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spuscg
September 18, 2008, 04:04 PM
i joined the nra and willl be getting this magazine. how are the reviews?

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armoredman
September 18, 2008, 04:44 PM
Excellent magazine. Thank you for joining the NRA, Gun Owners of America is another great outfit to belong to!

DoubleTapDrew
September 18, 2008, 04:45 PM
I enjoy the magazine and it's free :)
Most of the articles are pretty good. There's quite a bit about old guns and a lot of legal/political articles but it's the NRA so that's kind of expected.

rioalumni05
September 18, 2008, 05:11 PM
i did the 3 month free trial thing, but decided 2 nights ago to go ahead and call and just get my membership going. i chose the american hunter magazine though. reviews on it?

Poper
September 18, 2008, 05:18 PM
Both publications are first rate. When you renew next year, you can change your magazine selection if you wish, or for a nominal amount, you can elect to receive both.

Welcome aboard!

Poper

Thumper_6119
September 18, 2008, 05:44 PM
The Armed Citizen is my favorite part of American Rifleman.

1-cavediver
September 18, 2008, 05:47 PM
Thanks for joining the NRA, we need everyones support. The American Rifleman is an excellent magazine that I have enjoyed for many years.

Cougfan2
September 18, 2008, 05:58 PM
In my opinion, their reviews are probably a little better than some of the gun rags like Guns & Ammo. As someone else said here they often have interesting articles on older and milsurp weapons that you won't often see anywhere else.

RPCVYemen
September 18, 2008, 06:36 PM
I must be the only one who thinks the reviews are really, really poor quality. Most of the time they look like marketing brochures direct from the manufacturer to you.

A lot self-aggrandizement. Lot of articles/picture of NRA dignitaries giving each other awards.

I do like the history articles, and occasionally the milsurp stuff is very interesting. They had a very well photographed article on disassembly/re-assembly of K-31s for example.

In my opinion, it's pretty much a waste of paper. I'd rather see my dues go towards more safety/education courses.

Mike

Professor Gun
September 18, 2008, 06:43 PM
In our household all of us are NRA members (Life Members) and we get the American Rifleman, American Hunter, and America's First Freedom. All are excellent and professional. America's First Freedom is oriented more to the political and philosophical aspects of our firearms rights and is an excellent read. I would tell anyone who is contemplating joining to choose your magazine on the basis of your primary interest.

Welcome to the NRA! We need more members to assist us in protecting our Second Amendment Rights.:)

Jim Watson
September 18, 2008, 07:26 PM
I am somewhat in agreement with Mike. The NRA's transition from a shooter's club to a lobbying organization was marked by a dumbing down of the publications. We HAVE to have a large well funded lobbying and publicity organization but I miss the technical stuff. And I don't give a rat's hind end about the latest camo motor scooter.

jrfoxx
September 18, 2008, 08:23 PM
As mentioned, it's not as good as it used to be, and could stand to be improved a bit, but IMHO, it's still the best "general" (as opposed to one dedicated to handloading only, rifles only, hunting only, etc) gun magazine available, compared to all the others I have read.

BikerNut
September 18, 2008, 08:38 PM
For a magazine that tries to cover a lot of ground in 120 pages -- new products, reloading/tech stuff, antique guns/history, competition, legal/political, general news -- I would give it an A+.

I like it enough to save them, so I have a 2-foot stack in the basement, and sometimes I get lost for hours flipping through back issues.

RPCVYemen
September 18, 2008, 09:11 PM
The NRA's transition from a shooter's club to a lobbying organization was marked by a dumbing down of the publications.

I remember reading at it when I was kid (early to mid 60's), and I don't remember it being quite so much a recycled sales brochure for the gun makers. Maybe it really was, and I was just a kid and didn't understand that the advertisers got to write the articles. I swear I remember a lot smaller and more interesting ads in the back of the magazine.

It would be interesting to find some of those issues I vaguely remember from the sixties and see if they are as poor as today's.

And I don't give a rat's hind end about the latest camo motor scooter.

Ain't that the truth. And every ATV reviewed is revolutionary and perfect at the same time.

Mike

jakemccoy
September 18, 2008, 10:18 PM
I like it, but I chose America's First Freedom instead. The writing on political matters is top notch and reminds me of how shallow mainstream media is.

usmarine0352_2005
September 18, 2008, 10:20 PM
I like American Rifleman and American Hunter. I'm a member of the NRA and get them both. When you do that you only pay $9.95 for a full year of American Hunter, that's not bad, less then 90 cents a month.

bandur60
September 18, 2008, 10:26 PM
I've wondered for a long time if the founders in 1871 had been able to see where their organization (and publication) would be going in the 21st century, might they have named them something other than National RIFLE Association and National RIFLEman?

Bnlife member

owlhoot
September 19, 2008, 12:54 AM
The NRA is an indispensible organization if you are a gun owner. The publications are very good. Certainly better than average. I'm glad you joined.

