[Kman]

found a patch of pot growing on private property, My families woods! :what:we have the police on the way now, but this is just a reminder to be careful, these guys can be dangerous if confronted in the area, luckily nobody was there, and we got out without incident.

[Smokey Joe]

Kman--It appears as if you Did The Right Thing. Pls keep us posted!

[koja48]

Glad you're okay. A good reminder to carry the tools necessary to defend oneself, should that unfortunate scenario arise.

[buck460XVR]

You sure it's been planted and not just growing wild? When I lived in southeastern Minnesota, wild pot was more plentiful than dandelions. It was a local joke whenever you saw a out-of-state plate on a car parked suspiciously nearby......

[dakotasin]

the stuff does grow wild, and there are some awfully large plants in some places that weren't put there on purpose or with desire...

might try some curtail or round up to try and eradicate it.

[Flyboy]

Pot, or ditchweed?

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/127955.html

A perennial story in the annals of drug war stupidity is the Drug Enforcement Administration's tally of cannabis plants destroyed under its Domestic Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program. Year after year, the figures show that nearly all of the eradicated plants are ditchweed, the feral, nonpsychoactive descendants of hemp that American farmers used to legally grow for fiber. A couple years ago, for instance, I noted that "98 percent of the 223 million or so cannabis plants 'eradicated' by American law enforcement agencies in 2005 were feral hemp." Since these plants do not contain enough THC to get anyone high, the program is a vivid illustration of how drug warriors waste taxpayer money. NORML's Paul Armentano reports that the DEA seems finally to have wised up:

How much ditchweed did police confiscate in 2007? That would be anyone's guess.

Upon referencing Table 4.38 (Number of marijuana plants eradicated and seized, arrests made, weapons seized, and value of assets seized under the Drug Enforcement Administration's Domestic Cannabis Eradication/Suppression Program, by State, 2007) in the latest version of the Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, visitors will discover that the column that previously reported on "ditchweed" seizures (in prior years' tables, it was seventh column from the left) is now conspicuously missing.

[alsaqr]

Hemp grows all over the place. A LEO and myself dried some of it years ago; his dope sniffing dog would not alert on it.

[Floppy_D]

might try some curtail or round up to try and eradicate it.

Or head to your local college campus and tell the kid with the Phish shirt about it. Your property will be spotless in a week.

[PRM]

We had an old Sheriff a few years back that always managed to get big headlines just prior to elections. Seems he always was able to find where marijuana was growing. The rest of the story is that the area where he always found it was on a bluff (not easily accessable) near land upon which hemp was grown at one time to make rope during the 40s. Seems birds or whatever had deposited seeds along the bluff. It now grows wild in these remote areas. I doubt if THC level was high at all - but we always got a good laugh at all the publicity.

[Kman]

When I was a boy and growing up in s. Minnesota I had found many hemp plants, the color is a dingy green, this stuff today was an emerald green, very bright. Growing in mounded rows and staked up with sticks to provide support. I probably would not have noticed it if it had been harvested at 6' or so but it had been allowed to grow to 10-12'. It literally dwarfed the surrounding brush and weeds. It had been cared for over a period of time, fertilizer bags, a milk jug with the top cut out to haul water from the creek nearby, it was someones project no doubt, and are they going to be pissed! The Agents carried out 26 plants some with stalks 1.5" -2" in diameter. He estimated $100K, I dunno, but they were some impressive looking plants. I looked the rest of the woods over and found nothing more. Just remember it's harvest time for stuff like this, so if you are doing some scouting for that perfect stand site, keep your eyes open for anything!!

[BIGR]

Just a few months ago they discoverd a huge pot (wacky weed)growing operation just a few mile from my house. I forget how many millions it was worth but those growers were camped out in the high mountains and were serious about it. The law thought it was some drug cartel that had come into the area. I always go armed especially in the woods. Oh yea they also busted a moonshine operation a few weeks after that. You never know what you are going to find and those people will shoot at you in a heart beat.

[Car Knocker]

Pot plantations are getting to be big business here in Utah. 3 busts in the last month have yielded almost 50,000 cultivated plants tended by illegals. People need to be observant and careful when wandering in the wilds.

