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BeltfedMG
September 17, 2008, 11:23 PM
First off New to the site, thanks for havin me. So far havent seen the nit pickin and bickering near bad as other big sites, thats nice!

Just got into reloadin and so far only done 45 acp with my dillon 650. Im wanting to do 223 and 308, mostly for use in full autos but some will be for 1/2 mile shootin in the bolt guns.

The question is, i will be using Mainly as in probably 70% Millitary brass, What all tools, gear do i need to get? I know i need a trimmer but what one is best, ecspecially for a volume shooter? plus all the other gear being the same, for volume.

Thanks in advance
Beltfed:)

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lgbloader
September 18, 2008, 12:34 AM
So far havent seen the nit pickin and bickering near bad as other big sites, thats nice!


The night's still young, Mate. LOL...


Welcome aboard, Beltfed.

Cheers.


almost forgot...

Get a Gauraud trimmer if you want the best. You'll also want a Dillon Swager, plus an RCBS Case prep center for deburr/champfer, flash hole, primer pockets and neck brushing. I would also get a good Single stage such as a Lee Classic cast, a Redding Big Boss or RCBS Rockchucker.

You can build on that.

Riss
September 18, 2008, 12:38 AM
I think any of the trimmers that you can use under power would be good. I forget which one, Lyman maybe, that you can remove the handle on the hand powered model and hook on an electric screwdriver. That alone would increase trimmed output by 3X or 4X.

Frankl03
September 18, 2008, 01:12 AM
Welcome!

I use a hand trimmer. Its a Forster Original. It does a great job and you can get an attachment for a drill/driver. Hand trimming is a little slow. I have the attachment for the drill but have not used it yet.

IMO The Forster is a great quality trimmer. I use it for 223 cases. If I could afford it I probably would have bought a power trimmer.

Frank L

Bullet
September 18, 2008, 01:20 AM
I agree with the Giraud Power Trimmer and the Dillon Super Swage 600 -

http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/content/p/9/pid/25263/catid/8/Super_Swage_600

BeltfedMG
September 18, 2008, 01:45 AM
The Giraud looks promising

Bullet
September 18, 2008, 02:09 AM
The Giraud Power Trimmer and the Dillon Super Swage 600 in action -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGYLmHvKVd0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKVc3m2D5YA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHy-Tvg4xPo&feature=related

qajaq59
September 18, 2008, 07:28 AM
I still use the Forster hand trimmer, and it does a nice job. But... if I were to buy another one, it would definitely be powered. That cranking gets old real fast.

lordgroom
September 18, 2008, 08:41 AM
Another vote for the dillon super swage. My experience with trimmers is with an RCBS w/o motor. It works fine but is slow on 1000 case. For that many I have heard great things about the giraud. One friend has the dillon press mounted trimmer that works in one of the stations. He says it works great.

lordgroom
September 18, 2008, 08:42 AM
I forgot to add... Welcome aboard!

Walkalong
September 18, 2008, 10:26 AM
So far havent seen the nit pickin and bickering near bad as other big sites, thats nice! Which is why I joined this site. :)

Welcome to THR

jmorris
September 18, 2008, 10:54 AM
For 600 yard + ammo the “old fashion” way is pretty hard to beat for bench rest accuracy.


For everything else I use a 650 setup with a carbide size die at station 1 and a Dillon trimmer on station 4 then they go to a 1050 with a bullet feeder that performs all of the additional operations including primer pocket swaging. It’s not a cheap setup but if you’re trying to keep a $20,000 belt fed full auto from being hungry, your component cost will soon surpass equipment costs, and soon the speed is free. Here’s a video of it running http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o213/jmorrismetal/?action

The Bushmaster
September 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
Here's a "nit pick"...:rolleyes:

Wow!! Look at the price on that Giraud...:what:Think I'll stay with my RCBS Case Trimmer 2. Even if it is hand cranked.

Oh...That's whinning isn't it...:D

BeltfedMG
September 18, 2008, 11:10 AM
The giraud isnt cheap.

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