Storms show how stupid people are rant


September 21, 2008, 11:34 AM
I'm often reminded just how stupid people are, just how clueless they are, and just how helpless they are, by major natural disasters. I'm speaking mostly of the current hurricanes in this case.

For example, Galveston TX. The population is told in no uncertain terms "get out." Many people decide to stay. I'm actually fine with that, but if you decide to stay, freakin' prepare for it!

Before the storm I hear a reporter on NPR talking to someone who said he was not leaving. The reporter asked him what he has done to prepare, and he said "I got a few cans of tuna and a gallon of water."

"Christ on a stick what a moron" I thought. So thousands of people like this bone head decide to stay, are totally unprepared, and put their own lives in danger (which is their right), which created a huge man power drain as the National Guard, and all manner of other first responders have to put their lives in danger to go find these people and rescue them.

Others talked about all the stuff they lost. Heard one women talking about all her heirlooms lost when 3 ft of water came in her home, but everything on the second floor was fine! If you know there's a major storm surge coming (and they did) and you have enough notice (which they did) move your sh*& you don't want destroyed to the second floor! It's not rocket science...unless your house is literally ripped off it's foundation - which could happen - you will have greatly increased the probability of your stuff coming through the storm undamaged. If the water makes it all the way up to your second floor, you're screwed, but at least you tried...

If you decide to stay during a storm, be prepared! Have at least enough food, water, and supplies for a week or more for the number of people that are staying. Candles, blankets, radio, etc, etc.*

If you live in an area where a major storm is not a matter of if, but when, why would you not have all this stuff on hand at all times? Again, I am reminded how clueless and helpless people seem to have become when there's a big rush to the food stores and hardware stores and such literally the day before the storm shows up!

What are these people thinking? (a) they are simply in total denial how bad the storm might be (b) they are thinking "if it's really bad, the government will save me!" are the only two lines of thought I can come up with, and neither bode well...

Now I live in New England. We don't get hurricanes too often, but we do get major winter storms which can knock out power, burst water pipes, knock down trees, etc. I keep pretty much everything I need to stay in my house or at least a week, probably longer if I had to, without any outside help. None of this stuff is expensive or difficult to find.

A few years ago we had a major ice storm that literally brought the region to a total stop, with power down, roads closed, state of emergency declared, etc. Much of the drama and costs were emergency workers trying to get to people who had not prepared in the least for a storm they knew well in advance was coming! Me, I had food, water, candles, gas cans filled for cooking on grill, wood for fire place, etc, etc, and other then being bored silly, was perfectly fine.

Has the ability of American's to take care of themselves in basic emergencies - much less truly unexpected emergencies - all but gone? It never fails to amaze me just how clueless people are when it comes to dealing with these issues and they greatly compound the problems of storms and other disasters by being so damn stupid. Sorry, but that's how I feel about it.

I'm no survivalist, I am not some special forces type either, just a person who realizes some preparation and a little common sense goes a long way, and if you live in an area that has natural disasters (hurricanes, earth quakes, blizzards, etc, etc) which more or less covers the entire country (hint, hint) either listen to the local authorities when they tell to pack up and get the hell out of Dodge, or take steps to prepare for it. Is that too much to ask?

Rant off!

* = personally I would always add a means of self defense to that list, but you can make that judgment call for yourself.

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September 21, 2008, 11:39 AM
Good points, but probably too off topic for here.

September 21, 2008, 11:41 AM
Perhaps should be moved to OT sections or something.

Jorg Nysgerrig
September 21, 2008, 11:42 AM
Perhaps should be moved to OT sections or something.

The OT section is a different board.

September 21, 2008, 11:46 AM
Well people are stupid because the socialistic government has trained them to be that way by giving them everything their little heart desires. IMHO the government should do nothing but warn of the storm and see to it that the dead are not left to rot in the open after. After a few natural disasters it would sure clean up the gene pool.

Eric F
September 21, 2008, 11:47 AM
Pretty decent rant but its not gun/shooting related. So to help out a bit lets try this.

How is a gun going to help in a natural disaster selfdefense is good and all but a gun wont stop stroms floods or any other natural event.