[Tacbandit]

Glad it all went well, Kman...Be careful out there...

[qajaq59]

When I was a kid,(about a thousand years ago) the LEOS in Massachusetts used to pull it up out of the cracks in the P-town sidewalks on Cape Cod. I wonder if it stills grows wild there?

[kentucky_smith]

Every time I've found it, it's in a 5 gallon bucket with rabbit cage around it. Otherwise, I wouldn't know it from hog weeds.

[ArmedBear]

Stupid to do it on private property.

Here, the National Forest is a better choice.

Unless it's a pretty big patch, it's not someone "dangerous", most likely. It's a local kid who wants some weed without having to deal with a nasty-ass dealer (assuming the stuff's cultivated at all). I'd be more concerned about having a few stupid hippies tromping around and scaring away game, than about guys with machine guns.

Man, so much paranoia. Maybe some of you should lay off the weed...

Personally, I've been uninterested in the stuff. But millions of Americans smoke it recreationally, and 99% of them pose no threat to anything but nearby bulk snack foods. Haven't you met anyone who smokes pot?

[Mp7]

well , they would have only found a dozen plants if it was my land :)

There used to be very good forums for american growers on the web as well.
All the smart people always stated to stay off others private property!

If a peaceful weedsmoker just wants to grow his own and
stay out of the gangbangers-crime-scene i think it is okay.
BUT not on my or your land.

i´d have done the same as you - even if i had a plant or two around myself.


if the majority of responsible hemp-lovers AND gun-lovers would unite
you could bring your own candidate to the election IMHO.

..it´s about freedom and de-regulation after all.

[ArmedBear]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'd call the cops.

But only for one reason: if it's my property, I'd want to be on record as the first to report it. That could keep me from being a suspect. And hell, it's my property, not some stoner's.

Part of me, though, would hate to do it, because I have no desire to support the stupid "war on drugs" that saps my tax dollars, gives jobs at my expense to thugs and bureaucrats, and robs us of our civil liberties (including the "us" like me who don't use any illegal "substances" at all).

[BigEric]

Knowing nothing about growing said "weed", I was listening to a radio show when a guest talked about the non-sense of confiscating and burning of cultivated crop when "all they have to do" is introduce wild marijuana. The cultivated crop is off one sex and bred for its THC, whereas adding seeds to a wild plant can ruin the crop and have a low THC content.
I do not know the legitimacy of this, but it does intrigue me. If true would be an interesting way of ruining a crop without using jack-booted thugs, fear and intimidation, all the while allowing the stoner/growers the option to not waste their time/effort in a certain area.

[highorder]

If true would be an interesting way of ruining a crop without using jack-booted thugs, fear and intimidation,

And why would the man NOT want to use these familiar, reliable tactics?

That budget chocked full of Homeland Defence money has to be spent on something...

[Mp7]

@ Eric

that is partly true.

If u have ditchweed all over the place - male pollen will
cause seeds in the drup-hemp - spoiling the quality and
drastically reducing the harvest.

The seeded Pot is still potent - and good enuff for recreational
use of normal folks - but not commercially fit anymore.
This way the normal folks, who just want to relax can have their
lil bit of smoke - while the gangs commercial sellers will be out
of the game. Good strategy & pro liberty.

The genetic lines of those harvested seeds will develop onto
the Fire Hemp side..... and be pretty much useless within a few generations.

Passionate hobby growers will go around this and replant
pure gene-lines each spring to maintain potency, taste etc....

So overall - a way better idea to curb the problem,
than by sheer stupid expensive force.

(Or just legalize it)


(rant off!)

[hso]

ArmedBear,

West Coast pot growers just might be a little different from Central and Eastern growers. Pot patches on private property are a problem in the SE U.S. so what you're familiar with may not be our experience.

We have to contend with people coming onto our property, clearing land and then ringing the place with treble hooks on fine fishing line hung at face level, foot pits with spikes in them and pollution from their pirate commercial operations. Nothing paranoid about being informed, showing caution and being able to defend yourself on your own land.

