Short/Youth stock on a house gun?


September 18, 2008, 08:51 PM
Is there any disadvantage to a shortened/youth stock on an 870 police set up for home defense? I don't have much shotgun experience, and would think the extra inch or so compactness would be nice. 18" barrel, no optics or anything like that. was looking at the speedfeed version, non-pistol grip.

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September 18, 2008, 08:55 PM
In my experience, PAIN.

I have a youth 870 20 gauge for the boys. They like it, but I find it painful to shoot with the shortened stock. Not fun at all.

Just my 2 cents . . . .

September 18, 2008, 09:13 PM
In my experience, PAIN.

What about it was painful? I know several people with Hogue youth stocks on their HD 870 and are very happy with how it handles.

September 18, 2008, 09:32 PM
I have cut an inch or so off of my police stock myself. I am of lesser stature and it helps a lot.

September 18, 2008, 09:48 PM
I 5'8, 190 lbs. I cut off .5 inches off my own butt. It is a pleasure to shoot, but I miss the .5 when using my smooth bore. The rifled bore is fired with my head in a different position so I can see through the scope instead of "lining" up the beads.

Dave McCracken
September 19, 2008, 06:27 AM
My recreational shotguns have LOPs about 15". I could go longer but these have the drop I need for wingshooting..

My "Serious" shotguns have the standard Remington LOP, about 14". This works well for fast close work for me, and the old Yute stock that was on the 20 gauge 870 here was usable at 13".

Re pain, usually the shorter a stock, the smaller the butt. Smaller butts and pads mean less surface area to spread out the kick. Adding a full sized pad and not trimming it will look odd, but work very well indeed.

Double Naught Spy
September 19, 2008, 08:19 AM
The shorter stocks make it a lot easier to wield around the interior of a house. As for the supposed pain, it really isn't any different if you shoot shotguns much. However if pain is a problem, invest in a Knoxx Spec Ops stock. It collapses down to being shorter than a youth stock and has the recoil absorption system (springs and pads). Plus, you can telescope the stock whenever you see fit.

September 19, 2008, 08:39 AM
Both my 870's (12ga) have the OEM youth stocks on them----handle a lot more quickly and both came with R3 pads on them.

September 19, 2008, 08:40 AM
This is my Mossberg 500 - I like the 12" LOP on the Hogue stock.

Fred Fuller
September 19, 2008, 10:24 AM
House guns here (870s) are fitted to my wife, and wear 12.5" stocks and full field length forearms. DW is 5'4".

Yr. humble scrivener is 6'3" and wears a 37" sleeve. I have no trouble using the guns that fit her and have come to prefer short stocks for 'working' shotguns. The only adjustment necessary for me was getting into the habit of putting the shooting hand thumb over on the same side of the stock as the trigger finger knuckle. That avoids having said thumb contact the shooter's nose briskly in recoil, as it would if wrapped around the stock in the usual fashion.


September 19, 2008, 10:33 AM
The one downside to a short stock on a HD shotgun is that a larger shooter will often hit themselves in the nose/lip with the firing thumb knuckle during recoil. If not expected this can be a major distraction. How important this is depends in the situation.

I use an A1 stock on my AR-15 house/yard guns. I like the shorter pull than the A2 stock, and prefer it to my tele-stocks for it's rigidity, consistent feel and lack of rattle.

Ben Shepherd
September 19, 2008, 12:05 PM
I use short stocks. I've got a deep chest and short arms. 13" LOP works well for me. The standard 14" stocks are just too long.

Zach S
September 19, 2008, 12:32 PM
I 6ft tall, and weigh in at about 155, so a long LOP would be ideal, however I just prefer short LOPs. I cut about 1.5" out of my mossberg 590 stock and I run my ARs one click out from fully collapsed.

I do have a youth model slip on limbsaver on my 590 stock though (its really cushy). I had to get something because there wasnt any way that I could have sanded the orginal pad down to fit, and I couldnt find another buttpad small enough to mount on the stock locally.

I've been meaning to get a mounted buttpad to replace it, but it works well enough. And I dont chicken wing when I shoot my 590, I tuck my arm in like I do with my AR. So, even though I didnt like the cushy pad at first, I think its got me spoiled now.

Dont have to worry about the SG fitting my wife, she wont shoot it anyway. We use an AR for HD since it fits us both, and we shoot it the most anyway.

September 19, 2008, 02:37 PM
I have a 13" LOP on my HD shotgun. It fits nice, and I didn't lose any points in trap with that mod either.

September 19, 2008, 02:56 PM
As far as pain goes, I had a youth stock on my 20ga up until last year when I stuck I proper length one on it to improve my shooting. I notice no difference in recoil between the two.

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