So lets discuss the usses of a gun after the fact.

thats about all I can think of any one else?

September 21, 2008, 11:53 AM
Others talked about all the stuff they lost.


Many of your points are valid, and I've stated similar since we had Katrina down here.


I think you should lay off those that are talking about what they lost. When they are talking, they are probably in shock. I was alot like that right after we had a tree go through the master bedroom.

Moving stuff upstairs? Sounds great if:

1. You HAVE an upstairs. I don't.
2. Your heirlooms are small. What about a china cabinet given to you by your grandmother and is 100 years old? Wanna haul that upstairs?

The reality is that you can prepare all you want and you still can't do enough. You can get in a good position, but the chances are still good that things will happen.

But what is seriously uncool is armchair quarterbacking this aspect of natural disasters.

I really don't think that you appreciate the pre-work it takes some households to prepare for a storm. My uncle had a heart attack and died trying to get everything tied down and in place for one of our hurricanes the year before Katrina. He simply worked himself to death getting ready for a storm that missed us.

-- John

September 21, 2008, 11:58 AM
One needs to be prepared for disasters--that's a given.
You have food,water,alternative light ,heating and cooking sources.
Since very few folks tend to prepare for the worst-- guns are just as important as the rest of your preps.
At minimum--a shotgun and a handgun.
If you got it --others will want it
Firearms provide the means to protect and keep what you have worked and prepared for

September 21, 2008, 11:58 AM
Totally in agreeance with JWarren. Lay off.

Yes, it would be great if everyone who decided to stay was 110% prepared for every possible thing that could have happened, but they weren't. They tried. Were some foolish for doing so? Sure, but that's no reason to deride their efforts.

And yeah, not gun related. IBTL.

Eric F
September 21, 2008, 12:01 PM
IMHO the government should do nothing but warn of the storm and see to it that the dead are not left to rot in the open after
NO! the government has an obligation to protect the citizens. Just because you have no means of transportation does not mean you are not productive. I had an apartment for 3 years and did not have a car. I used public transportation. Would I be able to get a car rental to get away? Not guarenteed! Your statement is ill thought sir.

September 21, 2008, 12:05 PM
No a gun will not stop the natural disaster, but a gun, if you are decently skilled with it, might keep the stuff you stocked up with in prepartion in your possession. I imagine those that stayed, but did not do adequate preparation, might be real interested in the goods of those that stayed, but did prepare.

I read of a guy that bought a 3K generator to prepare for one of the hurricanes that went through Texas. It was stolen the first night he had it on. He got a license number of the truck as it left with the generator, but by the time the local LEO tracked down the truck, the guys had already sold the generator.

So guns fit in here I'm thinking simply by the need to protect what you have accumulated for protecting and surviving after the natural disaster ... assuming you survive the surge.

I thought it interesting that one of the Texas troopers is reported to have told the man that had his generator stolen he should have shot the truck driver as it was driving down the driveway to the main highway ... shoot a thief in the back ?????

I wonder if many jurisdictions, such as Texas, would provide a, 'No Bill' if one shot the thief of critical survival goods after a natural disaster.

What are your thoughts on 'armed prevention' of your goods after the natural disater and someone wants to 'Borrow' some of them ?

Personally I think lack of preparation is more a sign of lazy and lack of funds than conditioning to rely on the government.

September 21, 2008, 12:07 PM
yeah IBTL

September 21, 2008, 12:14 PM
Just curious--what does "IBTL" mean.
I see that on threads every so often and I'm stumped

September 21, 2008, 12:15 PM
Just curious--what does "IBTL" mean.

In Before The Lock.

Its a way to point out that the topic will not pass Moderator scrutiny due to a number of possible reasons. The most common here would be that the OP or its subsequent posts are not "Gun Related."

-- John

September 21, 2008, 12:16 PM
Ah--thank you--I never would have figured that out--Thanks

September 21, 2008, 12:19 PM
It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure it out. Don't feel bad.

-- John

September 21, 2008, 12:25 PM
Many valid points raised here. Yipeee IBTL. Sorry couldn't resist. LMAO.

Larry Ashcraft
September 21, 2008, 12:26 PM
Good topic for APS.

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