Best 45 sub compact


September 21, 2008, 10:05 PM
Looking for a 45 sub compact. Reliable and accurate. Any suggestions.

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September 22, 2008, 01:10 AM
I say Colt Defender . I have all the Colt Compacts and all have been accurate and relieable. But Defender is my #1 to go to.

September 22, 2008, 07:33 AM
Kimber Tactical Ultra II has been a great weapon for me, have had zero problems with it for 3 yrs now. Easy to conceal, easy shooter, and like me eats everything:D

September 22, 2008, 09:17 AM
Not sure if there is an answer for the "best" request, since it really depends on the individual choice/taste. I looked and tried several and decided to go with Colt New Agent. I like how it feels in my hands and the "spartan" looks of the gun.

September 22, 2008, 09:41 AM
You will get 20 replys and 18 or 19 different answers which is never really helpful.

First, determine how much money you have to spend.

Go to your local gun shop and fondle the models in that price range. Rent and shoot them if possible. There is no one size fits all answer.

The Bushmaster
September 22, 2008, 09:49 AM
Another vote for the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II...Just completed breakin on mine and I couldn't be happier about it...

September 22, 2008, 09:55 AM
My Springfield Ultra Compact has been fine AFTER installing a Full length guide rod (FLGR).

September 22, 2008, 10:26 AM
Colt Defender! Surprisingly accurate, and reliable when properly tuned. It has a good "feel", or "rythm", when firing 185 grain ammunition.

Bush Pilot
September 22, 2008, 08:36 PM
Don't overlook a Glock 30, I've got 2 and couldn't be more pleased.

September 22, 2008, 10:31 PM
Your going to get everything listed here... 1911 Ultras, Glocks, XDs. etc...

For a beater and lint gatherer, I like the Glock 30. Good reliability and torture tested. But it's going to boil down to what feels good in carry mode and what you're comfortable with, If you're not comfortable with a gun, it won't shoot well for you. Find some buddies that will let you test some out and go from there...

September 23, 2008, 12:07 AM
I'll toss my two cents in here. I did the same search a year ago, and wound up with this, a Bersa UC (Ultra-Compact) 45. It's not much bigger than my Bersa .380 but carries eight rounds of 45ACP, and it's my first de-cocker. I didn't like the idea of the de-cocker going in, but I've since decided I like it a lot. I carry it all the time in place of the .380 it replaced. It's traditional DA/SA.

The sights on mine are a white outline rear with a dot front, but other options are available. Mine came with two mags, some don't, and mags are pricey. But I'm happy as a clam with mine, and it was $450 OTD with two boxes of ammo. Customer service is good, though I haven't needed it, and don't expect to. I've got about 2,000 rounds through it, it was a little balky up until about 400 rounds, it's been 100% since them. Just something to consider, if you can find one. Distribution seems kinda spotty.


Steve 48
September 23, 2008, 12:37 PM
My Springfield Micro compact is 100% reliable and accurate too.

September 23, 2008, 07:24 PM
Another vote for the Glock 30. I have the SF version and it has pretty much replaced my M&P9c. About the same size as a G19 and 10+1 of .45.

September 23, 2008, 07:27 PM
I'd go with the Taurus Pt145. Compact size and GREAT performance. 1000+ rounds with no problems. Most people seem to hate Taurus by I've had NO problems with mine.

September 23, 2008, 07:42 PM
Glock Model 39.
It's smaller than the Glock 30/30SF.
You didn't say which .45 :neener:

September 23, 2008, 08:14 PM
I have a Colt New Agent for that. I'm lefthanded and installed a cutdown ambisafety set from Kimber that has a snubbie lever on the right side and an almost nonexistant lever on the left side (I modified both levers), added Crimson Trace and now have a lightweight Colt that rides in my front jeans pocket with the grip out. No holster and the safety is protected against me.

This setup draws fast and the red dot is zero'd. I can put every round on the dot out to 25 yds without needing to bring the pistol to an aiming position, meaning I don't need sights.

This is the quickest concealed carry system I've devised to date and I'm practicing every day. The pistol has not hiccoughed in any way in over 700 rds and it weighs exactly 30 oz. fully loaded with eight. That's exactly one ounce lighter than my Glock 19 fully loaded and the New Agent is smaller than the G19 too. (someone tell me that the Glock has 16 rounds to the Colt's eight...)

So far. it works for me!

September 24, 2008, 09:16 AM
Glock 36 or a 30SF if you want something that will work.

September 24, 2008, 09:48 AM
For me, a sub-comp .45 is a backup gun, which means I want it as simple and reliable as possible. If I'm using it, it means everyting else has already gone wrong.


September 24, 2008, 09:53 AM
Allow me to throw in something a little different:

A Smith and Wesson Chief's Special .45. Seven shots of .45 in a pretty small package. DA/SA, good sights, and a nice looking gun to boot.

It will use the same mags as the 4513, and they're not terribly expensive.

I'd also throw in a Kimber Ultra Carry. Not the series II, if at all possible. It's actually a bit more compact and thinner than the CS45.