Nate C.
September 19, 2008, 01:05 AM
"I must be the only one who thinks the reviews are really, really poor quality. Most of the time they look like marketing brochures direct from the manufacturer to you."


Although I do thoroughly enjoy AH as well as other major firearms magazines (G&A), the reviews in all of the publications are basically puff pieces designed to advertise new products.

(+1 here on not giving a rip about reading the ATV or pickup truck reviews in these publications.)

Pipe Burn
September 19, 2008, 01:19 AM
I think the reviews are not worth the read. I never see articles in any gun magazines that will tell you that a product stinks or if it even has real flaws. Rifleman will only give glowing reviews as pretty much all the others do. If you want good reviews you have to go to forums like these online. We don't get paid and as the customer we are a bit more critical.

Jst1mr
September 19, 2008, 01:21 AM
The mag is great for keeping up with the political scene, which is critical... Actual gun reviews are much better dealt with in "Gun Test" magazine, IMO...they're not perfect, but better than most.

cliffy
September 19, 2008, 01:42 AM
American Rifleman pertains mostly to pistols and revolvers; American Hunter pertains mostly to rifles. Go figure. My son gets American Rifleman, while I opted for American Hunter, so we both get to read both magazines. I still like Predator Xtreme magazine best. cliffy

Car Knocker
September 19, 2008, 05:48 PM
In my opinion, it's pretty much a waste of paper. I'd rather see my dues go towards more safety/education courses.
Tell them not to send the magazine, then your dues will go to other uses.

moooose102
September 19, 2008, 09:46 PM
it is a great mag. i look forward to getting it each month.

Mrs. Armoredman
September 19, 2008, 09:53 PM
I love reading that magazine. It keeps me up to date on what cool guns are comming out. The armed citizen is my favorite part to read. I will re-new my membership here real soon.

Hk91-762mm
September 19, 2008, 09:55 PM
Thank you for joining!
Life member here .
I try and Give Yearly Memberships to friends who are not members -I also give memberships to kids who like to shoot and hunt.
I like the magazine -Its full of Gun rights info. and they have Lots of Military classic gun stories.
I dont much care for the GOA-Especially after listening to there members on there message board !

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/

RPCVYemen
September 19, 2008, 11:27 PM
Tell them not to send the magazine, then your dues will go to other uses.

How do I do that?

Thanks,

Mike

rswartsell
September 20, 2008, 02:25 PM
The latest issue attempts a review of the Winchester Model 70. Very recently Winchester has released a new edition of this classic that tries to recapture some of the popularity and respect given the "pre '64" Model 70's. For the uninitiated in 1964 Winchester succumbed to financial pressures creating a rifle that could more efficiently be mass produced giving up some of the inherent quality and features of the previous (and superb) version of the Model 70. They made this worse from a PR perspective by marketing the changes as improvement. No one was fooled regarding which was silk purse and which was sow's ear.

The closest this article comes to complaining is when they attribute fit and finish issues to "possibly just teething issues that come with a newly minted model", and describe that out of the box accuracy as "adequate". The rest is a mixture of technical analysis and cheerleading.

Having begun to read between the lines of these articles some time ago, and also needing to refill the hole in my collection for a 30.06 bolt (and needing to be very careful for financial reasons), I will look forward too handling a new 70 in a gun shop. I will do so with a great deal more initial cynicism than I would have if not for these subtle remarks as I'm sure the price tag will be hefty to try to cash in on the idea of a pre 64 rebirth.

I long for the American Rifleman of 30-40 years ago but all things change. I AM NOT thinking about giving up my NRA membership even though they have evolved into being PAC first, anything else second.

zoom6zoom
September 20, 2008, 05:43 PM
I like Rifleman, but could do without the truck and ATV reviews.. I can see why they would have them in Hunter, but would prefer more gun related articles in AR.

PRM
September 20, 2008, 10:25 PM
I went the Life Member route - great organization - good magazine

ChrisVV
October 15, 2008, 02:46 AM
I get the AR mag and everytime it comes I am disappointed.
Way to many ads. They are not bad though.

Golden Hound
October 15, 2008, 02:58 AM
I joined the NRA last month and I signed up to receive this magazine. I still haven't gotten it in the mail. How long does it take them to send it?

English Bob
October 15, 2008, 05:06 AM
I sometimes get one sent over by a buddy, love it as it's a good read. The reviews I've read have been pretty balanced.

plinky
October 15, 2008, 07:35 AM
The vehicle articles do nothing for me but I assume that they are paid advertising and a sad necessity. The Dope Bag reviews are some of the best short reviews you'll find anywhere. Some magazines will make excuses for a poor (or just an average) shooting rifle and show you a photo of the only three shots that landed in the same zip code. They will give only a vague description of the shooting. This is what passes for accuracy testing.

American Rifleman shoots four five shot groups with each ammo and shows you the results. Often the results are not flattering. This would be a good standard for other mags to follow.

The historical articles are among the best as well due to the NRA's great collection and knowldge.

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