Winchester Ranger Problem


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azhunter122
September 20, 2008, 02:54 PM
I was testing some Win. Ranger JHP's against a pile of wet rags and noticed that the copper jacket and lead seperated towards the end. Is this a problem for self defense? Also it was in a Glock .40 S&W.

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rondog
September 20, 2008, 05:27 PM
Personally, I would think that would cause even more tissue damage and shock, and I would assume that to be a good thing. JMHO.

hotpig
September 20, 2008, 08:47 PM
Its not uncommon to get core/jacket separation with a non bonded jhp. Some consider it a good thing others consider it a failure.

the naked prophet
September 20, 2008, 08:53 PM
A non-bonded JHP may separate, but it is much more likely to do so when tested in water (or wet cloth/paper). Separation is bad because the bullet loses mass, and will not penetrate as far - the copper jacket is so light it will not do any damage by itself. It's not the end of the world. There are better bullets, but I believe the rangers work fine.

There have been some problems when shooting through glass, the copper jacket gets stuck and the rest of the bullet squeezes through, deformed, and moving much slower.

The Lone Haranguer
September 20, 2008, 11:18 PM
I was testing some Win. Ranger JHP's against a pile of wet rags and noticed that the copper jacket and lead seperated towards the end. Is this a problem for self defense?
It might be, if you get attacked by a pile of wet rags. :neener:

Seriously, I don't think this test medium is going to give you valid results.

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