Winchester 70 XTR


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zeebandit
September 18, 2008, 02:22 PM
I've been looking at this rifle for a while. The caliber is 30-06, was made in 1978 and has iron sights. Cosmeticly it is in real good shape. The asking price is $500. Any info or thoughts will be much appreciated.

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Shawnee
September 18, 2008, 03:05 PM
Many of the earlier XTR rifles were pretty sad.

The 30/06 is by no means a rare caliber.

Personally, I wouldn't buy it for any price.


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Bullet Bob
September 18, 2008, 03:22 PM
My experience has been different; while the "post-64" "push feed" models have taken a lot of heat, I think the ones made after 1968 are just fine, often shooting better than the "pre-64" models. But, I'm no expert.

I'd offer $450.00, assuming you and I agree what real good shape means.:)

Ben Shepherd
September 18, 2008, 03:25 PM
My father has two of them. Both post 64's. Both group 3 holes touching at 100 yards if dad does his part. Not a fluke either, I've seen him do it many times over the years.

Some of them have barrels 2 inches longer than standard. Good velocity out of those. Dad has one of each. Velocity difference, depending on the individual load, runs from 50-200 fps faster in the longer barreled one.

EDIT: What this means is, with the longer barreled one and careful load development, you are knocking on the door of 300 magnum ballistics.:D

MMCSRET
September 18, 2008, 05:14 PM
I have 3 post 64's, great guns, smoother action than the pre's. 1 I customized into a 338-06, the other 2 are stock and fine shooters. Every bit as good as Remington, Ruger and the rest. In this day and age 500 is not out of line if its as you say.

JNewell
September 18, 2008, 08:44 PM
The most accurate M70s I've owned were also post-64 push actions. I like the pre-64 and the USRAC controlled feed actions better, but best results have been with the push feeds. Go figger.

jmr40
September 18, 2008, 10:25 PM
One of the most under rated rifles out there. In my area that would be a little over priced but you probably could not get a new gun of that quality for under $700.

jrfoxx
September 18, 2008, 11:19 PM
I have a model 70 XTR in 30-06 I inherited from dad. Great gun, IMHO. Looks great, shoots very well (havent been able to do a ton of testing to find its favorite ammo yet, and just started working up some handloads to test also, but is plenty accurate for hunting out to the 150yds or so I have tested it with all the factory hunting ammo I've tried), isnt too heavy, but isnt too light to make recoil unusually bad (I do use a slip on recoil pad though, not because I NEED it, but since I have one, and it was cheap, and is easy to stick on any gun in seconds, it does make it stay in the shoulder pocket better, and lessens recoil to allow longer/more comfortable practice), and is just a generally nice gun all around.

In my gun info software, I listed the mfg. date as 1980. Not sure if thats correct or not, as I know I looked up the date based on the SN, but cant be 100% I updated the date in the software based on the info, or forgot and 1980 was my guess based on memory. Either way, it is for sure somewhere in the 1980's. So, in my experiance, with my gun, I see nothing at ALL wrong with them, inspite of the whole "post "64 guns are crap, but got a little better in the 90's, but still not very good" stuff you read on the net.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/jrfoxx/WinchesterModel70full.jpg

Steve in PA
September 19, 2008, 12:29 AM
I bought and still own a 70 XTR from the USMC PX in 1979.

This rifle will still shoot under 1" groups at 100yds.

$500 doesn't sound like a good price for a rifle that old.

zeebandit
September 19, 2008, 01:32 PM
Thanks for all the replies. It looks like i'm in for a tough decision.:banghead:

Drue
September 19, 2008, 02:24 PM
I have a Model 70 XTR in .30-06 made in 1975. I shot it this morning and got 7/8" round groups for 5 shots at 100 yards. Winchester took a lot of heat for discontinuing the pre '64 models and the guns made in 1964 were pretty awful. But they cleaned up their act and by the later '60s, 1968 was mentioned above, their guns were as good as anybody else's in the price range. I bought the rifle, used, in 1981 for $200. I would pay $500 for it today.


Drue

Cougfan2
September 19, 2008, 02:59 PM
I have a '79 mod 70 XTR in .270. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Personally, I think $500 may be a little steep, but go with your gut. I think it suffers by comparison with the pre '64 rifles, but it's really unfair to compare them. Different design.

seeker_two
September 19, 2008, 03:05 PM
Offer $350 and see what happens.... :D

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