolver Porn" threads are there, for instance?

~Dale

Franksterm1
September 18, 2008, 02:41 PM
We have a separate connection for web browsing.

akodo
September 18, 2008, 04:26 PM
Well, if I weren't a network admin, I would just pop in the Verizon Broadband card.

P.S. USB broadband aircards are available now too...in case anyone would find that useful.

forgive my ignorance, what are these things and how do they work?

siglite
September 18, 2008, 04:35 PM
LOL, when we first installed our webfilter, my phone started ringing off the hook. Management had dictated that "weapons" would be a blocked category.

Then my phone started ringing.

And I answered again and again, "sorry man, that's what the bosses want" while I surfed THR and DPMS through my encrypted tunnel home.

Then the owner called. "Why the hell can't i get to Remington's website?"

"Well, um, because you told me to block weapons."

"Well that's just stupid, unblock that **** now."

*clickety-click*

"Done."

and that was that.

JesseL
September 18, 2008, 04:56 PM
forgive my ignorance, what are these things and how do they work?

Devices that let your computer connect to the internet trough the cellular phone radio networks.

akodo
September 20, 2008, 08:24 PM
how much do they cost to purchase? how much to use?

Thernlund
September 20, 2008, 10:05 PM
^^^^ You can do it with a Blackberry. Other PDA phones work as well. (USB cord to the computer) So you have whatever the phone costs.

The service for data can go from $29.95/mo to $44.95/mo. That's over and above the cost of the cell service itself.


-T.

distra
September 20, 2008, 11:19 PM
Not blocked at my office, but the high school my wife works at it is blocked due to "weapons" :rolleyes: and she's the admin. Super would freak if she let it through:rolleyes:

starboard
September 21, 2008, 05:33 AM
Coming up on 20 years in software/IT, never worked at a place that blocked anything. Of course early on there was no web. Then for a time firewalling was primitive.

But lately, at least in my area, it seems companies that make a point of hiring experienced and expensive technical pros make sure to stay out of the way and let them take the initiative on most everything, and blocking parts of the net would not be tolerated.

I honestly cannot remember when someone in conversation last mentioned that something or other was blocked by their company firewall. It must have been years.

22-rimfire
September 21, 2008, 09:41 AM
Places that I have worked have not blocked anything. But they do keep track of where you go on the internet. Abuse the freedom, and you're gone.

My general suggestion is not to visit any site that would be thought to be recreation during working hours. Working hours are working hours. The rules get blurred however when folks put in a lot of time at work.

Schutzen
September 21, 2008, 10:27 AM
Guys, I think you are missing the point. Most companies block categories of web sites not because they are opposed to firearms, sports, web shopping etc; but because they are not work related. As strange as this may seem, most companies hire people with the idea they will provide a useful or productive product that can be marketed for corporate profit. I really enjoy surfing the web on gun related sites, but I do it from home. I my case it is a lot easier. I paid attention to my work on the job and retired at 55. Work when you are at work, play when you are at home; life will be much better for you.

Igloodude
September 21, 2008, 10:35 AM
Yet another network admin... :cool:

Hk91-762mm
September 21, 2008, 10:52 AM
""My university blocked THR a few days ago, it seems they unblocked it after a couple of days of email exchanges between me and the person I believe has final authority over what gets blocked or not. Except I've noticed some threads come up blocked even though most aren't (for example, the first page of this thread is blocked! but not page 2...weird)."""

I was playing with my Wifes new laptop at the College In Genesee cty Ny and I could get anything On there wy-Fi system, I found out the college gets money from the Goverment to run the library ..That makes it a public library and they cant Block anything[even por'] Check to see if your university takes Goverment mony to run the system and maby you can twist an arm with threat of lawsuit!
Im not A lawyer =But I watch them on TV all the time !!!

Werewolf
September 21, 2008, 11:29 AM
Not blocked at work but my Playstation 3 blocked THR as a weapons site.

WHOA! I didn't even know the PS3 had blocking software on it. Searched around, found the offending sw in the security section - and promptly turned it off. I'm not real happy with Sony about them not even telling you that crap is installed but at least when you find out it's there they let you turn it off.

SCKimberFan
September 21, 2008, 11:55 AM
Not mine. Not yet.

