Question for all Northern IL people


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bartsitarski
September 21, 2008, 02:07 PM
I currently live in AZ. I have a C&R License and a concealed weapons permit. I also have a decent collection of guns including old handguns, new handguns, and the same for long guns. I just accepted a job offer to move to Illinois. My office will be in Rolling Meadows. What do I need to know.do with my guns. I know that the City of Chicago has a ban on all handguns, but, how is the rest of Cook County? How do I register the guns? I will be looking at moving to Schaumberg, Palatine, Rolling Meadows, Des Plaines, Lake Zurich, those areas. Thanks in advance for some tips.

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lysander
September 21, 2008, 02:27 PM
Well....

1) Your CCW is going to be off the table statewide.

2) Illinois does not register guns on the state level (to my knowledge). You are required to keep records of private sales.

3) To legally own firearms in Illinois you will have to apply for a FOID card. The process isn't all that taxing. You can find a great deal of information here: http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/. You will need an Illinois ID or DL to apply for a FOID. I do not know if there is a grace period, though I assume your ownership of the firearms will be acceptable under law until your residency changes. The FOID statute provides exceptions for non-residents.

4) On a general level, Chicago has banned all handgun ownership. (You know this already) This law is set to be tested (www.chicagoguncase.com).

5) Illinois is a home rule state...so many municipalities have their own regulations. Chicago, Cook County, Aurora, Evanston, etc., etc., Once you know where you will be, you had best hit up their websites to review the municipal code.

I can't speak to your requirements for your C&R.

I am not a lawyer...and I would encourage you to check my math.

Gator
September 21, 2008, 02:28 PM
Cook county has an assault weapons ban (http://www.cookctyclerk.com/html/111406orddoc.htm). However many suburbs have home rule and the county ban does not apply to them if they have their own rules; I think Des Plaines is a home rule suburb. That might be something to check into before you move, if you have anything on the banned list. Otherwise, you wil have to get an FOID "Firearms Owners Information Card", as soon as you move here. There is no registration, so you don't have to worry about that, and your C&R is still good.

If you could locate anywhere outside of Cook, you'd be better off. ;)

Blackbeard
September 21, 2008, 05:37 PM
You're less than 5 miles away from Lake County. Look for residences up there. Much more conservative than Cook County, IMO.

Marcus84
September 21, 2008, 08:03 PM
Stay In Arizona!

romma
September 21, 2008, 08:43 PM
www.handgunlaw.us might help.

Neo-Luddite
September 21, 2008, 09:08 PM
1) Stay out of Cook, Co. if you can.
2) No CCW at all---BUT a weapon can be carried unloaded and cased most places lawfully (many details on this, but you CAN travel with an unloaded weapon--even through Chicago).
3) C/R has no special restrictions or requirements--but most folks won't ship to Cook Co. NFA stuff except AOW is banned.
4) FOID card is needed for all gun owners--5 bucks and a photo/form is sent to Illinois State Police--no big deal but you MUST get one within a short time after setting up Illinois residence----you MAY have your guns in the state until you get the card and an IL driver license--no legal worry.
5) Some ammo, AP (pistol and SOME rifle) is banned, as are bolo shotgun rounds, dragon's breath, etc.).

That is about it--no big worries really.
Lots of PITA--lots of smoke--but the only 'fire' is the utter lack of CCW here and in Wis.

If I didn't have family here, I'd be in AZ---honest.

danny
September 21, 2008, 09:50 PM
Small point but a FOID is now $10.

Officers'Wife
September 21, 2008, 09:57 PM
You would be far better off to locate in one of the bedroom communities in Indiana and commute. More for the easier to bear tax rates than for your firearms. There is a good reason the natives say Jasper County (Indiana) is a long way from heaven and too ...uh... darn close to Chicago.

Selena

Mac45
September 21, 2008, 10:10 PM
As much as I like Indiana, I'd hate to drive to Rolling Meadows every day. Don't like to say it, but Lake Co. is probably your best bet.

rfurtkamp
September 21, 2008, 10:23 PM
As a gun owner, I'd never ever ever ever return to Illinois - I left in '98 and never ever looked back.

You have a carry permit, you have a life, and chances are whatever they're paying you in Illinois that's a 'raise' will more than be eaten up by taxes alone, then the COLA vs AZ.

Seriously, don't.