September 24, 2008, 10:04 AM
I'd recommend one of the 3 inch Colt 1911s, either the New Agent or Defender. I've had a Defender for a couple of years and it operates perfectly. It is very flat and easy to conceal with thin grip panels.

September 24, 2008, 05:39 PM
I too really like my 3" Colt (sad I can't get a New Agent :(). The S&W 457 might also be worth a try- I like those as well.

September 24, 2008, 06:33 PM
Put me down for Glock 30.:)

September 24, 2008, 07:25 PM
PT145 Great trigger, second strike, eleven rounds of 45acp, no hammer to hang up on clothing. I added Williams fire sights to mine and it is my constant companion.

September 24, 2008, 08:12 PM
I've found my Colt New Agent ( to be reliable, accurate enough considering it's a gutter sighted gun, and so easy to carry that I forget it's there.

September 24, 2008, 08:22 PM


September 24, 2008, 09:16 PM
Add another for the Taurus PT-145. I can carry this 10+1 rounder in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster in a fair number of my cargo pants/shorts.

September 25, 2008, 12:10 PM
I have a few, but the Glock 30 is the most reliable. :)

September 26, 2008, 02:45 PM
2 more cents for the Taurus PT145. I really like mine.

September 26, 2008, 03:25 PM
I have both the Kimber Ultra and the Springfield Ultra V10. I Like them equally. I have a slight preference for the Kimber which feels like it's got a 3 lb trigger. It's very smooth. The Springfield is slightly heavier so recoil is felt less. I have complete faith in both.


September 26, 2008, 04:21 PM
Kahr PM45, nothing smaller and it works too!!!!

Big Mike
September 26, 2008, 06:20 PM
If you can go a little larger, the S&W 457 is a good choice.

September 26, 2008, 06:40 PM
Either of these....the Colt first

September 26, 2008, 08:40 PM
I'll take my HK USPc 45 over any of the 3" 1911s anyday. Just like to know it will go BOOM everytime.

December 3, 2008, 09:56 PM
At post #26 I think this makes the 19th gun choice if I counted right.
PM45 is nice if you aren't set on a 1911. One of if not thee smallest pocketable .45's, no I don't sell them but I am happy with it.

If any Colt New Agent owners would be so kind as to PM me with their experiences (considering purchase) it would be most appreciated so I don't clog this post with one gun.:D

December 3, 2008, 10:20 PM
I've shot the glock 30 and the XD45c and the glock would be better if the mag was flush with the grip. My pinky kept getting pinched between the grip and mag. Plus for me the G30's grip was a hair too short. The XD45c felt like the glock 19 in my hand. Perfect size, no fancy/funky pinky grip shenanigans.

December 4, 2008, 01:17 PM
Steve,Can you purchase Armscor 1911 .45s with Armacor written on the slide? Does Armscor have a two tone no? Thank You. Jece.

December 4, 2008, 01:30 PM
Taurus PT 145 or even a 24/7 Compact, but it's a little bigger

December 4, 2008, 01:44 PM
I'm highly partial to my two Para Ordnance P12*45s. They are excellent 1911 style guns and as the name implies...holds 12 rounds per mag, and dead-on accurate.

December 4, 2008, 03:19 PM
The Glock 36. Or, my Detonics CombatMaster. Also, the Smith 457.

I was a little disappointed that the Fourth Gen Glocks will not have a manual safety as I had sold my G36 a few weeks back thinking to replace it with a new one. Today I went and bought back the gun. That's what I think about the G36. Wickedly accurate and reliable, but not for beginners.

December 4, 2008, 09:05 PM
I like the Kahr PM45 myself. 600-700 rounds through it and no problems. Depending on the cut of my trousers, I can easily pocket carry it.

December 5, 2008, 08:48 AM
I'd go with the Taurus Pt145. Compact size and GREAT performance. 1000+ rounds with no problems. Most people seem to hate Taurus by I've had NO problems with mine.

X2. I am not Taurus fan and the PT145 is the only Taurus I own. Its been 100% reliable and more accurate than I ever expected.

December 5, 2008, 09:04 AM
While there are many great choices, I prefer the Colt New Agent or Defender. They feel great, and in part, I think it has to do with the high cut on the front strap...which seems to help me get more of a grip on the pistol. They are light and super concealable.

The Glock 30sf and the 36 are good too if you shoot factory ammo. I had a G36 and it choked on my reloads all the time and when it didn't choke the brass was consistantly dented due to the poorly supported chamber. The same reloads run through my New Agent like a sewing machine (and so does everything else).

I've had Kimbers in the past (all series I) and they were all excellent. Really there are many, many marvelous options. Good luck.

December 5, 2008, 10:11 AM


That is all.

Thaddeus Jones
December 5, 2008, 10:29 AM
S&W 457 or 4513. If you like heavier hardware, the S&W 4516. Superb compact 45's.

December 5, 2008, 10:57 AM
Yet another vote for the Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II. Favorite gun I've ever owned, fwiw.

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