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

ArmedBear,

West Coast pot growers just might be a little different from Central and Eastern growers. Pot patches on private property are a problem in the SE U.S. so what you're familiar with may not be our experience.

Yep, ArmedBear, many of these redneck pot growers around here would just as soon kill you as look at you, if they think you discovered their stash and are going to report it. That's how they earn a livin, and they're going to protect it.

(Or just legalize it)

Absolutely.

[ArmedBear]

Ah.

That IS different.

Sounds like... Prohibition.

Time to sell pot same as they sell beer and cigarettes, IMO. Actually, it was never time not to. The whole War on (some) Drugs is stupid.

[Art Eatman]

Let's not get off track and onto the subject of Mary Jane as your favorite girlfriend. :D:D:D

[mole]

LOL. I just watched "Reefer Madness" and then stumble onto this thread.

I would love to get my hands on some stalks that size. They would probably have made awesome bowstrings. All the hemp cordage available commerially is junk.

[MCgunner]

Is there a season on drug pushers? What's the limit? A shoulder mount might be cool. :D

I would love to get my hands on some stalks that size. They would probably have made awesome bowstrings. All the hemp cordage available commerially is junk.

Just dry the leaves, sell 'em, buy a nice compound bow or five. Cordage? ROFLMAO!

If you can get some, 2,4D is the stuff you need. Round up might work. "Knock, knock." "Who is it?" It's Dave, man, I got da stuff." "Dave? Dave's not here." ................

[Battlespace]

A brother-in-law and I found some pot during early teal season several years ago. We were floating a small stream and walking overland on curves and bends and had done well finding those little teal just setting there in quiet waters. He was walking and I was in the boat when he came running down to the shore yelling to get the &^^&&**&($%%#& out of there as he had stumbled onto someone's pot patch. We sure didn't want to risk a gunfight over a teal so called it quits.

[paintballdude902]

i was dove huntign last year and man it was the best hunting i have ever seen wave after wave were coming into a tall brush area then leaving for water

after we got our limits we decided to see what was growing that they wanted so bad...POT more correctly ditchweed not alot just 3-4 plants about 5ft tall but man those birds were hammering it

[Mp7]

When i lived in the KY, VA, TN Triangle, deep in the sticks of Appalachia
as an exchange student... my host family had a great house
with national forests starting right behind the house.....

...when squirrel season started friendly neigbors introduced
me to huntin´ ... gave me Fox Savage 16ga double and
a Dan Wesson 8" .357 as my guns for the year (:what:)
and just told me that a smartass
well-educated young man like me would easily teach himself.

They told me the 4 rules...., AND they told me not to wander
deeper into the woods than like 2 miles and not to climb too
far up those steep hills... as the Bluegrass-State has many
Rednecks... some Ex-Vietnam ... that are commercially
growing pot as their only means of income....

...stories of armed-sentrys in harvest-season and grenade-bobbytraps
:eek: reinforced that warning......

Being only 16 years of age and a european citykid
i was smart enuff to follow their advice...

( .. oh man, i wish i was there now and could go huntin´instead
of sitting in my darn office.... a wallyworld box of No.4 ... some Dip...
...*sigh*)

[Flyboy]

Paintballdude makes a good point. Hemp seeds are very attractive to birds--in fact, in the debate over some of the original Federal marijuana/hemp legislation, birdseed producers testified that banning hemp would be destructive to their industry, because the hemp seed was particularly beneficial to birds.

'Course, the charge to ban industrial (non-psychoactive) hemp was led by William Randolph Hearst, who owned timber land to be used for paper, and he didn't want competition from hemp.

Ah, money, the root of all stupid laws.

In any event, while I'd certainly turn in a pot/hemp field on my own property (for liability reasons), I'd probably just take note of one on public property and remember to go visit it come dove season. No sense letting it go to waste.

[CSA 357]

Wonder If The Deer Like It? :d

[Mp7]

having guerilla farmed myself i can assure you,
that cattle as well as deer like hemp very much.

...i once found a few lethargic cows instead
of my blooming plants.

