Dumb question: Could someone explain STANAG scope/mounts?


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Golden Hound
September 18, 2008, 04:13 AM
I want to put a scope on an HK91 and the most common type of scope mount available is the "STANAG Claw Mount." Made by various makers, it ranges in price but the cheapest one I could find was this one (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MGR284-34.html) for 80 at Cheaper Than Dirt. Seems like a good deal.

Now, to actually put the scope on the mount. What do I need? Where do I get the "STANAG" scope rings? What sorts of scopes do these rings work with, and where can I find them? What does STANAG even mean anyway?

There are other mounts for the HK91 some of which have a rail on top. Would I be better off going with one of these?

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Golden Hound
September 18, 2008, 06:03 AM
Also if I do get the mount with the Weaver rail on it (top on this page (http://www.gunaccessories.com/militaryscopemounts/H&K/index.asp) what is a good scope I can put on the HK91 without breaking the bank? (I'm fairly new to scopes and mounts.)

stubbicatt
September 18, 2008, 07:39 AM
Couple of things.

1) If you can find a genuine HK mount, you will more likely be pleased with the quality. The generic Stanag mounts seem to vary quite a bit in the quality department. That said, I'm pretty sure that this mount http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?cPath=32_41&products_id=226 is good quality. (You will need to remove that odd rail and install rings.)

2) IOR Valdada make rings that will fit the Stanag mount. Others may too, but I know for certain that IOR does.

3) The rail on the Stanag mount if it is a "Weaver" rail is not the same as a "Picatinny" rail, and many accessories that fit the pic won't fit on the Weaver.

4) The link you provided may indeed be a good value, but I don't know for sure. Perhaps a call to the retailer and a few questions will pin it down for you.

5) This one is designed to work perfectly with your rifle and NATO ammo. http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?cPath=32_41&products_id=219

rfurtkamp
September 18, 2008, 08:26 AM
If you're going to use a claw mount, get a real one. And at that point, might as well just get the surplus scope/mount package.

For low-profile mount options, look at the B&T mounts - I tried a couple cheaper alternatives, but it was the only one durable enough to live through my HK-51s.

jburnett
September 18, 2008, 12:24 PM
STANAG is a European "screw" mount... Very similar to, let's say, an AR carry-handle mount. There is a milled trough in the base (female) and the rings have and a corresponding male end on the rings... They are attached to the base via hardened mounting bolts (as opposed to a dovetail style mount like Weaver or Picatinny). Very positive engagement but not very user-friendly. I've got an ARMS claw-mount for my MP5 that will take either STANAG rings or Weaver/Picatinny... But the OEM H&K claw mount I have on my 91 is pure STANAG...Screws only...
-J.Burnett

Golden Hound
September 18, 2008, 01:27 PM
Scope and mount combo seems like a decent deal.

The Stanag rings will fit any 30mm scope right?

If I got the mount alone, the rings, and a halfway-decent scope, that would all add up to around the price of the scope and mount combo, so I think I'll probably go with that.

marktx
September 18, 2008, 06:21 PM
What does STANAG even mean anyway?


Stanag = Standardization Agreement

It's sort of a milspec standard for NATO countries. The "M-16" mag and 5.56 cartridge are both good examples of STANAG equipment. There are lots of other things that are STANAG. If you are interested a link the the STANAG e-library is below :)

http://www.nato.int/docu/standard.htm

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