Aran
September 21, 2008, 12:13 PM
I work as a security guard in a very anti-gun family-owned manufacturing plant (I can't even leave my slide holster on my belt when I'm at work, because the union would file a complaint for "intimidation" against me) and several sets of policies would make it a Very Bad Idea to browse anything of the like, so I save it for at home.

(I use the owner's son's computer, so it's not like they likely even have it logged, but it's safer to be careful and just stick to Pandora and Wikipedia hopping while on break)

buenhec
September 21, 2008, 01:20 PM
To all Network admins, can an employee of a fortune 500 company get discovered or in trouble for use proxies to surf the net. My company lets you surf most stuff but nothing weapons related. I used to be able to get on THR but not any longer. Sometime I just do it from my Iphone. Its not as good but better than nothing right?

Aran
September 21, 2008, 01:31 PM
Yes.

If they care. (Betting they do.)

airforceteacher
September 21, 2008, 05:05 PM
DoD network. Can read, but not post.

Heartless_Conservative
September 21, 2008, 05:41 PM
""My university blocked THR a few days ago, it seems they unblocked it after a couple of days of email exchanges between me and the person I believe has final authority over what gets blocked or not. Except I've noticed some threads come up blocked even though most aren't (for example, the first page of this thread is blocked! but not page 2...weird)."""

I was playing with my Wifes new laptop at the College In Genesee cty Ny and I could get anything On there wy-Fi system, I found out the college gets money from the Goverment to run the library ..That makes it a public library and they cant Block anything[even por'] Check to see if your university takes Goverment mony to run the system and maby you can twist an arm with threat of lawsuit!
Im not A lawyer =But I watch them on TV all the time !!!

Not necessary, its completely unblocked now (well as far as know anyway). Which is really weird 'cause the last email I got from the person said they weren't gonna unblock it...well I'm complaining :)

BLC
September 21, 2008, 06:14 PM
I am blocked too.

mainebear
September 21, 2008, 08:30 PM
I own a Real Estate company. I don't have anything blocked. While an agent is waiting for a client I'm not paying them so they can watch anything they want. You see, they are not paid until they sell something. It costs me nothing and makes them very happy. Besides, were all shooters here. For some darn reason though the girls seem to be better shooters than us guys. (Maybe we just need to practice more). It's nice to have a happy crew!

SoCalShooter
September 21, 2008, 09:25 PM
Mine does also, but we have test desks that are wide open. :)

Lon371
September 21, 2008, 09:37 PM
Where I work it is all open. Nearly everyone hunts or has hunted. Several ex military and a few redneck:) Heck now and again you will see a rifle or shotgun being worked on:D

U-235
September 21, 2008, 09:37 PM
I work for a large multi-national company based in Minneapolis. Any websites related to weapons are blocked.

Stevie-Ray
September 21, 2008, 09:48 PM
I'm retired now, but mine didn't. They did The Firing Line, though. Must have simply missed THR.:D It was good too, because I kept up with "things" on my local ironman.

Taurus 66
September 22, 2008, 12:35 AM
Guys, I think you are missing the point. Most companies block categories of web sites not because they are opposed to firearms, sports, web shopping etc; but because they are not work related. As strange as this may seem, most companies hire people with the idea they will provide a useful or productive product that can be marketed for corporate profit. I really enjoy surfing the web on gun related sites, but I do it from home. I my case it is a lot easier. I paid attention to my work on the job and retired at 55. Work when you are at work, play when you are at home; life will be much better for you.

That's a valid point Schutzen, however, what if my lunch break is unpaid? This must mean I'm officially off the clock for a half hour and it should be my time to do with my break whatever I want, so long as I'm not breaking any laws or company policies.

starboard
September 22, 2008, 01:52 AM
To all Network admins, can an employee of a fortune 500 company get discovered or in trouble for use proxies to surf the net. My company lets you surf most stuff but nothing weapons related. I used to be able to get on THR but not any longer. Sometime I just do it from my Iphone. Its not as good but better than nothing right?


I'd say, if you have to ask the question, you're at the mercy of the quality and quantity of effort the admins put into implementing policies.

foghornl
September 22, 2008, 09:06 AM
Nothing blocked at my job....

But then, I am "The Network Guy" at my job....

Tully M. Pick
September 22, 2008, 09:32 AM
And yet another network admin checks in. I don't block anything at my company. I may have to start soon, what the fool things second and third shift are getting into out on the shop floor.

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