..no giggling deer spotted... yet. :)

[BruceRDucer]

Everyone be careful. They even booby-trap their crop.

One video showed a 12 shotgun shell rigged with a trip wire released RAT trap. The wire bar on the trap was rigged with a nail, which whacked down into the primer of the shell, which was held in a piece of pipe. Very nasty stuff. Be careful if you ever run into those areas. :banghead::banghead::banghead::what::what::what:

[Group9]

"Unless it's a pretty big patch, it's not someone "dangerous", most likely. It's a local kid who wants some weed without having to deal with a nasty-ass dealer (assuming the stuff's cultivated at all). I'd be more concerned about having a few stupid hippies tromping around and scaring away game, than about guys with machine guns."

Unfortunately, until a person accidently happens upon a grow, they don't know whether the person guarding it is a happy go lucky stoner, or an armed homicidal enforcer.

[xx7grant7x]

I love this place.....

[moooose102]

hopefully, it was just some kids trying to make a big score for them selfs. if it was a serious dope peddler, he might try to seek revenge. just keep your eyes and ears open for a while.

[koja48]

Should be: Year 'round, no limit, no caliber restrictions, leave 'em where they fall. Confronted an <idiot> back home a few years back that had "enlisted" a niece as a regular "client." He couldn't speak clearly-enough through a wired jaw for the next couple months to say <boo>. Always wondered if he ever got embarrassed getting throttled by an "old man" (which is what he happened to call this old Montana red-neck cowboy at the time) . . .

[blkbrd666]

Okay, so what caliber for pot growers on your property? Sorry, couldn't resist...:D

[georgeky]

The Bluegrass state has many rednecks that grow legal crops as their only means of income too! I'm one of them. If they don't quit picking on tobacco I may be one of the others one day. Not a Nam vet but am a vet and a Ranger to boot.

[BHP FAN]

I live in the middle of California's Emerald Triangle.I ALWAYS carry in the woods.I'd never mess with any body's stuff,but there are illegals armed with pump shotguns as guards.If I go down ,it won't be without some shots fired.That said,why don't they decriminalise the stuff,and put the commercial growers out of buisness?

[koja48]

Thanks, "Art's Grammaw" . . . She's a prudent most understanding Woman . . . 'nuff said.

[frankd4]

I have two hundred acres in the Florida panhandle from time to time someone will set up shop on my land its funny somehow the sheriff seems to find them tied up but naked in the woods and their vehicles on fire I have no idea how this happens as I’m in Miami when this sort of thing happens, I think it could be big foot.

[ScottyT]

Part of me, though, would hate to do it, because I have no desire to support the stupid "war on drugs" that saps my tax dollars, gives jobs at my expense to thugs and bureaucrats, and robs us of our civil liberties (including the "us" like me who don't use any illegal "substances" at all).

+1!

The only reason I would ever call is if it was my own property. Live and let live.

Why did it take an amendment to the Constitution to ban alcohol, but not for something as harmless and ubiquitous as pot?

[ljnowell]

I have two hundred acres in the Florida panhandle from time to time someone will set up shop on my land its funny somehow the sheriff seems to find them tied up but naked in the woods and their vehicles on fire I have no idea how this happens as I’m in Miami when this sort of thing happens, I think it could be big foot.

Cmon, there is enough BS floating around on the internet, we dont need more. Its kind of funny, everyone expect the mexican cartel to be running around. If you see less than 100 plants, its not a big gang with gun runners.

[X-Rap]

A week ago they found almost 900 plants on private land just outside of town. The owner is elderly so it was done by trespassers, they had a camp set and irrigation. Sheriff said it was worth $1,000,000 I don't know why they didn't leave it there and stake it out.

[cottonmouth]

AHH!! The wild wood weed......... I've never seen our S.O. sit on a patch long enough to catch the farmer. They will just go in and pull it up. A few years back there was a goot crop growing on city owned property and it was watered by a fire plug. For some reason there wasn't much of an investigation, wonder why?

J.B.

[CSA 357]

Just Sittin There On That Sack A Seeds?:d