I want to be nowhere near a major metro area when the '08 election hits - if Obama doesn't win, do you want to be anywhere near the town that riots for sports teams that *win*?

isp2605
September 22, 2008, 08:36 AM
Small point but a FOID is now $10.
Another small point... It's now $10 for 10 yrs. It use to be $5 for 5 yrs. The end cost is the same. The issued time was extended to cut down on the administrative reissuing burden.
Here are the listing of cities with home rule who have passed municipal ordinances concerning firearms. By statute any time a municipality passes a law concerning firearms they are required to notify the ISP so it can be posted for public review. Not all of the ordinances are more restrictive than state law. Many are directed at the municipalities licensing dealers, some just copy state law, some others are more restrictive. You just have to click on the city you're interested in from the column on the right.
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/ordinances.cfm

bartsitarski
September 22, 2008, 09:51 AM
Thank you all for the help. The move is a great career move and I can't really say no to it. I am originally from Milwaukee so I know what I am getting myself into. I know that I don't want to live anywhere close to the city. I am focusing on the NW burbs.

Picard
September 22, 2008, 10:22 AM
Apply for a FOID and keep move your guns to your new home. Nobody will give you any trouble if you move to a home-ruled city. Many of those cities don't follow the Cook County gun ban, just stay out of Chicago. I don't predict anyone giving you a hard time about your firearms.

JackBurtonJr
September 22, 2008, 10:24 AM
Indiana would be great for guns but quite geographically inconvienent for the commute.

ilbob
September 22, 2008, 11:19 AM
As far as your existing guns, outside of Cook County you are OK. Lake County is generally less costly to live in than Cook County anyway. Some minor ammo restrictions as another poster mentioned.

C&R is not much different. There are waiting periods for handguns (72 hours) and long guns (24 hours) that apply for all firearms transactions, including with a dealer, C&R, or private party.

Antique and BP firearms are not exempt. If it goes bang, its a gun and has to follow all the rules. Some air guns are also considered firearms, as are TASERs.

No CC permits, but I think that may change within the next few years. There is finally a solid base of ground roots support for CC permits and that was what was always lacking in previous efforts.

Apply for the FOID card. print the app off the web site. The ISP have made some kind of rule up that you have to print the back side of the app on the back side, even though there is nothing that you have to fill in there, so make sure the back side gets printed on the back side of the form you fill in. You have to get an IL DL first, and AFAIK, they have mostly been using your DL picture for your FOID card photo even though they make you send in two pictures with your app.

Up until a few years ago, some people would have fun with their FOID card photos, dressing up with sombreros and big mustaches was a favorite. Now the ISP send back apps with such photos.

lysander
September 22, 2008, 11:21 AM
Also....Rolling Meadows is a bit far south...and a touch poorly located to live over the border in Wisconsin.

ilbob
September 22, 2008, 11:24 AM
Also....Rolling Meadows is a bit far south...and a touch poorly located to live over the border in Wisconsin.

Gun wise, WI is not a whole lot better than IL, other than the state pre-emption so there is no silliness like in Chicago/Cook County.

langenc
September 22, 2008, 12:56 PM
"Another small point... It's now $10 for 10 yrs. It use to be $5 for 5 yrs. The end cost is the same. The issued time was extended to cut down on the administrative reissuing burden."

If it is a burden why not go constitutional and eliminate?? Oh, I remember, it is for the CHILDREN.. (and the money).

TCmofo
September 22, 2008, 01:00 PM
If you keep your AZ residency, no need to get an IL FOID card

ilbob
September 22, 2008, 02:45 PM
If you keep your AZ residency, no need to get an IL FOID card
what possible benefit would there be to him to do that, even if it were legal? all that kind of advice is going to do is get him arrested.

If he were coming here to go to school, or for a short term assignment, he might be able to get away with it legally.

OTOH, there are some subtle, but not insignificant differences in the way the law treats residents with FOID cards and non-residents in regards to firearms. If he were to follow the legal advice you gave him (are you a lawyer by the way) its entirely possible he could be charged with a crime down the road for doing something that is not obviously illegal, and would not be illegal were he a resident with a FOID.

And even if he managed to escape such a FOID trap, the state of IL is very good at finding people trying to avoid state taxes by claiming residence outside the state. Are you really suggesting such a dubious scheme solely to avoid the $1 a year FOID card fee?

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